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by jfro18
Tue Nov 19, 2024 7:32 am
Forum: Support
Topic: What is the most harmful lie the Church has perpetrated?
Replies: 13
Views: 2105

Re: What is the most harmful lie the Church has perpetrated?

Hagoth wrote: Mon Nov 18, 2024 7:15 pm That you must obey and sacrifice for some guy in Salt Lake City because he has a direct hotline to God.
That's the one right there - the unquestioned obedience is to me the most harmful because IMO it leads to all of those other issues mentioned above.
by jfro18
Sun Jun 23, 2024 7:19 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Families CAN be together forever also means they CAN'T
Replies: 12
Views: 8306

Re: Families CAN be together forever also means they CAN'T

This is one of the teachings that drives me nuts from the outside looking in because once you think of the inverse it really makes God seem like a monster. But while you're in there you will justify it however you want. I remember asking my wife what she thought about knowing I would not be with her ...
by jfro18
Sun Jun 23, 2024 6:01 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Purpose of the Book of Mormon
Replies: 8
Views: 5795

Re: Purpose of the Book of Mormon

You do realize that you're not allowed to the take the church (and it's prophets or scriptures) at their literal meaning, right? ;)
by jfro18
Mon Apr 08, 2024 11:57 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Conspiracy Road Trip: Creationism
Replies: 9
Views: 4407

Re: Conspiracy Road Trip: Creationism

Man that clip of the two women and the one says 'then don't be thinking' about what she heard is just so common and so depressing. And I think most of us have experienced both ourselves thinking that way and then others responding that way to us once we take a step away. I can give a few variations ...
by jfro18
Sun Apr 07, 2024 9:07 am
Forum: Support
Topic: NOMference Spring 2024 Sunday morning!!!
Replies: 69
Views: 26631

Re: NOMference Spring 2024 Sunday morning!!!

Oh my Gods, he changed the dedicatory prayer for a temple to include "think celestial" and said it was a revelation to do so. Jesus take the wheel.... Rasband is one of those guys that just feels like he's always angling to move up to the top so I just take read everything in the worst way, but ...
by jfro18
Sat Apr 06, 2024 1:05 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: The Mormon church is looking to crack down on... garments?!
Replies: 40
Views: 28167

Re: The Mormon church is looking to crack down on... garments?!

I looked into my seer stone last night and am making the following prediction: They will double down on garment wearing this weekend at general conference and they will have a woman do it because they want a woman (who is willing to say what the men wan them to say) to try and get the women of the ...
by jfro18
Sat Apr 06, 2024 10:21 am
Forum: Support
Topic: NOMference Spring 2024 Saturday Morning!!!!!
Replies: 68
Views: 9725

Re: NOMference Spring 2024 Saturday Morning!!!!!

MoPag wrote: Sat Apr 06, 2024 10:20 am Eyring

He's talking from home
It's looking like the older leaders (Nelson, Oaks, Eyring) are unable to be there in person which is interesting... you could have a situation where they all go close together in the not too far off future.
by jfro18
Sat Apr 06, 2024 10:00 am
Forum: Support
Topic: NOMference Spring 2024 Saturday Morning!!!!!
Replies: 68
Views: 9725

Re: NOMference Spring 2024 Saturday Morning!!!!!

https://newsroom.churchofjesuschrist.org/article/2023-statistical-report-church-jesus-christ Looks like a decent number of converts Yeah overall slow and steady growth - about 1.5% overall. I think at some point you can see the data on where the growth is coming from and of course would LOVE to see ...
by jfro18
Sat Apr 06, 2024 9:15 am
Forum: Support
Topic: NOMference Spring 2024 Saturday Morning!!!!!
Replies: 68
Views: 9725

Re: NOMference Spring 2024 Saturday Morning!!!!!

Did I miss any announcement about the 2023 membership statistics? I know they don't read those over the pulpit because there's no time to waste during conference ( :roll: ) but I didn't hear anyone directing people to a website. The membership statistics are the most interesting thing about the ...
by jfro18
Sat Apr 06, 2024 7:19 am
Forum: Support
Topic: NOMference Eve Spring 2024!!
Replies: 5
Views: 1344

Re: NOMference Eve Spring 2024!!

