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by jfro18
Fri Jan 24, 2020 10:08 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: TBM's and LGT
Replies: 7
Views: 190

Re: TBM's and LGT

You can’t rationally think through any of this with TBM’s when they have to work backwards from the belief that it’s all true. That's really the only sentence anyone needs to see. I've had people message/email/tweet at the site about stuff, and the moment I send supporting evidence they move the go...
by jfro18
Thu Jan 23, 2020 9:10 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Dear Spouseman love your mother
Replies: 19
Views: 268

Re: Dear Spouseman love your mother

This is like the stuff my wife gets basically telling her that while I may have forgotten or ignored the covenants I made, she had better not. If it were me I'd reply with "I'll study the BoM with you if you'll study the research I've done that's led me to know it's a fictional story created by Josp...
by jfro18
Tue Jan 21, 2020 12:24 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: If Joseph Smith got it right, then who got it wrong?
Replies: 11
Views: 277

Re: If Joseph Smith got it right, then who got it wrong?

Oddly enough, I still find it a fascinating field of study because it reveals so much about human nature. People exploit others so easily in this field too. In the USA it is a great way to build a family fortune. If you watch South Park, there's an episode called Faith +1 where Cartman starts a Chr...
by jfro18
Tue Jan 21, 2020 10:35 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: If Joseph Smith got it right, then who got it wrong?
Replies: 11
Views: 277

Re: If Joseph Smith got it right, then who got it wrong?

Back to jfro's OP... Medical science is wrong. - All church member healings are the result of priesthood blessings and/or prayers from faithful members. All healings outside of church membership are due to either dumb luck, or the cursings of satan who is playing the long-con by making priesthood b...
by jfro18
Tue Jan 21, 2020 9:49 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: If I could ask them one question . . . Come Follow Me, Week 4
Replies: 9
Views: 246

Re: If I could ask them one question . . . Come Follow Me, Week 4

Surely you can see the pattern here, Moksha. All of the physical evidence for the BoM is so consistently nonexistent that God must have intentionally erased it for the benefit of our faith. Thank goodness He left NHM for those of us who are credibility-challenged to cling to with the last stubborn ...
by jfro18
Tue Jan 21, 2020 9:43 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Changes For Temple Ceremonial Clothing Announced
Replies: 18
Views: 545

Re: Changes For Temple Ceremonial Clothing Announced

So now that the pictures are out.. is it really much different? I have not been in a while, but it seems like the robes are maybe a tiny bit simpler?
by jfro18
Mon Jan 20, 2020 2:44 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: If Joseph Smith got it right, then who got it wrong?
Replies: 11
Views: 277

If Joseph Smith got it right, then who got it wrong?

I feel like I've posted this before, but I searched and couldn't find anything so I'll post again and assume I am not going crazy. But we often look at where Joseph Smith got it wrong, because that's obviously how you evaluate someone's works as a prophet/leader/etc. For fun though, let's assume Jos...
by jfro18
Mon Jan 20, 2020 2:25 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Shout out and Thank You to jfro18!
Replies: 8
Views: 253

Re: Shout out and Thank You to jfro18!

Jfro I don’t know where you find the time or desire to do this but will echo graey’s kudos. It is really cathartic to do... because I can't actually *talk* to anyone here about any of this since my wife will not listen and my non-Mormon friends just think it's both hilarious and insane. So the litt...
by jfro18
Mon Jan 20, 2020 2:23 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Shout out and Thank You to jfro18!
Replies: 8
Views: 253

Re: Shout out and Thank You to jfro18!

I just saw this - thank you! I hadn't had time the last few months because of work, but had a few slow days this past week and figured I'd try cranking some stuff out. One day I'll get to my bigger project for the site, but for now just going to roll with some short blog posts until work hits the sl...
by jfro18
Mon Jan 20, 2020 2:19 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: The Lord Knows Us
Replies: 13
Views: 294

Re: The Lord Knows Us

You could tell a bunch of stories of members struggling who asked for a priesthood blessing, die anyway, and then say that the Lord knows us enough to know it was time and no amount of consecrated oil can change that.

