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by Cnsl1
Wed Oct 16, 2024 9:03 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Respect
Replies: 14
Views: 7850

Re: Respect

Is it just me, or do Mormon leaders seem to demand absolute respect for themselves and their belief system while being the least likely to extend a similar degree of respect to others? I know everyone has their own church experience. Growing up, mine was mostly pretty good overall. Always some odd ...
by Cnsl1
Wed Oct 16, 2024 8:55 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: BoM "in a different realm"
Replies: 17
Views: 4572

Re: BoM "in a different realm"

I propose we take Oaks up on his 1993 suggestion for a continuance, and to take it up again after his hung jury of 1993. Since that time, we've obtained a good deal of additional evidence, particularly DNA, which we know has both overturned and solidified a great number of legal cases. So, yes, Mr ...
by Cnsl1
Mon Oct 14, 2024 12:14 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Praise to the Man! (Cap'n Salty)
Replies: 17
Views: 5263

Re: Praise to the Man! (Cap'n Salty)

Muchos Gracias. Captain Salty for President! I missed this place. I didn't know what to do on General Conference Sunday without Mopag's hosted live commentary. Of course I didn't watch Conference. DW didn't turn it on either. It was a good day. Today is good too. NOM has been resurrected. And, after ...
by Cnsl1
Thu Aug 29, 2024 2:54 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Russell's Death Spiral
Replies: 30
Views: 24784

Re: Russell's Death Spiral

Again, interesting that the trans policy comes when Nelson may be incapacitated and maybe Oaks is again pressing his agenda. I do not wish to see the First Presidency indulging its hatred at the expense of the commandment to love the others. Why must the Brethren be consumed with hatred? Well ...
by Cnsl1
Wed Aug 28, 2024 3:27 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Russell's Death Spiral
Replies: 30
Views: 24784

Re: Russell's Death Spiral

I remember seeing Monson speak live at an event in 2010 when I was mostly TBM. He did not connect his points, rambled, and let slip some old man bigotry/racism common to his generation. I wonder if by 2015 he had any clue to what was going on and that maybe Oaks pushed through the exclusion policy ...
by Cnsl1
Tue Aug 27, 2024 10:41 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: The "Conscience" of the Rodeo.
Replies: 5
Views: 4097

Re: The "Conscience" of the Rodeo.

I've been to many rodeos in my life and have had relatives compete in them at just about every level--amateur to professional. I've found that the announcers almost always sound the same and almost always say the same things. They all seem to have very comforting voices. Which might be a good thing ...
by Cnsl1
Mon Aug 26, 2024 12:27 am
Forum: Support
Topic: LDS Guesstimates
Replies: 18
Views: 10959

Re: LDS Guesstimates

How many Mormons does it take to change a lightbulb? One super righteous Elder to preside, one wife to change the bulb, and thirty-eight sister-wives to be barefoot and in the kitchen. I was thinking along the lines of 17 million. One to change the lightbulb, and 16,999,999 to claim that the bulb ...
by Cnsl1
Sun Aug 04, 2024 9:24 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Cosplay Pioneers
Replies: 13
Views: 12002

Re: Cosplay Pioneers

My kids who participated in the treks didn't really enjoy it and felt the adults involved tried to create ersatz spiritual experiences. One daughter said she was happy the heavy flour sack baby "died" so they didn't have to carry it anymore. Her practicality outweighed her ability to pretend, I ...
by Cnsl1
Mon Jul 15, 2024 7:06 pm
Forum: The Coffee Shop
Topic: Keeping up with Trump
Replies: 1089
Views: 5286812

Re: Keeping up with Trump

Nah, you got it all wrong, SN. The folks who really really hate Trump don't own guns and wouldn't shoot anyone. Lol I think the feller who took the potshots was a republigun. As far as I've heard, there's no identified motive. I'm glad he was not successful. As much as I dislike Trump, I do not wish ...
by Cnsl1
Mon Jul 15, 2024 6:58 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: My Big Plan for Eternity
Replies: 6
Views: 7243

Re: My Big Plan for Eternity

MHGA

Make Heaven Great Again
by Cnsl1
Sun Jun 30, 2024 10:32 am
Forum: Support
Topic: The Road not taken. by Robert Frost.
Replies: 5
Views: 4115

Re: The Road not taken. by Robert Frost.

