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by alas
Thu Jan 23, 2020 10:50 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: TBM's and LGT
Replies: 7
Views: 190

Re: TBM's and LGT

The "Heartlanders at it again" thread got me thinking about how many TBM's are actually even aware the Limited Geography Theory- LGT. I would expect most are unaware of it. A few may think about it, and some may even take it seriously, while others prefer John Sorenson and other BYU profs. take on ...
by alas
Thu Jan 23, 2020 10:45 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Ministering, YM, EQ, and the Bishopric
Replies: 12
Views: 327

Re: Ministering, YM, EQ, and the Bishopric

In theory, if the needy members stop seeking out the bishop, and the bishopric can stop weekly visits to the most needy families, then the bishopric would finally have time to engage the YM. Apparently, YW don't matter so the bishopric still won't be involved in their activities. I had to assume th...
by alas
Tue Jan 21, 2020 3:42 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Ministering, YM, EQ, and the Bishopric
Replies: 12
Views: 327

Re: Ministering, YM, EQ, and the Bishopric

Prediction, the lonely will get lonelier, the fringe will get more fringe, the abused will have one less person to go to, and the YW will start leaving in droves, and the YM will be that much more rotten and entitled. Now, one good thing, my experience as RSP was that people came to me with problems...
by alas
Tue Jan 21, 2020 11:07 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Airing the Restored Laundry List
Replies: 15
Views: 288

Re: Airing the Restored Laundry List

I remember once when I was a new mother seeing an article in a parents magazine where she humorously went through all the advice she had been given. Then she timed feeding her breast feeding baby, timed the rocking to sleep, the diaper changing, then went through all the recommendations for new moth...
by alas
Sun Jan 19, 2020 10:35 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Multi-Cultural "Unique" Choir
Replies: 5
Views: 160

Re: Multi-Cultural "Unique" Choir

They are not asking for nonmembers if you read carefully the article and the application. Which of course makes the multicultural thing more challenging. They'll need all 5 black singers to apply :lol: Do you think they'll ask Gladys Knight to front the choir? Oh, my mistake on the idea of recruiti...
by alas
Sun Jan 19, 2020 10:00 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Church says it was an "error" that their Come Follow Me manual called the black skin curse a... black skin curse
Replies: 26
Views: 602

Re: Church says it was an "error" that their Come Follow Me manual called the black skin curse a... black skin curse

The church is so thorough in proofreading its publications, I'm wondering if this isn't a hatchet job from within where someone at the last moment, just before they went to press, made this change in the text in order to embarrass the church. Forcing the old doctrine into the light. Old but unrepud...
by alas
Sun Jan 19, 2020 9:24 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Multi-Cultural "Unique" Choir
Replies: 5
Views: 160

Re: Multi-Cultural "Unique" Choir

They want nonmembers to come sing so the church can LOOK multicultural? Isn’t that kind of faking a more multicultural look than really exists? Isn’t that faking it? Talk about a repeat of the “I’m a Mormon” campaign where they took non typical Mormon to make the church LOOK more diverse and even li...
by alas
Sat Jan 18, 2020 1:29 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Strange things in the Bible
Replies: 16
Views: 411

Re: Strange things in the Bible

I agree 3 years old is too young. Hell, I had nightmares about Injun Joe when my parents took me to Tom Sawyer at his age. My wife is ocd about following rules which is why she wants to read scriptures together nightly and have prayers even though she knows how I feel about the church and God. So i...
by alas
Thu Jan 16, 2020 10:09 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: What is the Church’s stance on feminism?
Replies: 19
Views: 431

Re: What is the Church’s stance on feminism?

I believe they are against it This is my favorite comment. :lol: But no, of course they're not against feminism. According to the article, they're totally for it, as long as it allows for teaching and institutionalizing the Lord's revealed stereotypes. They are for feminism as long as women define ...
by alas
Thu Jan 16, 2020 9:40 am
Forum: Support
Topic: The core of my mormon trauma
Replies: 11
Views: 368

Re: The core of my mormon trauma

I agree with Palerider, you are suffering from dashed expectations. You expected Mormons to be authentic, to act according to their genuine self. But Mormons are the biggest fakers I have ever met. I realized early on that the church teaches people to pretend to be perfect Mormons. There were some g...
by alas
Tue Jan 14, 2020 1:41 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: What is the Church’s stance on feminism?
Replies: 19
Views: 431

Re: What is the Church’s stance on feminism?

