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- Sun Dec 03, 2023 7:49 pm
- Forum: Support
- Topic: Real people
- Replies: 4
- Views: 128
Re: Real people
Pompous jackasses are pompous jackasses whether they have university degrees or run a cattle ranch and dropped out of fourth grade. It s just that pompous jackasses Ike to use whatever they can to make others feel insecure. I have an uneducated sister in law who thinks she and her husband are the on...
- Mon Nov 27, 2023 11:33 am
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Thom Harrison and "Visions of Glory"
- Replies: 63
- Views: 6818
Re: Thom Harrison and "Visions of Glory"
The over focus on porn is also part of patriarchy. You can tell because, gee, it was a men only lesson. Patriarchy pretends that women are too pure to have sexual thoughts or feelings. Women are just an empty vessel to incubate children. They have no sexual drive, they are not turned on themselves, ...
- Sat Nov 25, 2023 10:39 am
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Thom Harrison and "Visions of Glory"
- Replies: 63
- Views: 6818
Re: Thom Harrison and "Visions of Glory"
So, guys, what did patriarchy teach you. Good lessons like protect women and children, and bad ones. Probably should be a new thread, but the mods can split it if they want. From the time I turned 12 I was taught that I possessed the greatest power in the universe ("more power in your little finger...
- Thu Nov 23, 2023 8:51 am
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Thom Harrison and "Visions of Glory"
- Replies: 63
- Views: 6818
Re: Thom Harrison and "Visions of Glory"
I also find it fascinating how conversations can veer off in unexpected directions that take them miles from the original topic. I also confess to being one of the worst perpetrators of said veering. Eh ... I'm one of the biggest offenders at that. I know it really bugs some people, so I try not to...
- Thu Nov 23, 2023 8:32 am
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: The 'Zina' Principle.
- Replies: 6
- Views: 1445
Re: The 'Zina' Principle.
The Zina principle is a fine example of Joseph Smith playing Calvin ball. If the rules don’t work for your benefit, change the rules. Legally you are allowed one wife. But change the rules and I can have more. Can’t have a woman is she is married to someone else. Change the rules. You must get your ...
- Fri Nov 17, 2023 7:23 am
- Forum: The Coffee Shop
- Topic: How America Has Been Let Down By The Republicans
- Replies: 37
- Views: 2919
Re: How America Has Been Let Down By The Republicans
You talk about what communism wanted to do, then you switch over to how the horrible democrats want socialism. Learn the difference. Socialism is not communism. I am not one bit afraid of socialism. I have lived in a socialist country, and they had as many rights as we do, but they had medical care,...
- Fri Nov 17, 2023 7:07 am
- Forum: The Coffee Shop
- Topic: How social justice movements are like the LDS church
- Replies: 6
- Views: 2469
Re: How social justice movements are like the LDS church
In actuality, women benefited greatly from the feminist movement in the beginning, but like any train without brakes, they're crashing hard, they are hardly relevant anymore—especially since most feminists are afraid to define what a woman is! Feminism is great. But that movement has been replaced ...
- Fri Nov 17, 2023 6:21 am
- Forum: Support
- Topic: Ayaan Hirsi Ali Joins Christianity
- Replies: 11
- Views: 961
Re: Ayaan Hirsi Ali Joins Christianity
Yet I would not be truthful if I attributed my embrace of Christianity solely to the realisation that atheism is too weak and divisive a doctrine to fortify us against our menacing foes. People worried about "menacing foes" probably do need religion... or are unable to completely divorce themselves...
- Wed Nov 15, 2023 12:12 pm
- Forum: Support
- Topic: Primary Program 2023
- Replies: 10
- Views: 840
Re: Primary Program 2023
It's still the only LDS meeting that can hold my attention. My only memory of participating in the Primary program was standing there with a microphone in my hand and saying, "Teacher, I forgot my line!" Uproarious laughter from the congregation only magnified the terror. I know I've told y'all thi...
- Wed Nov 15, 2023 12:03 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Thom Harrison and "Visions of Glory"
- Replies: 63
- Views: 6818
Re: Thom Harrison and "Visions of Glory"
So, it really is kind of a chicken and egg thing, but more complicated. TANGENT ALERT!!! I know a guy whose company does a lot of the painting in new temples, as well as paint touch-ups, Moroni re-goldleafing, etc. in older temples. He told me the Salt Lake temple's Creation Room mural once had a n...
