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by alas
Tue Jul 16, 2019 11:44 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: The Trickster God
Replies: 106
Views: 1771

Re: The Trickster God

Ed, I couldn’t follow your first post. It just didn’t make sense to me and I didn’t have time at that point to read through it several times to try to make sense of it. Now, I can’t go back and see what you were trying to say, to see if you just worded your argument badly, or us NOMs misunderstood a...
by alas
Tue Jul 16, 2019 7:28 am
Forum: Support
Topic: To tell in-laws or not?
Replies: 16
Views: 327

Re: To tell in-laws or not?

I always find these discussions so interesting because I would never have been able to live with a "don't ask, don't tell" policy for the long term. Just not my personality. It's not about seeking validation from other people for me but about not having the 1,923 awkward interactions where Mormons ...
by alas
Mon Jul 15, 2019 7:11 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Paradox or Problem
Replies: 12
Views: 441

Re: Paradox or Problem

I think in part we are solving the “problem part” of this with our modern mate selection process. Back in the day when less was expected of marriage, your partner was most likely selected for you by your parents. So, love, companionship, best friends, lovers, as well as co-parent were not really exp...
by alas
Mon Jul 15, 2019 6:54 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: To tell in-laws or not?
Replies: 16
Views: 327

Re: To tell in-laws or not?

I suspect that many family members prefer the “don’t ask, don’t tell” approach. That way, they can pretend as long as they need to that everything is fine with your testimony, or pretend it is just a phase, or blame you for being offended. It allows whatever they need to believe to keep their own te...
by alas
Fri Jul 12, 2019 7:37 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Nephite Interpreters
Replies: 45
Views: 863

Re: Nephite Interpreters

Emma's quote above gives more content to the discussion but isn't she only taking Joseph's word for using the Interpreters as the tool while she was scribing? Was there a sheet between herself and Joseph when she was scribe? Is there any record of her giving an actual account of "seeing" the Interp...
by alas
Tue Jul 09, 2019 1:05 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: How LDS Inc. Gets Away with Abuse
Replies: 6
Views: 285

Re: How LDS Inc. Gets Away with Abuse

Other side of the argument. If reporting is done when the victim first tells, who ever he/she tells acts to protect her/him and the criminal justice system doesn’t fail, if her mother can support her emotionally, if her siblings don’t blame her, if her mother divorces the abuser, If she is gotten in...
by alas
Tue Jul 09, 2019 12:38 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: How LDS Inc. Gets Away with Abuse
Replies: 6
Views: 285

Re: How LDS Inc. Gets Away with Abuse

Although I disagree with the bishop deciding not to report, that was what the victim apparently desired. Now, I am going to argue from a victim perspective as if I am still the kid who decided not to report myself. Then I will argue the OTHER side of this. This was in family sexual abuse. So, most o...
by alas
Tue Jul 09, 2019 12:07 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Still no thread on President Oak’s anti-LGBT bigotry?
Replies: 47
Views: 1391

Re: Still no thread on President Oak’s anti-LGBT bigotry?

An old friend of mine used to be very focused on her talent of singing - whenever you talked to her, she manager to turn it to her singing... it left the impression that she used that to feel better about herself but it made her seem unbalanced and obsessed. It was as if that was her sole sense of ...
by alas
Sun Jul 07, 2019 11:59 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: How do atheists find their car keys?
Replies: 16
Views: 591

Re: How do atheists find their car keys?

I keep my keys in my purse all hooked together in a huge glob and never lose them. So, one option is carry a purse. Now DH being a manly absent minded professor without the professor thing won’t carry any kind of bag. So, that leaves the other option of putting a key holder so DH has to walk past it...
by alas
Tue Jul 02, 2019 4:39 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: 'What do you believe?'
Replies: 9
Views: 385

Re: 'What do you believe?'

