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by alas
Mon Jun 24, 2019 5:53 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Second anointing and the priesthood
Replies: 5
Views: 191

Re: Second anointing and the priesthood

Most people never pay attention to the actual wording of the female endowment. Feminist Mormon housewives had a write up explaining the wording of the endowment, pre most recent changes. Look up “Mormon Priestess” on Feminist Mormon Housewives and read the “long version” that uses actual temple lang...
by alas
Mon Jun 24, 2019 3:49 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Second anointing and the priesthood
Replies: 5
Views: 191

Re: Second anointing and the priesthood

In the temple endowment a women is told that she will be a priestess “unto” her husband. So, I suspect that in the second anointing, a wife is ordained to the priesthood of her husband as he becomes her God. This is why women cannot be ordained to the priesthood of Jesus Christ. Because he (Jesus) i...
by alas
Sun Jun 09, 2019 9:02 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: I think I want to be cremated...
Replies: 27
Views: 489

Re: I think I want to be cremated...

There IS no policy. Case in point, my father was temple endowed, then ex-ed, then Re-baptized. We didn’t know if he had had his temple blessings “restored” or not. We didn’t even know if we are supposedly sealed to him or not. We asked his bishop and the bishop shrugged. WTF? Isn’t that on his churc...
by alas
Fri Jun 07, 2019 10:53 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Near Death
Replies: 19
Views: 865

Re: Near Death

In my reading I've come across secondary statements that they've identified the part of the brain that locates the self in the body. These statements don't identify the region by name. I've not been able to Google it up. It seems that the trauma stories of Alas are in the same vein as the burn acco...
by alas
Fri Jun 07, 2019 10:25 am
Forum: Support
Topic: New Wendy Nelson video is giving me a serious case of the heebie jeebies
Replies: 36
Views: 1066

Re: New Wendy Nelson video is giving me a serious case of the heebie jeebiesn

I would be interested in how you rate Sam Young? Is he the same as Wendy or Kate? Or is he a very different category because he is male? Or maybe because you understand his soap box and don’t understand Kate Kelly’s? Because I would put Kate in a very different category than Wendy who married power...
by alas
Thu Jun 06, 2019 12:26 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: New Wendy Nelson video is giving me a serious case of the heebie jeebies
Replies: 36
Views: 1066

Re: New Wendy Nelson video is giving me a serious case of the heebie jeebies

She isn't using her position to make life any better for other women in the Church. She is making it worse with her pharisaical brand of rigidly conformist Mormonism. She is an ironic figure in Mormonism - she has carved out a position for herself to wield more power than any woman that has come be...
by alas
Thu Jun 06, 2019 9:01 am
Forum: Support
Topic: New Wendy Nelson video is giving me a serious case of the heebie jeebies
Replies: 36
Views: 1066

Re: New Wendy Nelson video is giving me a serious case of the heebie jeebies

We need Kate Kelly and Julie Rowe to get angry enough to come back and say enough is enough and lead Ordain Women by Julie saying, “I have had a vision that Our Sister Kate is the new Prophet of the *second half* of the restoration. Joseph restored the men’s half and now we need the women’s church ...
by alas
Thu Jun 06, 2019 8:53 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Is NOM really "middle way" to any extent anymore?
Replies: 57
Views: 1715

Re: Is NOM really "middle way" to any extent anymore?

What’s the point if it still isn’t what it claims to be? No amount of change can compensate for the evidence that Joseph Smith made it all up! It was never true. It will never be true. Doesn't matter if the foundational claims are bogus. The Church still exists, is a money-making entity, and has th...
by alas
Thu Jun 06, 2019 8:01 am
Forum: Support
Topic: New Wendy Nelson video is giving me a serious case of the heebie jeebies
Replies: 36
Views: 1066

Re: New Wendy Nelson video is giving me a serious case of the heebie jeebies

Single TBMs are stuck in a sick, dark world. I don't fault Aunt Wendy for getting out of that. I'm with RR. I like her. But I like her because she's kind of terrifyingly fascinating. So let’s celebrate this deviation from the normal Mormon misogyny and continue to speculate how long it takes her to...
by alas
Fri May 31, 2019 12:31 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: McKenna Denson Bonfire
Replies: 16
Views: 874

Re: McKenna Denson Bonfire

McKenna’s crazy behavior has nothing to do with whether or not Joseph Bishop is guilty. Rather than proving him innocent, it is actually more proof of his guilt. I worked as a counselor with women who had been sexually abused and there was lots of crazy behavior, sexual acting out, illegal stuff, d...
by alas
Fri May 31, 2019 12:15 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Lively discussion for NBI: Fighting for Jesus; where do we cross the line?
Replies: 27
Views: 633

Re: Lively discussion for NBI: Fighting for Jesus; where do we cross the line?

