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by jfro18
Fri Jan 08, 2021 2:47 pm
Forum: The Coffee Shop
Topic: Graceful Transfer of Power
Replies: 157
Views: 3828

Re: Graceful Transfer of Power

The reality is that there was no widespread voter fraud. Your posts are full of things that I would love to address one by one. And we will do that but we will just do them one at a time as I would fill up the internet with that stuff. This fragment of sentence here. Who put you in charge of realit...
by jfro18
Fri Jan 08, 2021 10:59 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Wife dropped a bomb on me
Replies: 19
Views: 768

Re: Wife dropped a bomb on me

Congrats! As græy said I was hoping that my wife would realize during COVID that she didn't need the church, but it had the opposite effect which I suppose in hindsight should've been expected. One day I hope to join you, but I don't see it happening so I'll just live vicariously through those of yo...
by jfro18
Fri Jan 08, 2021 10:54 am
Forum: The Coffee Shop
Topic: Graceful Transfer of Power
Replies: 157
Views: 3828

Re: Graceful Transfer of Power

enablers? Come on, man, he is our president. This is what want we want from him. The very framework of your mind is insulting. You are merely a river of piss that Joe Biden floats in. I don't mean that, but that is how you guys talk to us. We are not enablers. He is our president. He is a badass an...
by jfro18
Fri Jan 08, 2021 10:15 am
Forum: The Coffee Shop
Topic: Graceful Transfer of Power
Replies: 157
Views: 3828

Re: Graceful Transfer of Power

I've been really mad about this the last few days for so many reasons... I spend way more time following politics than I do the church, and my personal twitter account has been fairly involved in politics since 2012... I just can't take some of this anymore. Watching people try to deflect blame from...
by jfro18
Tue Jan 05, 2021 10:56 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Kwaku, FAIRMomon, and terminating Dehlin
Replies: 62
Views: 2968

Re: Kwaku, FAIRMomon, and terminating Dehlin

Yes, the data is out there, but you have to dig for it. Most people won't though. When it is good data for the church, it is front and center. when it is not good for the church, they hide it. Why would FAIR be any different? I totally get why they're doing it - I just think anyone who steps back a...
by jfro18
Fri Jan 01, 2021 9:55 am
Forum: Support
Topic: To share your doubts with your children or not, that is the question
Replies: 18
Views: 641

Re: To share your doubts with your children or not, that is the question

We have one kid who is now 8... when i went down the rabbit hole 2.5 years ago, I told DW that I'm OK with our kid still going to church but I would also like to be able to teach him lessons about my beliefs. I was clear that my lessons would NOT be to contradict the church, but to teach critical th...
by jfro18
Tue Dec 29, 2020 12:23 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Kwaku, FAIRMomon, and terminating Dehlin
Replies: 62
Views: 2968

Re: Kwaku, FAIRMomon, and terminating Dehlin

If these videos were getting the positive response that FAIR claims they are, they would have comments up or, at the very least, allow for people to give the videos a thumbs up or down. I'm just not sure how you can both claim that these videos are effective both in terms of the audience and view co...
by jfro18
Fri Dec 25, 2020 10:58 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Post your Seasons Greetings here!
Replies: 20
Views: 633

Re: Post your Seasons Greetings here!

Merry Christmas to all of you out there... hope your day is a good one. I still enjoy the day even if I view it differently... no reason not to embrace a holiday that is about family and being good to each other even if the underlying story isn't real. :D
by jfro18
Wed Dec 23, 2020 9:14 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Has anyone done a list of Joseph's wives and those who lived with him?
Replies: 10
Views: 330

Re: Has anyone done a list of Joseph's wives and those who lived with him?

To make it all even more weird, Joseph's aid-de-camp and land agent Joseph Jackson testified that Emma had asked to take a second husband as part of the settlement but that is the request that is rejected in D&C 132 as part of the promise that she would be "destroyed" for not obeying. Of course, we...
by jfro18
Tue Dec 22, 2020 11:53 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Has anyone done a list of Joseph's wives and those who lived with him?
Replies: 10
Views: 330

Re: Has anyone done a list of Joseph's wives and those who lived with him?

By the statement "living with him" are you saying that a number of women lived with Joseph and Emma, with Emma knowing that they were conjugal? The initial intent was to say 'living with him' as in saying that they lived at the Smith house while working there. That includes at least a handful of pe...
by jfro18
Tue Dec 22, 2020 8:50 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Has anyone done a list of Joseph's wives and those who lived with him?
Replies: 10
Views: 330

Re: Has anyone done a list of Joseph's wives and those who lived with him?

