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by jfro18
Fri Apr 23, 2021 9:09 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Why go to a "Membership Council?"
Replies: 14
Views: 201

Re: Why go to a "Membership Council?"

alas wrote:
Fri Apr 23, 2021 8:45 am
They just want the press to think they are nicer than they are.
That's really all you need to know about many of the changes the church has made in recent years.
by jfro18
Fri Apr 23, 2021 8:19 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Who’s next on the excommunication list?
Replies: 5
Views: 47

Re: Who’s next on the excommunication list?

I cannot believe that RFM hasn't been dealt with since he has been 'outed' and doesn't hide his identity anymore even if he doesn't use his name during podcasts. Because Jana Reiss has a direct vehicle to publish about the church to an audience beyond people who are really engaged in Mormonism, they...
by jfro18
Thu Apr 22, 2021 10:25 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Why go to a "Membership Council?"
Replies: 14
Views: 201

Re: Why go to a "Membership Council?"

Yeah this is 100% about how to avoid bad PR for excommunicating someone, but the problem is that the effects are the same with a different word. I'm not sure what they think they're going to accomplish here because the rest of the world doesn't give a flying #$% about the church's terminology, and w...
by jfro18
Thu Apr 22, 2021 8:08 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Kwaku, FAIRMomon, and terminating Dehlin
Replies: 76
Views: 5274

Re: Kwaku, FAIRMomon, and terminating Dehlin

Kwaku is a self promoter just as much as John is. He knows he’s building his influencer brand. Whatever that is. Big Provo Nuisance? However, wouldn’t it be ironic if John was funding this through back room deals? You know, to create buzz around his own brand? The thing is that John doesn't need Kw...
by jfro18
Mon Apr 19, 2021 7:42 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Did Netasha Helfer-Parker get Exed?
Replies: 75
Views: 1851

Re: Did Netasha Helfer-Parker get Exed?

This thing turned into a circus in a big hurry. I understand that she is at a terrible low in her life, but using a public forum (Facebook) to vent and process everything going on hasn't really helped her, in my opinion. Trying to follow some of her posts today was...interesting. I hadn't been keep...
by jfro18
Mon Apr 19, 2021 9:45 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Did Netasha Helfer-Parker get Exed?
Replies: 75
Views: 1851

Re: Did Netasha Helfer-Parker get Exed?

They're cowards. They wanted to ex Natasha and make sure she didn't record the meeting, because they don't want their words getting out because they come off so cult-like. So they booted her because they figure that if she was using her phone to access notes that she would use it to record them, whi...
by jfro18
Sun Apr 18, 2021 7:06 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Did Netasha Helfer-Parker get Exed?
Replies: 75
Views: 1851

Re: Did Netasha Helfer-Parker get Exed?

What kind of life do we have, jfro, that we're giving live updates to this? I'm starting to get depressed. :lol: It's been a long time since I've had a life. :lol: I only happened to see it as Anthony posted on Facebook - I wasn't watching the live feeds or anything as DW would not appreciate that ...
by jfro18
Sun Apr 18, 2021 6:32 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Did Netasha Helfer-Parker get Exed?
Replies: 75
Views: 1851

Re: Did Netasha Helfer-Parker get Exed?

Absolutely insane... from Anthony Miller: Update: Natasha’s pre-approved witnesses (including active members of the Church) were not allowed into the building to use the restroom. Natasha had all her notes on her phone with the remarks she wanted to share, and the Stake President required that she s...
by jfro18
Sun Apr 18, 2021 6:04 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Did Netasha Helfer-Parker get Exed?
Replies: 75
Views: 1851

Re: Did Netasha Helfer-Parker get Exed?

2bizE wrote:
Sun Apr 18, 2021 5:34 pm
I bet they don’t offer a ruling tonight. I bet they will send her a letter in a few days with their decision after they consult with their appointed 70.
Wasn't Sam Young around 2-3 weeks after the meeting?

I assume this will be at least a few weeks unless they give her a more clear time-frame?
by jfro18
Sun Apr 18, 2021 1:54 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Is Dallin Oaks the worst of the current leaders?
Replies: 9
Views: 308

Re: Is Dallin Oaks the worst of the current leaders?

Didn’t Oaks run the surveillance program to trap homosexual students at BYU in the late 70’s? “We are not going to stand for solicitation of sexual acts—homosexual or heterosexual—on this campus and among its students. We ask Security to be especially watchful for that kind of crime”.[10] And was i...
by jfro18
Sat Apr 17, 2021 1:58 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Did Netasha Helfer-Parker get Exed?
Replies: 75
Views: 1851

Re: Did Netasha Helfer-Parker get Exed?