Well, I guess after that, I better have a good reply. The church does teach fear and guilt and shame. But the fear is slightly different for women. The church really drills into women that they NEED an active, priesthood holding husband. This is the whole focus of the YW program. Oh, sure they have ...
by alas
Tue Jul 02, 2019 9:35 am
Forum: Support
Topic: LDS church in the news
Replies: 17
Views: 645

Re: LDS church in the news

I just found out we’re doing one next year too and I was the only person who said, “why? Why are we glorifying poor decisions and outcomes from our past?” No one was pleased. I shared a link to the latest article of 300 plus heat stroke victims. No comment. And then I offered to be replaced (releas...
by alas
Mon Jul 01, 2019 12:06 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Carthage Conspiracy Theory
Replies: 15
Views: 518

Re: Carthage Conspiracy Theory

There were rumors that Joseph was going to disavow polygamy as a mistake and order everyone to give up all extra wives. That would not have been something that Brigham wanted, and Brigham DID want power, so I could believe that Brigham would be part of such a plot. But we need better evidence than j...
by alas
Mon Jul 01, 2019 11:58 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Second anointing and the priesthood
Replies: 12
Views: 586

Re: Second anointing and the priesthood

So if a woman is invoking her husband's priesthood power, then when she gives him a blessing, then he is basically just blessing himself. Would we call this "Priesthood Masturbation"? These are exactly the kinds of jokes that are going to get repeated as long as the Second Anointing remains in the ...
by alas
Mon Jul 01, 2019 11:40 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Where did this come from?
Replies: 19
Views: 582

Re: Where did this come from?

After the reversal of the unpopular POX, we are surprised by a sudden reversal of the unpopular “challenge them to baptism on the first lesson”? Nope, the church is good at reversing things that the members find unChristlike, it just takes them 5 through 50 years to catch on that it is an unChristli...
by alas
Mon Jun 24, 2019 5:53 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Second anointing and the priesthood
Replies: 12
Views: 586

Re: Second anointing and the priesthood

Most people never pay attention to the actual wording of the female endowment. Feminist Mormon housewives had a write up explaining the wording of the endowment, pre most recent changes. Look up “Mormon Priestess” on Feminist Mormon Housewives and read the “long version” that uses actual temple lang...
by alas
Mon Jun 24, 2019 3:49 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Second anointing and the priesthood
Replies: 12
Views: 586

Re: Second anointing and the priesthood

In the temple endowment a women is told that she will be a priestess “unto” her husband. So, I suspect that in the second anointing, a wife is ordained to the priesthood of her husband as he becomes her God. This is why women cannot be ordained to the priesthood of Jesus Christ. Because he (Jesus) i...
by alas
Sun Jun 09, 2019 9:02 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: I think I want to be cremated...
Replies: 28
Views: 682

Re: I think I want to be cremated...

There IS no policy. Case in point, my father was temple endowed, then ex-ed, then Re-baptized. We didn’t know if he had had his temple blessings “restored” or not. We didn’t even know if we are supposedly sealed to him or not. We asked his bishop and the bishop shrugged. WTF? Isn’t that on his churc...
by alas
Fri Jun 07, 2019 10:53 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Near Death
Replies: 19
Views: 914

Re: Near Death

In my reading I've come across secondary statements that they've identified the part of the brain that locates the self in the body. These statements don't identify the region by name. I've not been able to Google it up. It seems that the trauma stories of Alas are in the same vein as the burn acco...
by alas
Fri Jun 07, 2019 10:25 am
Forum: Support
Topic: New Wendy Nelson video is giving me a serious case of the heebie jeebies
Replies: 36
Views: 1170

Re: New Wendy Nelson video is giving me a serious case of the heebie jeebiesn

I would be interested in how you rate Sam Young? Is he the same as Wendy or Kate? Or is he a very different category because he is male? Or maybe because you understand his soap box and don’t understand Kate Kelly’s? Because I would put Kate in a very different category than Wendy who married power...
by alas
Thu Jun 06, 2019 12:26 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: New Wendy Nelson video is giving me a serious case of the heebie jeebies
Replies: 36
Views: 1170

Re: New Wendy Nelson video is giving me a serious case of the heebie jeebies

She isn't using her position to make life any better for other women in the Church. She is making it worse with her pharisaical brand of rigidly conformist Mormonism. She is an ironic figure in Mormonism - she has carved out a position for herself to wield more power than any woman that has come be...