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by Cnsl1
Sat Apr 13, 2024 12:40 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: A New Theistic Argument
Replies: 5
Views: 116

A New Theistic Argument

Maybe God really exists. Often atheists point out that if God were real, they'd not allow the suffering of innocents and the gross mistreatment of children. It seems counter intuitive that a supreme being or creator who loves their creations would allow such things, or consent to a plan whereby only...
by Cnsl1
Fri Apr 05, 2024 12:12 am
Forum: Support
Topic: GC wish list !!!
Replies: 16
Views: 428

Re: GC wish list !!!

I think I'll wish for such a boring and uneventful conf that I don't hear anything about it from friends, family, or social media.

Just some of the same ol boring talks and oh yeah more temples.
by Cnsl1
Thu Apr 04, 2024 11:52 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: The Mormon church is looking to crack down on... garments?!
Replies: 35
Views: 724

Re: The Mormon church is looking to crack down on... garments?!

Unfortunately, sometimes garment wearing becomes a true outward expression of an inane insistence on obedience. I've seen some awful examples, as I'm sure we all have. I'm so so glad I no longer have to worry about tucking the sleeves under the sleeves, looking for longer shorts, or feeling a little...
by Cnsl1
Wed Mar 27, 2024 4:55 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: How did Nibley miss this one?
Replies: 1
Views: 156

Re: How did Nibley miss this one?

:D :lol: :lol:
by Cnsl1
Wed Mar 27, 2024 4:53 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Declining callings and talks is getting easier for me
Replies: 14
Views: 343

Re: Declining callings and talks is getting easier for me

My wife and I did not readily accept the last calling we were offered, which was something about family history, I think. I'm not against family history, so considered it, but had no interest in helping others find names for the temple. My wife had zero interest. She is still involved with music, bu...
by Cnsl1
Wed Mar 27, 2024 4:39 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Apologizing for your faith?
Replies: 9
Views: 258

Re: Apologizing for your faith?

I don't think my behavior is necessarily all that different between groups, it's more about actively trying to disassociate from Mormons if something I say ties me to them while with non believers, yet letting assumptions go that I'm still fully part of the group when I'm with Mormons. I do not beli...
by Cnsl1
Mon Mar 25, 2024 10:41 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Apologizing for your faith?
Replies: 9
Views: 258

Apologizing for your faith?

I've wondered if anyone else has had this situation. When I was a TBM, I'd encourage questions about my faith, or leave the door deliberately open for folks to ask something like, where did you learn Chinese? Then eventually I kept the door mostly closed and when something like language came up, I'd...
by Cnsl1
Mon Mar 25, 2024 9:58 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: NOM needs to be a safe place
Replies: 22
Views: 714

Re: NOM needs to be a safe place

Yes, but I should know better than to offer bait. I got thinking about it several days ago and knew I had just given him more to go off about. And then instead of ignoring his rant and taking the conversation back to church topics, I reacted to his derailment. See, I am not always so good myself at...
by Cnsl1
Sat Mar 23, 2024 12:50 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Teaching the wrong stuff
Replies: 25
Views: 864

Re: Teaching the wrong stuff

And prob should be separate thread, sorry
by Cnsl1
Sat Mar 23, 2024 12:50 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Teaching the wrong stuff
Replies: 25
Views: 864

Re: Teaching the wrong stuff

DB, kidding aside, you've given us too much to consume in one post. If and when you have time, I'd be interested in a more detailed argument of just one of those bits. Say gun ownership. Perhaps who should be allowed to own guns, what type of guns, any guns prohibited, etc.? Places or spaces guns sh...
by Cnsl1
Sat Mar 23, 2024 12:21 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Teaching the wrong stuff
Replies: 25
Views: 864

Re: Teaching the wrong stuff

I accept victory.

Thank you. Thank you very much.
by Cnsl1
Wed Mar 20, 2024 1:15 am
Forum: Support
Topic: We’re back! Thanks Captain Salty!
Replies: 13
Views: 395

Re: We’re back! Thanks Captain Salty!

Thanks to all who keep the lights on, and all who fixed the lights. Thank you very much.
by Cnsl1
Wed Mar 20, 2024 1:12 am
Forum: Support
Topic: 9 stories from those who returned to the faith
Replies: 9
Views: 362

Re: 9 stories from those who returned to the faith

What would be more interesting, to me at least, are 9 stories of people who don't believe some or all of the things, how they reconcile not believing some of the important things that most Mormons believe, and still stay in the faith. I think it would go farther for the church to promote that it's o...
by Cnsl1
Wed Mar 20, 2024 12:57 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Teaching the wrong stuff
Replies: 25
Views: 864

Re: Teaching the wrong stuff

I do agree that it kinda seems like society swings back and forth left to right, sorta like a pendulum and I used to think that was probably good because in the long run it kept us kinda down the middle of the road. It sure seems to me that lately this pendulum is swinging wildly back and forth quic...
by Cnsl1
Wed Mar 20, 2024 12:46 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Teaching the wrong stuff
Replies: 25
Views: 864

Re: Teaching the wrong stuff

Good lord, Dirty Bird. Half of what you say makes you sound completely full of shit, and most of the other half of what you say makes you sound completely uninformed and ignorant, but thankfully a little bit of what you say makes you sound like a decent human being with a modicum of intelligence. Th...
by Cnsl1
Sun Feb 18, 2024 4:31 pm
Forum: The Coffee Shop
Topic: Sunday post church and post football
Replies: 1
Views: 153

Sunday post church and post football

Sleep in. Relax. Eat breakfast. Work out. Relax some more. Watch some television. Play some guitar. Wash some dishes. Avoid some work that I know will still be patiently waiting for me tomorrow. Feeling very fortunate. Feeling very blessed and very lucky. Understanding that finding the gratitude is ...
by Cnsl1
Sun Jan 28, 2024 10:32 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Communication skills
Replies: 61
Views: 3651

Re: Communication skills

Reminds me of the Mehrabian Study in the 70s, Alas. When communicating emotionality, it's what... 52% body language, 47% tone, and 7% the actual words? I'm sure I have the percentages off slightly, but that's the gist. This study has been misunderstood quite a bit, but is particularly applicable to ...
by Cnsl1
Sun Jan 28, 2024 10:17 am
Forum: Support
Topic: How do you define Mormonism?
Replies: 54
Views: 5271

Re: How do you define Mormonism?

Years later, the man is completely out of the picture and the kid seems to be doing ok.
by Cnsl1
Sun Jan 28, 2024 10:16 am
Forum: Support
Topic: How do you define Mormonism?
Replies: 54
Views: 5271

Re: How do you define Mormonism?

Angel, you said members won't go outside the box to help a child? I did. When I was still a TBM I observed a man physically abusing a child alone in a classroom during sacrament mtg. I got in his face and told him to stop immediately. I told him he knew that was wrong. He didn't argue. I called CPS....
by Cnsl1
Fri Jan 26, 2024 12:39 am
Forum: Support
Topic: How do you define Mormonism?
Replies: 54
Views: 5271

Re: How do you define Mormonism?

My heart aches for anyone abused. When I say the church is behind.. i mean lags behind the science, the data, the social understanding how to deal and address and treat the victims and the oppressed and those who are a little different than the norm. It isn't everyone in the church, but because the ...