You know, I am realizing that the idea of axing (my spell checker doesn’t like “ex-ing” so “axing” is good enough) a MFC for applying behavioral and scientific best practices in her professional life and even teaching about the scientific approach to sexuality, is bothering me more than any of the ...
by jfro18
Sat Apr 17, 2021 1:09 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Did Netasha Helfer-Parker get Exed?
Replies: 75
Views: 1851

Re: Did Netasha Helfer-Parker get Exed?

And in the places where your counselor was reacting, I would have been open about my reaction, with something like, “is that really OK with you?” And then I would have dug deeper into how that made you feel. Even if it took me saying “I want to explore that a little more because I am not comfortabl...
by jfro18
Sat Apr 17, 2021 1:03 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Is Dallin Oaks the worst of the current leaders?
Replies: 9
Views: 308

Is Dallin Oaks the worst of the current leaders?

As I'm doing these overviews, every time I come across the most "troubling" comments from the current generations of leaders it is almost always Oaks. I haven't even gotten to LGBT issues yet, but he's there on how to gain a testimony, only trusting personal revelation that confirms leaders, being d...
by jfro18
Sat Apr 17, 2021 8:40 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Did Netasha Helfer-Parker get Exed?
Replies: 75
Views: 1851

Re: Did Netasha Helfer-Parker get Exed?

Oh, in one of those discussions, they specifically asked me my opinion on the church’s stand on the topic we were discussing. I did the usual of turning it back to get what they thought and they again asked what I thought. Kind of “is the church wrong on this?” I just said that in my opinion, the c...
by jfro18
Fri Apr 16, 2021 5:17 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: What are you doing to protect your family against the virus?
Replies: 641
Views: 147045

Re: What are you doing to protect your family against the virus?

Y’all ever worry that we have a conspiracy believer reading here and what you say could go viral on parler? Just asking. I deal with this nonsense on Twitter every day - they have plenty of material to source from and parler is like an alternate universe even from Twitter. My childhood music privat...
by jfro18
Fri Apr 16, 2021 7:38 am
Forum: Support
Topic: What are you doing to protect your family against the virus?
Replies: 641
Views: 147045

Re: What are you doing to protect your family against the virus?

I got my first Moderna shot yesterday - my shoulder area has been stiff for about 36 hours but nothing to complain about. Just glad to finally get an appt here and get the ball rolling! Do you suddenly feel the urge to build a multi-million dollar luxury cavern in the hillside of Bainbridge Island ...
by jfro18
Thu Apr 15, 2021 6:53 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: What are you doing to protect your family against the virus?
Replies: 641
Views: 147045

Re: What are you doing to protect your family against the virus?

I got my first Moderna shot yesterday - my shoulder area has been stiff for about 36 hours but nothing to complain about.

Just glad to finally get an appt here and get the ball rolling!
by jfro18
Thu Apr 15, 2021 6:52 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Did Netasha Helfer-Parker get Exed?
Replies: 75
Views: 1851

Re: Did Netasha Helfer-Parker get Exed?

Natasha has a website called the Mormon Therapist. She is a licensed sex therapist and works with many people who have been broken from Mormonism. Her website has many great insights. I listened to her MS interview today - I honestly can't believe they are being this stupid. They pick her to discip...
by jfro18
Thu Apr 15, 2021 9:25 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Did Netasha Helfer-Parker get Exed?
Replies: 75
Views: 1851

Re: Did Netasha Helfer-Parker get Exed?

I listened to her Mormon Stories interview as I worked this morning and I cannot believe how stupid the church is being here. With other high profile excommunications (John Dehlin, Jeremy Runnells, Bill Reel) they were pretty much begging to be ex'ed, but here she is absolutely not trying to undermi...
by jfro18
Thu Apr 15, 2021 7:33 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Kwaku, FAIRMomon, and terminating Dehlin
Replies: 76
Views: 5274

Re: Kwaku, FAIRMomon, and terminating Dehlin

I listened to the Kwaku interview today - it was fine. Just as with Jim Bennett, Kwaku comes off much nicer and less antagonistic when talking with those who no longer believe. The interview itself was fairly bland - Bill had pushed back on the tone, but I wish they had pushed back more on the conte...