I may be misinformed but I thought Emma was the only wife that actually lived with Joseph. I know he had two orphaned sisters that he and Emma cared for for awhile and he ended up marrying one or both but I didn't think they stayed in the Smith home much after that. I probably need to brush up on t...
by jfro18
Tue Dec 22, 2020 11:46 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Has anyone done a list of Joseph's wives and those who lived with him?
Replies: 10
Views: 330

Has anyone done a list of Joseph's wives and those who lived with him?

I was listening to the Sunstone History Podcast (which I would argue is a must listen podcast for anyone interested), and they were going through a lot of Joseph's wives and were commenting as it went about how many lived with him. Just wondering if anyone ever put together a list of his wives and w...
by jfro18
Tue Dec 22, 2020 9:37 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Changes to LDS Handbook 2020
Replies: 6
Views: 276

Re: Changes to LDS Handbook 2020

This didn't really strike any chord with me. Obviously it's funny to see the church dismiss the things like racism that they still hold in their scriptures, but they've been doing that since 1978 and they will never stop having it both ways there. Hagoth is 100% right on the conspiracy theories. I a...
by jfro18
Wed Dec 16, 2020 6:26 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Church Newsroom Meltdown
Replies: 33
Views: 1145

Re: Church Newsroom Meltdown

The Facebook post is here, but comments were turned off which is absolutely hilarious: https://www.facebook.com/groups/churcho ... 792623631/
by jfro18
Tue Dec 15, 2020 12:52 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Any genetic evidence found of Lehi's migration to America?
Replies: 17
Views: 1222

Re: Any genetic evidence found of Lehi's migration to America?

Not one scrap of evidence. Mormons and some of their apologists hold up traces of Near Eastern ancestry in the genomes of individuals like the Anzick Child (Montana) and Kennewick Man (Washington) as evidence of Lehites. The problem is that Anzick died 12,700 years ago and Kennewick died 9,000 year...
by jfro18
Thu Dec 10, 2020 10:00 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: SLC Trib: "McKenna Denson, LDS Church agree to drop lawsuit"
Replies: 9
Views: 721

SLC Trib: "McKenna Denson, LDS Church agree to drop lawsuit"

The whole McKenna Denson episode comes to a very anti-climactic ending as they agree to dismiss the lawsuit with no settlement or agreement.

https://www.sltrib.com/news/2020/12/10/ ... ds-church/
by jfro18
Thu Dec 10, 2020 9:58 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Kwaku, FAIRMomon, and terminating Dehlin
Replies: 62
Views: 2968

Re: Kwaku, FAIRMomon, and terminating Dehlin

Do you mind if I use the quote from FAIR in a write-up I was doing? Obviously I won't cite it to anyone but just note that it was a generic FAIR response... I think it's really fitting to what they're attempting to do here. Since it was a personal conversation I would rather that you don't use dire...
by jfro18
Thu Dec 10, 2020 7:14 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Kwaku, FAIRMomon, and terminating Dehlin
Replies: 62
Views: 2968

Re: Kwaku, FAIRMomon, and terminating Dehlin

So I got another response from FAIR. This response is crazy - it feels like one of those "you said the quiet part out loud" kind of responses. They might be seeing high view counts in these videos, but I would love to know where they're coming from. The TITS series was trending on reddit's "cringe"...
by jfro18
Thu Dec 10, 2020 9:59 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Kwaku, FAIRMomon, and terminating Dehlin
Replies: 62
Views: 2968

Re: Kwaku, FAIRMomon, and terminating Dehlin

Bill Reel and Consiglieri Live, talking about Kwaku and the FAIR Mormon debacle: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwKqcOjJSBg&fbclid=IwAR1edpLDYLdwDVMYsAJqo0ayeyprmgZdScG2ZOVatM8FDL9I55sK00OKf3g Does any know know if they plan o release the recorded audio from this? That would be an interesting podc...
by jfro18
Wed Dec 09, 2020 3:01 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: The irony of being blacklisted
Replies: 16
Views: 806

Re: The irony of being blacklisted

Wow that's really incredible. They are aware that they talk about Joseph Smith's extra wives in Saints, right? And I was told Saints is meant for kids as well as adults... although maybe not primary aged kids. What is wrong with telling them that Joseph Smith was celestualizing with other women when...