Angel, I too am a fan of the NT Jesus, the one in the four gospels. However, this is something I have sincerely struggled with - NT Jesus did not refute or disavow OT Jehovah. Saying “The Law of Moses is fulfilled in me” is not the same as saying “yeah all that stuff in the OT was really messed up,...
by alas
Fri May 31, 2019 12:07 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Is NOM really "middle way" to any extent anymore?
Replies: 57
Views: 1715

Re: Is NOM really "middle way" to any extent anymore?

NOM is a forum of thoughtful people who no longer believe in the truth claims of the mormon church, but still have the mormon church on their mind for their own reasons; in many cases those reasons are a believing spouse. I want to see the Church succeed because I think it can still be a source of ...
by alas
Thu May 30, 2019 8:51 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Lively discussion for NBI: Fighting for Jesus; where do we cross the line?
Replies: 27
Views: 633

Re: Lively discussion for NBI: Fighting for Jesus; where do we cross the line?

Switching sides, one of my social work professors pounded in a point about all organizations. They will do what they need to do to survive. He went through several organizations and showed how survival of the organization was a higher priority than ANY thing else. Take March of Dimes. Well polio got...
by alas
Wed May 29, 2019 4:48 pm
Forum: Mixed Faith Relationships
Topic: My parental units--is a visit worth it?
Replies: 11
Views: 357

Re: My parental units--is a visit worth it?

When I had my first baby, well there was no way my mother could fly to Berlin Germany, but as is traditional with mothers, she wanted to come “help” after my second baby. I am sorry, Mom, but it was so much more stress and trouble than the help was worth. That was the last time I allowed someone in ...
by alas
Wed May 29, 2019 4:27 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Lively discussion for NBI: Fighting for Jesus; where do we cross the line?
Replies: 27
Views: 633

Re: Lively discussion for NBI: Fighting for Jesus; where do we cross the line?

Hmmmm, since I am quoted as being on one side in the original post, would it be fair for me to switch sides? There is the belief that anything God does or orders is moral, but since I don’t believe that I guess I would have a hard time arguing that position. I am one who believes God is moral, and i...
by alas
Wed May 29, 2019 9:15 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: McKenna Denson Bonfire
Replies: 16
Views: 874

Re: McKenna Denson Bonfire

Ahhh....this is sad. McKenna is struggling. I feel concern for her because I believe she is a victim. However, I confess I had hoped she would sock it to the LDS church over this. I feel anger at the LDS justification of using satanic tactics to fight the war, feeling justified hypocritically becau...
by alas
Tue May 28, 2019 2:34 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: RMN meets with NZ prime minister
Replies: 27
Views: 939

Re: RMN meets with NZ prime minister

moksha wrote:
Sun May 26, 2019 1:35 am
Random wrote:
Sat May 25, 2019 3:17 pm
She does have a position. A new one. I don't recall what it is, but I recall the online discussion that mentioned it (can't tell you which online discussion; sorry that I'm not remembering the important stuff).
Royal consort.
Third wife? The lesbian lover of his second wife? Polyamory?
by alas
Tue May 28, 2019 2:31 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: McKenna Denson Bonfire
Replies: 16
Views: 874

Re: McKenna Denson Bonfire

McKenna’s crazy behavior has nothing to do with whether or not Joseph Bishop is guilty. Rather than proving him innocent, it is actually more proof of his guilt. I worked as a counselor with women who had been sexually abused and there was lots of crazy behavior, sexual acting out, illegal stuff, dr...
by alas
Sat May 25, 2019 10:23 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Is NOM really "middle way" to any extent anymore?
Replies: 57
Views: 1715

Re: Is NOM really "middle way" to any extent anymore?

The middle way does not exist because the church closed it. I was a middle way Mormon for about 40 years. But that way of being in the church because you want to be, even if you don’t believe ALL of it, has been closed off. The church wants you church broke or out. It doesn’t want to waste time wit...
by alas
Fri May 24, 2019 4:49 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Is NOM really "middle way" to any extent anymore?
Replies: 57
Views: 1715

Re: Is NOM really "middle way" to any extent anymore?

I think when NOM.1 was started, there honestly was a “middle way” in that partial believing members could stay active, under the radar, without going out of their minds. This was discussed several times on old NOM, but the church changed over time. I was NOM back in 1980’s. I did not believe the BoM...