After getting my eyes unstuck from having rolled :roll: then into the top of my eye sockets, I have concluded from the 40-60 year old language they are using that they still don’t even understand what feminism is. Their language is as old as their ideas. “Male chauvinist” is a term that I don’t thin...
by alas
Mon Jan 13, 2020 10:04 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: RFM & Terryl Givens - interesting insights
Replies: 21
Views: 655

Re: RFM & Terryl Givens - interesting insights

Over at Common Concentration there is a 2017 discussion titled plans of salvation that gets into various views of the plan of salvation. Sorry that I can’t do links on an iPad and I have no computer. If someone else could look it up and link to it, please, I would appreciate it. I found it by follow...
by alas
Sun Jan 12, 2020 10:34 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Universal Resurrection confusion
Replies: 19
Views: 512

Re: Universal Resurrection confusion

I once considered all the ants that have ever lived on earth being resurrected and the earth is now twenty feet deep in crawling ant bodies. Never mind all the mosquitoes. I decided Joseph had a screw loose about resurrecting animals.
by alas
Sun Jan 12, 2020 10:19 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Houston we have a problem !
Replies: 23
Views: 1120

Re: Houston we have a problem !

I have a rare day off church due to ice here in Michigan. I know I said I was ready to return to full church membership just for my wife but I am still uncomfortable with that decision !!!! I listened to a catholic priest on you tube recently that said "if you are uncomfortable with your decision t...
by alas
Thu Jan 09, 2020 1:45 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Why did Joseph Smith return from Iowa to go to Carthage?
Replies: 18
Views: 625

Re: Why did Joseph Smith return from Iowa to go to Carthage?

I'll add my agreement to Advocate's ideas above. Savonarola (15th century Florence) is another example of a prophet playing his cards until they led all the way to martyrdom. In the field of religion martyrdom is an honor. Joseph was probably thinking God would welcome him on the other side, and ma...
by alas
Thu Jan 09, 2020 10:30 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Burial in temple clothes
Replies: 34
Views: 838

Re: Burial in temple clothes

Get your end of life wishes in writing. Is there a legal form for this? If so, does it vary by state (and what is it called, so I can do an internet search for it)? For example, I'm currently in Utah, but I hope to move to a different state at some point, and don't know if I'd need another form for...
by alas
Thu Jan 09, 2020 10:13 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Rough Sunday
Replies: 20
Views: 830

Re: Rough Sunday

TBMs think they have the truth, just like we NOMs think we have the truth, and they think that because it is truth, that exposing you to it will help you see the truth, just like we NOMs just want our spouse to listen to our side of things just once so they will begin to see it is the truth. So just...
by alas
Wed Jan 08, 2020 10:28 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Burial in temple clothes
Replies: 34
Views: 838

Re: Burial in temple clothes

I actually count having no conflicting feelings about being cremated as one of the positives of leaving Mormonism. I always knew it was what I wanted, but the crazy Mormon beliefs I grew up with in the 80s made me feel like it was "wrong." My direct instructions to all members of my family 1) If I ...
by alas
Tue Jan 07, 2020 1:44 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Burial in temple clothes
Replies: 34
Views: 838

Re: Burial in temple clothes

When my f at her died, he had been endowed, then excommunicated, then rebaptised. No restoration of temple blessings. Do we follow this guideline or not? So we asked several people and got told that it was up to us. No policy on the x-ed and redunked. Since it was primarily my mother who should deci...
by alas
Tue Jan 07, 2020 12:40 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: RFM & Terryl Givens - interesting insights
Replies: 21
Views: 655

Re: RFM & Terryl Givens - interesting insights

RFM's recent podcast about the "Subversive Terryl Givens" had a couple of gems that are worth discussing. Givens points out that Joseph Smith would add ideas to the JST and then shortly thereafter those words would just happen to show up in a D&C revelation, coming from the mouth of God. Interestin...