But I think your second idea is probably a bit more crowd pleasing.
by jfro18
Sun Jan 19, 2020 9:19 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Tragedy and the Tribe
Replies: 9
Views: 252

Re: Tragedy and the Tribe

A lifelong friend of mine passed away last night from a pretty aggressive cancer... he was 39 and leaves behind a wife a 5 year old kid. You are 100% right that life is too short and we all would be better served to stop worrying as much about the future as the present. I suffer from that all the ti...
by jfro18
Sun Jan 19, 2020 10:45 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Church says it was an "error" that their Come Follow Me manual called the black skin curse a... black skin curse
Replies: 26
Views: 602

Re: Church says it was an "error" that their Come Follow Me manual called the black skin curse a... black skin curse

You get people on discussion blogs who insist it WAS what God wanted because blacks were really fence sitter in the preexistence but that now all those who were fence sitters have been born, so God changed the policy. I was shocked when I found out last year that my brother in law actually believes...
by jfro18
Sat Jan 18, 2020 9:00 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Church says it was an "error" that their Come Follow Me manual called the black skin curse a... black skin curse
Replies: 26
Views: 602

Re: Church says it was an "error" that their Come Follow Me manual called the black skin curse a... black skin curse

Just thinkin'.... The church is so thorough in proofreading it's publications, I'm wondering if this isn't a hatchet job from within where someone at the last moment, just before they went to press, made this change in the text in order to embarrass the church. Forcing the old doctrine into the lig...
by jfro18
Sat Jan 18, 2020 1:50 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Church says it was an "error" that their Come Follow Me manual called the black skin curse a... black skin curse
Replies: 26
Views: 602

Re: Church says it was an "error" that their Come Follow Me manual called the black skin curse a... black skin curse

This one is SOOOO egregious that I am almost forced to bring it up with my TBM family. They are force-feeding the gaslighting now. I want to bring this up SO badly with my wife, but she takes everything I say as a personal attack and it's not worth it. This just feels worse than the normal gaslight...
by jfro18
Sat Jan 18, 2020 7:50 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Church says it was an "error" that their Come Follow Me manual called the black skin curse a... black skin curse
Replies: 26
Views: 602

Church says it was an "error" that their Come Follow Me manual called the black skin curse a... black skin curse

https://www.sltrib.com/religion/2020/01/18/error-printed-lds-church/ The Mormon church is saying that it was an error that they printed in the CFM manuals that the curse of black skin was a literal curse of black skin, even though that's what the Book of Mormon directly says. It's also what Joseph S...
by jfro18
Fri Jan 17, 2020 6:01 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Changes For Temple Ceremonial Clothing Announced
Replies: 18
Views: 545

Re: Changes For Temple Ceremonial Clothing Announced

These appear from the statement to be the most minor of changes, and there's no indication that you need to buy replacements. I am just not sure why they released an official statement and blast email for something like this... and they did it on the same day they released a video about temple cloth...
by jfro18
Fri Jan 17, 2020 12:19 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Brief Entertainment of Mormon Nostalgia
Replies: 5
Views: 210

Re: Brief Entertainment of Mormon Nostalgia

Man... I can not imagine being at an event these days and being told that and not just walking right out the door.

And I think we're the only ones from the Midwest, so we are clearly more righteous than those lazy Utahans! :lol:
by jfro18
Fri Jan 17, 2020 11:09 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Changes For Temple Ceremonial Clothing Announced
Replies: 18
Views: 545

Re: Changes For Temple Ceremonial Clothing Announced

It's been so long since I've gone, but I assume this new video has the new temple clothes? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMutZrefILc It was just released today which would of course be meant to line up with the announcement? Can anyone tell what the differences are? edit: here is description of ch...
by jfro18
Fri Jan 17, 2020 8:56 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: New LDS video on temple clothes and garments
Replies: 2
Views: 154

New LDS video on temple clothes and garments

Interesting to see that the church is now publicly showing the temple clothes and garments in videos. I imagine this is because most people see them being worn which makes them look even more cultish, so this is a soft way to present them to the public. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMutZrefILc I ...
by jfro18
Fri Jan 17, 2020 8:54 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Henry Erying's Big Faith
Replies: 16
Views: 447

Re: Henry Erying's Big Faith

It was an excellent write-up, by the way. A great post to start the year off right. I particularly liked your 3rd point, I think it's spot-on - evidence, scientific evidence for all Mormon books of scripture is non-existent or left up to the apologists, and never mentioned from the pulpit. It is te...