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I listened today while working - it's really fascinating. When I first started researching church history, apologists were so insistent that BH Roberts was only playing devil's advocate to these issues and was not writing this as his own reflection, but listening to Shannon Montez makes it beyond cl...

There's a new article from the Atlantic ( https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2020/09/trump-secretly-mocks-his-christian-supporters/616522/ ) this morning about how Trump really views religious leaders, and it's written by a believing Mormon named McKay Coppins. It focuses on Trump and Morm...

Another great one - the anachronisms within Jesus' visit are things I never would've known as a member, but make so much sense now.

That's the only reason I'd go. In all seriousness, I wonder if they are making a big deal out of this, so Nelson can have his own 25th anniversary party for HIS proclamation down the road. Otherwise, that nothingburger is going to get...nothing. In 23 years Nelson will be long dead (and probably th...

I think the best use of this factoid is to acknowledge that it might be a coincidence in the same way that NHM might be a coincidence. "I'll see your coincidence, Mr. Apologist, and raise you an even bigger one." If Joseph could coincidentally come up with a name of a place and a character in his b...

The cynical part of me is expecting that this GenCon will be a lot of fire and brimstone talk about how members need to hold on even tighter and make sure they are still attending meetings and paying tithing as these events are part of the 'winding up scene.' It will be about reaching out to family ...

This is another great one! I remember early on listening to the Mormon Stories with Brent Metcalfe and he talked about how one of his biggest problems with the BoM's historicity is that Jesus gives the exact same 'Sermon on the Mount' from Matthew with errors and all. It was really eye opening when ...

I need to check out Consiglieri's podcast on this - I listened to John Dehlin's one from a week or two ago and it's, to me, just an area that critics don't need to touch to be honest. To your point - it's missing that final link, and until that link is better established I wish it was not in the CES...

I don’t trust anything on the surface anymore and it’s beginning to effect my life and happiness. I’ve become super negative towards the most trivial things, vocal about lame political commercials, and pessimistic about humanity especially considering Carol Baskin will probably make it through anot...

My mistake. It was not LDS Living, it was Meridian magazine: https://latterdaysaintmag.com/article-1-14059/ It's a pretty entertaining article siding with Ken Hamm over Bill Nye. Incredible. How could someone write this without seeing how absolutely nonsensical it is? Noah did not need to capture t...

What's even more amazing to me is that Rasband is clearly reading the answer off a tablet, and yet that's still the best they can do. It's crazy... Sis Rasband's answer after the video and discussion of sealing is not much better as she bashes looking at anti-Mormon material. But yeah - they know th...

This is a good one, and one I wish I had thought of as a believer. Why would Jesus come to America just to go scorched earth on it?

Will definitely be referring to this in the future!

Better yet, how did they survive at all? They are the very civilizations that God intended to wipe out with the flood. He must be a pretty lame cosmic smiters, considering that these civilizations just went on completely interrupted and unaware that they had been deluged by a global ocean that was ...

I just finished up the next overview of the global flood and Mormonism. I have to say on this one that I am shocked that as a believer I never really connected the dots. I remember even as a kid thinking there was no way every living human and animal was killed off, but I still never connected the d...

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Wed Sep 09, 2020 3:32 pm

These are small but telling examples, revealing the way Gee takes research out of context to suit his own narrative, all the while claiming that it’s other people who are pushing a narrative.

Apologetics in a nut shell.

What a great line... and this couldn't happen to a more deserving person.

In the months since GC, I would say the proc on the family is referenced 10-20x as much as this on the little bit I've read on Reddit/Twitter/etc... I think this is just a rehashing of their 1980s proclamation as RFM did a podcast on, and there's just nothing new in there whatsoever. It's a great ma...

This is very well done. It was interesting to read that Joseph saw Adam.... and Michael in the same vision on Jan. 21, 1835. :o Fortunately my current D&C has edited out that unpleasant contradiction. I was fascinated to learn about Sidney Rigdon declaring Adam as the "Ancient of Days" before Josep...

I feel like the piano player at the whorehouse who worked there until he was 44 years old before he realized what was going on upstairs. Haha... that's a great visual! Even as a believer I never really took Adam and Eve literally, but it still never clicked either that if Adam and Eve weren't liter...

So my wife is pretty faithful LDS. We met this great couple who moved into our neighborhood and we really hit it off. Fast forward a few months and my wife felt "prompted," to start talking about the church. I said that living in Utah they will probably hear it eventually and that she should just l...

Hey! This is a new page after the Tower of Babel one from a week or two ago, so most of this is the same request as the Babel one. :lol: This is meant to be a part of a larger project summarizing key biblical scholarship problems with the Book of Mormon and I think will include Adam and Eve, global ...