Amen, brother.

I grew up with a poetry and book living mother who read me classic poetry from the likes of Eugene Field, Frost, Kipling, Tennison, and Longfellow. Good stuff.
by Cnsl1
Sun Jun 30, 2024 5:43 am
Forum: The Coffee Shop
Topic: What happened to Church Sports?
Replies: 3
Views: 4181

Re: What happened to Church Sports?

I played a lot of church softball from the 70's continuing into the mid to late 90's. I don't see or hear of it going on anymore. I played some church basketball in those same years but it didn't seem to be as big. In my current stake, where I've been for 20+years, I was told that a previous stake ...
by Cnsl1
Mon Jun 17, 2024 9:12 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Respect
Replies: 14
Views: 7850

Re: Respect

And it was my experience when I was in local leadership positions, whenever I or anyone had a truly good novel idea that would actually help people but was a bit outside the box, the idea never became action, as anything outside the box needed to be floated up the chain. I once sat in a meeting with ...
by Cnsl1
Mon Jun 17, 2024 8:58 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Happy Father's Day NOM Dads!
Replies: 4
Views: 4209

Re: Happy Father's Day NOM Dads!

My wife had to play piano for the singing children, so I accompanied her to sac mtg so she didn't have sit by herself. It wasn't terrible and I got the token chocolate chip cookie handed out to the dads following the meeting. I've now attended sac meeting on Christmas, Easter, Mother's Day and ...
by Cnsl1
Sun Jun 16, 2024 3:27 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Respect
Replies: 14
Views: 7850

Re: Respect

In their minds... Even though everyone is entitled to personal revelation, I'm entitled to that plus revelation relevant to lead everyone within my stewardship. The more sheep in my fold, the greater the stewardship. I've been directly taught that God works through me to guide and direct you. Ergo ...
by Cnsl1
Sat May 04, 2024 8:55 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: How to respond to believing spouse?
Replies: 28
Views: 15541

Re: How to respond to believing spouse?

Good thoughts. I baptized all my kids but the last one was dunked a bit before I no longer believed. It was not an issue. Fast forward, all my kids are adults and are all out. My wife is not completely out but not 100% in either. Our oldest child's oldest child was baptized almost 3 years ago and at ...
by Cnsl1
Mon Apr 29, 2024 12:58 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Temples, temples everywhere...
Replies: 8
Views: 6699

Re: Temples, temples everywhere...

In my opinion, announcing temples creates the illusion of great growth, spends money that needs to be spent, and helps keeps the faithful faithful. Meanwhile, like has been stated, stakes are shrinking and members are leaving. Our stake, that a few years ago inexplicably added wards and made them ...
by Cnsl1
Mon Apr 15, 2024 11:30 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: A New Theistic Argument
Replies: 15
Views: 19386

Re: A New Theistic Argument

But as Oaks said, let's not be so zealous to obey the 2nd great commandment that we forget the first. Don't love your neighbor TOO much. (And this is one reason I think Oaks is full of himself and full of shit. I'm sorry. Let me back up and apologize. Let me reserve judgment. Let me give leaders ...
by Cnsl1
Sat Apr 13, 2024 12:40 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: A New Theistic Argument
Replies: 15
Views: 19386

A New Theistic Argument

Maybe God really exists. Often atheists point out that if God were real, they'd not allow the suffering of innocents and the gross mistreatment of children. It seems counter intuitive that a supreme being or creator who loves their creations would allow such things, or consent to a plan whereby only ...