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- Thu Nov 01, 2018 9:27 am
- Forum: Support
- Topic: Faith Crisis Report
- Replies: 37
- Views: 17800
Re: Faith Crisis Report
On the topic of Clayton Christensen... I've wondered why he hasn't risen to the ranks of area authority or even general authority for that matter, given his serious life accomplishments and respect amongst the business-academic and big business communities. The church is all about big business right...
- Thu Nov 01, 2018 9:24 am
- Forum: Support
- Topic: Faith Crisis Report
- Replies: 37
- Views: 17800
Re: Faith Crisis Report
In another online NOMish discussion group, someone purported to know a few people who were behind the creation of this project and its presentation at the COB. This individual confirmed what I suspected based on the quote at the beginning of the presentation - that Clayton Christensen of the Harvard...
- Wed Oct 31, 2018 5:51 pm
- Forum: Support
- Topic: My Exorcism
- Replies: 15
- Views: 7180
Re: My Exorcism
Interesting for sure. I have no firsthand experience myself, but know a few people who served missions in the AZ and NM missions, and a good friend who's mother is 100% Navajo. I've asked these people what they think about skin walkers because it amuses me, and all of them say they believe in them a...
- Tue Oct 30, 2018 9:14 am
- Forum: Support
- Topic: Faith Crisis Report
- Replies: 37
- Views: 17800
Re: Faith Crisis Report
I wonder if this influenced DFU's October 2013 talk, Come, join with us . That was the "Doubt your doubts" talk and I think we can all see how effective that bit of advice truly was. As others have noted, this was the response of a guy who is revered as a prophet, see, and revelator. I like Dieter ...
- Mon Oct 29, 2018 6:24 pm
- Forum: Support
- Topic: Faith Crisis Report
- Replies: 37
- Views: 17800
Re: Faith Crisis Report
Fascinating. Thanks for sharing RedRyder. Going to spend some time with this.
- Sun Oct 28, 2018 5:50 am
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: What would you expect if the church was true?
- Replies: 25
- Views: 11363
Re: What would you expect if the church was true?
If, "If the church was true" is the same thing as the church is God's one true church, I would expect the church to be the clear objective best organization on earth in: - Caring for orphans - Caring for abandoned children - Caring for the poor My #1 issue with the church is I believe the church is ...
- Sat Oct 27, 2018 1:23 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Sin, and an Omnipotant God who can't change His mind.
- Replies: 6
- Views: 3797
Re: Sin, and an Omnipotant God who can't change His mind.
The famous 1982 letter banning oral sex is a good example of a sin that stopped being sinful. Was gonna say the same thing. If you really want to find some examples, dig into McConkie's Mormon Doctrine or Joseph Fielding Smith's Doctrines of Salvation. There's some interesting stuff in there. For e...
- Sat Oct 27, 2018 12:40 pm
- Forum: Support
- Topic: I'm Leaving Soon
- Replies: 9
- Views: 4861
Re: I'm Leaving Soon
If you wouldn't mind, would love a report of the aftermath. And good luck! I may find myself doing the same if things continue to forward like they have under RMN. If Oaks goes crazy as president in his crusade against LGBTQ folks, I may become very publicly against the church.
- Sat Oct 27, 2018 12:38 pm
- Forum: Support
- Topic: A new name
- Replies: 28
- Views: 12492
- Sat Oct 27, 2018 12:36 pm
- Forum: Support
- Topic: A new name
- Replies: 28
- Views: 12492
Re: A new name
If temple names were celebrities I would be named after a Super Bowl winning quarterback and the wife would be named after a Supermodel! Yes, we have beautiful kids! Anyone want to guess? Oh man, you could be a few. Elijah, Andrew, Aaron, Stephen, Phillip, John, Joseph. As or your DW - no clue. I'd...
