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by Vito
Fri Aug 17, 2018 9:49 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Pendelum shifts away from Mormon
Replies: 36
Views: 17738

Re: Pendelum shifts away from Mormon

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by Vito
Tue Mar 13, 2018 2:31 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Big changes coming in April GC!
Replies: 51
Views: 25168

Re: Big changes coming in April GC!

He's ninety three.
by Vito
Tue Mar 13, 2018 9:46 am
Forum: Introductions
Topic: Hmmm
Replies: 18
Views: 14516

Re: Call Me Impressed

My wife is being drawn deeper to her religion as I disengage a bit more every week. Welcome xaphalanx! Do you think your wife is doing this as a direct reaction to your growing disaffection? That's a pretty common response. Yes. I do. If roles were reversed that's what I would do. Think like a TBM,...
by Vito
Tue Mar 13, 2018 9:39 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Switched off vs. Pushed out?
Replies: 19
Views: 11075

Re: Switched off vs. Pushed out?

I'm switched off and pushed out. I don't fit the social mold and problems with history and doctrine.
by Vito
Tue Mar 13, 2018 9:37 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Switched off vs. Pushed out?
Replies: 19
Views: 11075

Re: Switched off vs. Pushed out?

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by Vito
Mon Mar 12, 2018 10:11 am
Forum: Support
Topic: The pity look
Replies: 15
Views: 7758

Re: The pity look

We let our kids go or not go to events if they want to. We don't make them go. That's enough to get my kids labelled inactive, verbally not officially. Orthodox mo's don't understand "free to choose". Go figure.
by Vito
Sat Mar 10, 2018 11:14 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Is coffee evil?
Replies: 54
Views: 29874

Re: Is coffee evil?

If you mean is coffee good for you?

I dunno. Never paid it much attention

If you mean is coffee sin?
If you promised not to and you hold that promise as valid, then I'd say yes because you are not keeping your word, otherwise no.
by Vito
Sat Mar 10, 2018 11:12 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Is coffee evil?
Replies: 54
Views: 29874

Re: Is coffee evil?

My morning beverage recipe:

1 bag Yerba Mate
2 bags Celestial Seasonings Bengal Spice
16 oz Hot Water
4 oz Organic Whole Milk (optional)
1 tblsp Raw Honey

Delicious and invigorating for those TR holding NOM's
by Vito
Sat Mar 10, 2018 11:07 am
Forum: Introductions
Topic: Hmmm
Replies: 18
Views: 14516

Re: Call Me Impressed

I am intrigued by your continued spiritual growth outside of the Mormon box. I hope you will share more about that when you feel comfortable. So am I, Xaphalanx. I would love to hear more about your transformative spiritual experience you wrote of, and of your current experience of faith. Hope you ...
by Vito
Sat Mar 10, 2018 10:20 am
Forum: Introductions
Topic: Hmmm
Replies: 18
Views: 14516

Re: Call Me Impressed

Now that you are a NOM you officially have a NOM calling at church. (This goes for all you new NOMs who are still attending.) Be a friend to the lonely members, or members who don't fit the typical TBM mold. Keep an eye out for youth on the LGBT spectrum and be a safe person they can talk to. When ...
by Vito
Mon Mar 05, 2018 6:53 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: New narrative creates new vocabulary
Replies: 6
Views: 4493

Re: New narrative creates new vocabulary

Except that every official source I've seen also references Job as literal history. Same goes with everything else in genesis. I bought into that once, I got over it. I heard a rabbi talk on the Song of Solomon a few weeks ago where he describes it as the holiest allegory in Jewish thought. All Spe...
by Vito
Mon Mar 05, 2018 3:21 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: New narrative creates new vocabulary
Replies: 6
Views: 4493

Re: New narrative creates new vocabulary

Why can't we except the book of Mormon as scripture without it being real. The book of job is not about a real person. Love the parts that are good throw the rest away (song of solomon). They don't teach a third of third Nephi already anyhow.
by Vito
Mon Mar 05, 2018 3:07 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: "You are NOT an apostate!"
Replies: 23
Views: 14588

Re: "You are NOT an apostate!"

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by Vito
Fri Mar 02, 2018 3:25 pm
Forum: Introductions
Topic: Hmmm
Replies: 18
Views: 14516

Re: Call Me Impressed

I wish you were in my ward. I also attend weekly and hold a calling. I simply hope to help other people in the ward. I volunteered to be on the Scout Committee and that has been good. One of these days I will probably get asked to do something that is not going to work like Ward Mission Leader or E...
by Vito
Fri Mar 02, 2018 12:26 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Considering sending this to bishop - don't want DW to have to explain my position to him
Replies: 15
Views: 8012

Re: Considering sending this to bishop - don't want DW to have to explain my position to him

It's well written clear request, I'm not attending and don't drop by to discuss my choice. I hear how disturbed you are by things that were said and taught that were not factually accurate or left out important details. That you want to move on with your life after Mormonism and experience release a...
by Vito
Fri Mar 02, 2018 10:54 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Member made doctrines
Replies: 40
Views: 31301

Re: Member made doctrines

You have to wear white shirts to bless or pass the sacrament. While it was mentioned in a couple talks in conference, the general membership has taken this really far on their own. FWIW, here's current policy, per Handbook 2: Those who bless and pass the sacrament should dress modestly and be well ...
by Vito
Fri Mar 02, 2018 6:07 am
Forum: Introductions
Topic: Hmmm
Replies: 18
Views: 14516

Re: Call Me Impressed

I also attend church but I rarely go to any classes or meetings. (I have a calling that makes that easy.) I recently did attend a class, however, and it reminded me just how far my perspective has drifted. I also haven't been asked to speak in church in quite some time. Maybe my last talk was too u...
by Vito
Thu Mar 01, 2018 6:21 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Post Mo Metamap
Replies: 17
Views: 8375

Re: Post Mo Metamap

Nice find Red Ryder! I followed the BIC -> 1 -> 2 -> 5 -> 6 -> 5 -> 7 path, and now I feel like I've been bouncing between 5, 6, and 7 for two straight years. Some days I feel almost resigned to just staying where I am. Other days, I feel like I can't get out fast enough. I tumbled in that 5, 6, 7 ...