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I watched a couple of episodes of the Netflix documentary 3 wives about a polygamist group near Moab, Utah. I'm not sure how accurately it portrays their lives, but there are some interesting dynamics. First, it seems like wife#1 in both family groups that are featured is the woman that is most sec...

This is why I faked it for forever. I have found since I gave up pretending that the more honest you are and then maintain your boundaries firmly, life just seems to go better. Some people may not like you as much, because they know who you are, but then other people will like you more because they ...

Rob, I suspect that my “wrench” above is actually a “cog” in the whole theory. See, with how they insisted on marrying young women instead of old widows to “take care of them” they had to have a cover theory other than lust. So, it was all about building up their posterity for the next life. This i...

Rob, I suspect that my “wrench” above is actually a “cog” in the whole theory. See, with how they insisted on marrying young women instead of old widows to “take care of them” they had to have a cover theory other than lust. So, it was all about building up their posterity for the next life. This is...

I am amazed that you are able to do all that and keep it all in your head !! I tried that but was unable too. My situation is very much the same. I am however considering to opt out on the or else part !!!! I am threatened with rejoin the church , I left 18 months ago but have never stopped attendi...

This thread really took a detour. I was gunna read that book and comment on how I felt there was a connection between polygamy and sexual repression, as the polygamous mothers trained their children to abhor anything remotely connecting sexuality with "pleasure". I'll try to post findings for the f...

I was told to wear my bra over, but that is worse and worse the more well endowed you are. I rebelled fairly quickly and was always the only one I knew who dared wear them so as to be comfortable. The temple recommend interview or handbook says that how you wear the garment is between you are God. H...

As far as the BoM, I think it has the same value as other bad fiction. It has something because it emotionally appeals to people. I may not be one of the people it appeals to, but then I am not fond of Roman mythology either, but I do see the appeal to those who find meaning.

When we teach make believe, we are not doing our kids any favors if we insist it is truth. I think kids pick up the difference between truth and make believe if we allow them to. So, for me Santa was never any more problem than any other make believe because I had conversations with my children abou...

Well, there are a few things written in to this compromise that sabatoge it. It uses words like prescription, that at attic ally make it illegal. Doctors cannot write a prescription for any form of MJ. It requires a pharmacist to work at the dispensary, which will cause hm to lose his license. It i...

Well, there are a few things written in to this compromise that sabatoge it. It uses words like prescription, that at attic ally make it illegal. Doctors cannot write a prescription for any form of MJ. It requires a pharmacist to work at the dispensary, which will cause hm to lose his license. It is...

My DH turned it on and I started out in the wrong mood because he turned off the movie I as watching. Our house is small enough that really, there is no place to go except out in the rain to escape. I figured the music at least is good. And I don’t know about the girl with cancer, maybe the attentio...

I feel for you. Been there done that. It hurts to see someone you love in so much pain that they just want to die. And I agree with Mopage that telling someone who is suffering to have faith just adds to their burden. It makes it all the sick person’s fault that the blessing doesn’t help. I have lon...

If it causes cognitive dissonance among believers, it is anti Mormon. Now, some TBMs are more knowledgeable about history, so what is fact for some is anti Mormon for others.

This is interesting. An average TBM might argue that certain parts (fence sitters) are not correct,although that is constantly in flux. (my 9th grade Seminary teacher probably would have agreed %100 with this) It would be interesting to compare charts of other world views: Christian, Muslim, Deist,...

Is there a correlation between sexual repression and religiosity? Do unhealthy views on sexuality accompany unhealthy views on religion? When I was a TBM in a sexless marriage I looked to Catholic nuns, and Buddhist monks to learn the art of celibacy and abstinence. There are quite a few religions ...

Pathetic. I can’t believe I ever believed....wait, I never did. I got hung up on blacks being fence sitters, on polygamy, on women being queens unto their husbands, on secret handshakes before I ever made it through the endowment ceremony. So, three quarters of this, I disbelieved as soon as I knew ...

I don’t feel I have anything to go back to, except cognitive dissonance. Even my first memories of church are things that stuck out because they sounded wrong, back in primary. I wasn’t even eight before I decided that God would not be so stupid as to call a 14 year old boy as prophet, especially TH...

Things like this are biased, and unless you can recognize the bias n the other presentations of JWs and Scientology and discuss what is fair and what is just angry bias, you won’t get anywhere with anything positive with something like this with Mormons. But if you can set an example of analyzing th...

Oh, and Mark E Peterson never having seen his wife’s naked body, doesn’t at all reflect how often they had sex. They just did sex through the garment and never took for garments all the way off. And dressed in the locked bathroom. My grandmother was this way. Plenty of sex, 12 kids, so plenty of sex...