- Wed Nov 15, 2023 4:53 am
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Thom Harrison and "Visions of Glory"
- Replies: 63
- Views: 6818
Re: Thom Harrison and "Visions of Glory"
I hope I don’t scare off Jeffret. I am only willing to get into this kind of discussion with someone I trust and respect how he thinks. But most people don’t take my arguing with them as the complement it really is. I don’t discuss things with stupid people—-boring. And I don’t discuss things with m...
- Wed Nov 15, 2023 4:20 am
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Belief is easy, doubt is hard.
- Replies: 3
- Views: 495
Re: Belief is easy, doubt is hard.
This is interesting. When you think about it, you know it is true. Just how hard was it for us to start questioning the church? How old were we before we dared buy a car that our father didn’t approve of that brand? Or as my sister said, “I knew I had finally grown up when I could buy the brand of t...
- Tue Nov 14, 2023 8:54 am
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Thom Harrison and "Visions of Glory"
- Replies: 63
- Views: 6818
Re: Thom Harrison and "Visions of Glory"
Oh, that bit that sounds like the male rights people, yeah, I am being sarcastic. But that was close to what some male anthropologists did in declaring that there were matriarchal societies. They saw something close to egalitarian and declared it matriarchal, because they couldn’t believe all the po...
- Tue Nov 14, 2023 8:45 am
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Thom Harrison and "Visions of Glory"
- Replies: 63
- Views: 6818
Re: Thom Harrison and "Visions of Glory"
All human cultures have been ruled by men. In human history we have never had one where the ruling power was held only by women. This is well outside my area of expertise or anything I've studied, but I have read that there have been matriarchal societies, or societies ruled by women. So, yeah, I d...
- Mon Nov 13, 2023 8:31 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Thom Harrison and "Visions of Glory"
- Replies: 63
- Views: 6818
Re: Thom Harrison and "Visions of Glory"
So, no, men are not dominant because of patriarchy. We have patriarchy because men like to dominate. I remain unconvinced that patriarchal structures have no influence or that we can wholly exclude patriarchy from any causality. My observation is that some of these behaviors and desires are greater...
- Mon Nov 13, 2023 3:53 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Thom Harrison and "Visions of Glory"
- Replies: 63
- Views: 6818
Re: Thom Harrison and "Visions of Glory"
Women don’t equate the control and domination of their partner with eroticism, so women don’t sexually abuse near as much, and when they do, it is usually motivated by different things. This is pretty clearly driven by patriarchy. Men pursue control and domination because the patriarchy tells them ...
- Mon Nov 13, 2023 9:11 am
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Thom Harrison and "Visions of Glory"
- Replies: 63
- Views: 6818
Re: Thom Harrison and "Visions of Glory"
Do straight women find gay sex erotic, in the way straight men find lesbian sex erotic, no, I have never heard the idea and in a few of my social work or psychology classes we actually discussed such issues, and the studies say no. There are a few differences in male sexuality compared to female. Wo...
- Sat Nov 11, 2023 5:16 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Thom Harrison and "Visions of Glory"
- Replies: 63
- Views: 6818
Re: Thom Harrison and "Visions of Glory"
Lesbians just ignored in a lot of this. Yeah, that's interesting. No preisthood, not such a big deal. Homophobes never have gotten as bent out of shape over lesbians. I think it has to do with the fear many men have of being “unmanly”. There is so much misogyny already in our culture, where it is i...
- Fri Nov 10, 2023 12:20 pm
- Forum: Support
- Topic: TIL: Nauvoo Expositor Is Part of 7th Grade Utah History
- Replies: 8
- Views: 628
Re: TIL: Nauvoo Expositor Is Part of 7th Grade Utah History
The Nauvoo Expositer incident is an example of the importance of examining all sides of the story. When I read Joseph Smith's History of the Church it said the Nauvoo Expositor was a "slanderous and libelous paper." That was considered an complete explanation in my 1970's Seminary and Ricks College...
- Mon Oct 30, 2023 9:35 am
- Forum: The Coffee Shop
- Topic: The Reality of Woke Ideology
- Replies: 22
- Views: 1608
Re: The Reality of Woke Ideology
Thank you, Angel. You refer to this as a war. You refer to a start. Specifically, you say "before the war started." With so much connection to the area, I am curious what day or moment you, your husband, your students, and friends would consider to be the start. Would the answers all be the same? O...