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- Fri Jan 08, 2021 2:47 pm
- Forum: The Coffee Shop
- Topic: Graceful Transfer of Power
- Replies: 157
- Views: 3828
Re: Graceful Transfer of Power
The reality is that there was no widespread voter fraud. Your posts are full of things that I would love to address one by one. And we will do that but we will just do them one at a time as I would fill up the internet with that stuff. This fragment of sentence here. Who put you in charge of realit...
- Fri Jan 08, 2021 10:59 am
- Forum: Support
- Topic: Wife dropped a bomb on me
- Replies: 19
- Views: 768
Re: Wife dropped a bomb on me
Congrats! As græy said I was hoping that my wife would realize during COVID that she didn't need the church, but it had the opposite effect which I suppose in hindsight should've been expected. One day I hope to join you, but I don't see it happening so I'll just live vicariously through those of yo...
- Fri Jan 08, 2021 10:54 am
- Forum: The Coffee Shop
- Topic: Graceful Transfer of Power
- Replies: 157
- Views: 3828
Re: Graceful Transfer of Power
enablers? Come on, man, he is our president. This is what want we want from him. The very framework of your mind is insulting. You are merely a river of piss that Joe Biden floats in. I don't mean that, but that is how you guys talk to us. We are not enablers. He is our president. He is a badass an...
- Fri Jan 08, 2021 10:15 am
- Forum: The Coffee Shop
- Topic: Graceful Transfer of Power
- Replies: 157
- Views: 3828
Re: Graceful Transfer of Power
I've been really mad about this the last few days for so many reasons... I spend way more time following politics than I do the church, and my personal twitter account has been fairly involved in politics since 2012... I just can't take some of this anymore. Watching people try to deflect blame from...
- Tue Jan 05, 2021 10:56 am
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Kwaku, FAIRMomon, and terminating Dehlin
- Replies: 62
- Views: 2968
Re: Kwaku, FAIRMomon, and terminating Dehlin
Yes, the data is out there, but you have to dig for it. Most people won't though. When it is good data for the church, it is front and center. when it is not good for the church, they hide it. Why would FAIR be any different? I totally get why they're doing it - I just think anyone who steps back a...
- Fri Jan 01, 2021 9:55 am
- Forum: Support
- Topic: To share your doubts with your children or not, that is the question
- Replies: 18
- Views: 641
Re: To share your doubts with your children or not, that is the question
We have one kid who is now 8... when i went down the rabbit hole 2.5 years ago, I told DW that I'm OK with our kid still going to church but I would also like to be able to teach him lessons about my beliefs. I was clear that my lessons would NOT be to contradict the church, but to teach critical th...
- Tue Dec 29, 2020 12:23 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Kwaku, FAIRMomon, and terminating Dehlin
- Replies: 62
- Views: 2968
Re: Kwaku, FAIRMomon, and terminating Dehlin
If these videos were getting the positive response that FAIR claims they are, they would have comments up or, at the very least, allow for people to give the videos a thumbs up or down. I'm just not sure how you can both claim that these videos are effective both in terms of the audience and view co...
- Fri Dec 25, 2020 10:58 am
- Forum: Support
- Topic: Post your Seasons Greetings here!
- Replies: 20
- Views: 633
Re: Post your Seasons Greetings here!
Merry Christmas to all of you out there... hope your day is a good one. I still enjoy the day even if I view it differently... no reason not to embrace a holiday that is about family and being good to each other even if the underlying story isn't real. 

- Wed Dec 23, 2020 9:14 am
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Has anyone done a list of Joseph's wives and those who lived with him?
- Replies: 10
- Views: 330
Re: Has anyone done a list of Joseph's wives and those who lived with him?
To make it all even more weird, Joseph's aid-de-camp and land agent Joseph Jackson testified that Emma had asked to take a second husband as part of the settlement but that is the request that is rejected in D&C 132 as part of the promise that she would be "destroyed" for not obeying. Of course, we...
- Tue Dec 22, 2020 11:53 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Has anyone done a list of Joseph's wives and those who lived with him?
- Replies: 10
- Views: 330
Re: Has anyone done a list of Joseph's wives and those who lived with him?
By the statement "living with him" are you saying that a number of women lived with Joseph and Emma, with Emma knowing that they were conjugal? The initial intent was to say 'living with him' as in saying that they lived at the Smith house while working there. That includes at least a handful of pe...
- Tue Dec 22, 2020 8:50 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Has anyone done a list of Joseph's wives and those who lived with him?