- Sat Oct 27, 2018 11:41 am
- Forum: Support
- Topic: A new name
- Replies: 28
- Views: 12492
Re: A new name
The other night, I shared my "new name" with my DW and a good friend who is a gentile, but who knows a lot about Mormonism including the endowment. My DW then shared her new name with our gentile friend (I of course knew it already), and then we just talked about how odd the whole endowment is, etc...
- Sat Oct 27, 2018 11:41 am
- Forum: Support
- Topic: A new name
- Replies: 28
- Views: 12492
- Fri Oct 26, 2018 8:17 pm
- Forum: Support
- Topic: A new name
- Replies: 28
- Views: 12492
A new name
The other night, I shared my "new name" with my DW and a good friend who is a gentile, but who knows a lot about Mormonism including the endowment. My DW then shared her new name with our gentile friend (I of course knew it already), and then we just talked about how odd the whole endowment is, etc....
- Thu Oct 25, 2018 6:51 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Dartmouth connection to early Mo'ism?
- Replies: 11
- Views: 4367
Re: Dartmouth connection to early Mo'ism?
http://www.mormonorigins.com/assets/files/_ms1266-1-3_5--Lecture_XXXIII_The_Fall__Oath_Convenat_Fall_After_The_Order_Of_Melchezidik.pdf Interesting. There seems to be some strong parallels with temple endowment language in the above lecture: "I shall explain to you the covenant of grace..." I strugg...
- Fri Oct 19, 2018 10:13 am
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: The Hate Some Members Cling to...
- Replies: 9
- Views: 4072
Re: The Hate Some Members Cling to...
Wow. Wasn't aware of that forum. Thanks for sharing. That OP is insane and god-awful. Was scanning some of the other posts on there and it literally made me depressed. Makes me understand the perspective of Richard Dawkins-type folks who hate organized religion. Shocking that people believe what the...
- Thu Oct 18, 2018 1:06 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: The problem of evil and the name of the church
- Replies: 12
- Views: 8355
Re: The problem of evil and the name of the church
Good opinion on the tribune about this: War, famine, disease, global warming, drug epidemics, human trafficking, human rights abuses, Donald Trump, sexual assault (oh, I’m sorry, the last two were redundant) and God picks up the phone and calls Russell Nelson about nicknames. I am fairly certain, Pr...
- Wed Oct 17, 2018 2:59 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: The Second Sacred Grove
- Replies: 5
- Views: 3354
Re: The Second Sacred Grove
I just read an article by Matthew C. Godfrey in the Journal of Mormon History titled The Second Sacred Grove: The Influence of Greenville Indiana in Joseph Smith's 1932 account . Interesting that Godfrey (currently at BYU, right?) would publish this. Do you know if Journal of Mormon History is bias...
- Tue Oct 16, 2018 7:28 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: MormonStories #998-999 - Dusty Johns
- Replies: 6
- Views: 3861
Re: MormonStories #998-999 - Dusty Johns
Dusty and John talk about this in the podcast. It's really interesting... Supposedly the church has backed off in excommunicating individuals who are active in their homosexuality. This is particularly the case for inactive homosexuals - the church is just leaving them alone (this is what John sugge...
- Tue Oct 16, 2018 7:13 pm
- Forum: Support
- Topic: Ex-Mormon Discrimination
- Replies: 2
- Views: 1394
Ex-Mormon Discrimination
Just curious, have any of you experienced employment discrimination because you are known publicly as an ex-Mormon? If so, is there much you can do to work with the problem, get around it, mitigate it, whatever..., absent going back to church? I got wind that news of my DW and I leaving the church h...
- Tue Oct 16, 2018 4:23 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Melonakos Interview with John Dehlin
- Replies: 40
- Views: 22459
Re: Melonakos Interview with John Dehlin
[...he began to believe his own lie... that he was super special and called of God. We see modern day examples of this in the Q15. They know they don't talk to God, but just get ideas and feelings about things just like the rest of us. But so many people have told them they were so awesome for so l...