- Replies: 10
- Views: 330
Re: Has anyone done a list of Joseph's wives and those who lived with him?
I may be misinformed but I thought Emma was the only wife that actually lived with Joseph. I know he had two orphaned sisters that he and Emma cared for for awhile and he ended up marrying one or both but I didn't think they stayed in the Smith home much after that. I probably need to brush up on t...
- Tue Dec 22, 2020 11:46 am
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Has anyone done a list of Joseph's wives and those who lived with him?
- Replies: 10
- Views: 330
Has anyone done a list of Joseph's wives and those who lived with him?
I was listening to the Sunstone History Podcast (which I would argue is a must listen podcast for anyone interested), and they were going through a lot of Joseph's wives and were commenting as it went about how many lived with him. Just wondering if anyone ever put together a list of his wives and w...
- Tue Dec 22, 2020 9:37 am
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Changes to LDS Handbook 2020
- Replies: 6
- Views: 276
Re: Changes to LDS Handbook 2020
This didn't really strike any chord with me. Obviously it's funny to see the church dismiss the things like racism that they still hold in their scriptures, but they've been doing that since 1978 and they will never stop having it both ways there. Hagoth is 100% right on the conspiracy theories. I a...
- Wed Dec 16, 2020 6:26 am
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Church Newsroom Meltdown
- Replies: 33
- Views: 1145
Re: Church Newsroom Meltdown
The Facebook post is here, but comments were turned off which is absolutely hilarious: https://www.facebook.com/groups/churcho ... 792623631/
- Tue Dec 15, 2020 12:52 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Any genetic evidence found of Lehi's migration to America?
- Replies: 17
- Views: 1222
Re: Any genetic evidence found of Lehi's migration to America?
Not one scrap of evidence. Mormons and some of their apologists hold up traces of Near Eastern ancestry in the genomes of individuals like the Anzick Child (Montana) and Kennewick Man (Washington) as evidence of Lehites. The problem is that Anzick died 12,700 years ago and Kennewick died 9,000 year...
- Thu Dec 10, 2020 10:00 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: SLC Trib: "McKenna Denson, LDS Church agree to drop lawsuit"
- Replies: 9
- Views: 721
SLC Trib: "McKenna Denson, LDS Church agree to drop lawsuit"
The whole McKenna Denson episode comes to a very anti-climactic ending as they agree to dismiss the lawsuit with no settlement or agreement.
https://www.sltrib.com/news/2020/12/10/ ... ds-church/
https://www.sltrib.com/news/2020/12/10/ ... ds-church/
- Thu Dec 10, 2020 9:58 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Kwaku, FAIRMomon, and terminating Dehlin
- Replies: 62
- Views: 2968
Re: Kwaku, FAIRMomon, and terminating Dehlin
Do you mind if I use the quote from FAIR in a write-up I was doing? Obviously I won't cite it to anyone but just note that it was a generic FAIR response... I think it's really fitting to what they're attempting to do here. Since it was a personal conversation I would rather that you don't use dire...
- Thu Dec 10, 2020 7:14 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Kwaku, FAIRMomon, and terminating Dehlin
- Replies: 62
- Views: 2968
Re: Kwaku, FAIRMomon, and terminating Dehlin
So I got another response from FAIR. This response is crazy - it feels like one of those "you said the quiet part out loud" kind of responses. They might be seeing high view counts in these videos, but I would love to know where they're coming from. The TITS series was trending on reddit's "cringe"...
- Thu Dec 10, 2020 9:59 am
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Kwaku, FAIRMomon, and terminating Dehlin
- Replies: 62
- Views: 2968
Re: Kwaku, FAIRMomon, and terminating Dehlin
Bill Reel and Consiglieri Live, talking about Kwaku and the FAIR Mormon debacle: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwKqcOjJSBg&fbclid=IwAR1edpLDYLdwDVMYsAJqo0ayeyprmgZdScG2ZOVatM8FDL9I55sK00OKf3g Does any know know if they plan o release the recorded audio from this? That would be an interesting podc...
- Wed Dec 09, 2020 3:01 pm
- Forum: Support
- Topic: The irony of being blacklisted
- Replies: 16
- Views: 806
Re: The irony of being blacklisted
Wow that's really incredible. They are aware that they talk about Joseph Smith's extra wives in Saints, right? And I was told Saints is meant for kids as well as adults... although maybe not primary aged kids. What is wrong with telling them that Joseph Smith was celestualizing with other women when...