NOMference is the best way to experience GenCon! Looking forward to following along! :D
by jfro18
Fri Apr 05, 2024 11:31 am
Forum: Support
Topic: The Mormon church is looking to crack down on... garments?!
Replies: 40
Views: 28167

Re: The Mormon church is looking to crack down on... garments?!

I looked into my seer stone last night and am making the following prediction: They will double down on garment wearing this weekend at general conference and they will have a woman do it because they want a woman (who is willing to say what the men wan them to say) to try and get the women of the ...
by jfro18
Thu Apr 04, 2024 8:13 am
Forum: Support
Topic: The Mormon church is looking to crack down on... garments?!
Replies: 40
Views: 28167

Re: The Mormon church is looking to crack down on... garments?!

If the church is trying to provide the member with a religious symbol that reminds us of covenants and promises, it could accomplish this in a much different way. The cross is an example. This is it 100000000% The church used to claim they had protective powers and have obviously steered far away ...
by jfro18
Tue Apr 02, 2024 5:47 am
Forum: Support
Topic: The Mormon church is looking to crack down on... garments?!
Replies: 40
Views: 28167

Re: The Mormon church is looking to crack down on... garments?!

Can you provide more details? The article you linked to is pay-walled. Here's the meat of the article: Brace yourselves, nonconforming Latter-day Saint women. Leaders soon will send an updated question to members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints who want to enter one of the faith ...
by jfro18
Mon Apr 01, 2024 7:35 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Returning to the fold
Replies: 7
Views: 1676

Re: Returning to the fold

For a second I thought you were going to have a nice spot on the LDS speaking tour circuit. :lol:
by jfro18
Mon Apr 01, 2024 7:07 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: The Mormon church is looking to crack down on... garments?!
Replies: 40
Views: 28167

The Mormon church is looking to crack down on... garments?!

It's been a bit since I've been around, but I have to say if you're trying to push people out of the church, one way to do that is to try and enforce garment wearing 24/7. https://www.sltrib.com/religion/2024/03/29/lds-church-steps-up-this-message/ From Peggy Fletcher Stack, it was brought up at a ...
by jfro18
Thu Dec 21, 2023 6:56 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Born of a virgin?
Replies: 8
Views: 3673

Re: Born of a virgin?

What's the gist of the podcast? Bart Ehrman goes through how the 'virgin' idea got into the Bible, why it's based on a mistranslation, and then talks a bit about how it's really nowhere else in the Bible and is actually contradicted by Mark/John and I believe he covers briefly that the birth story ...
by jfro18
Sun Dec 17, 2023 10:07 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Born of a virgin?
Replies: 8
Views: 3673

Re: Born of a virgin?

I had never heard about this until last year when I was listening to a podcast about the Christmas story and it's just mind blowing. Even crazier is that a lot of scholars (Bart Ehrman included) believe that the first two chapters of Luke are late additions which really puts the story in Matthew on ...
by jfro18
Mon Nov 13, 2023 8:59 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Elder Ballard has died
Replies: 28
Views: 45513

Re: Elder Ballard has died

I don't think his legacy is altered whatsoever in the minds of believers... they either ignore the Tim Ballard stuff or excuse it. It certainly does make the church's job a lot easier is deflecting any accusations that might come from the Tim Ballard stuff now. And, no, I am NOT implying that they ...
by jfro18
Thu Nov 09, 2023 7:54 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Elder Ballard gives tithing records to Tim Ballard
Replies: 14
Views: 7909

Re: Elder Ballard gives tithing records to Tim Ballard

Or, as the current evidence suggests, MR Ballard called up big tithe payers and convinced them to give to OUR. M Russell was a fundraiser for the private organization, apparently. Yeah that would fit in there nicely too - Ballard used tithing records to find the marks to raise money for Ballard ...
by jfro18
Wed Nov 08, 2023 5:24 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Elder Ballard gives tithing records to Tim Ballard
Replies: 14
Views: 7909

Re: Elder Ballard gives tithing records to Tim Ballard

Church leaders earned their reputation, whatever that reputation might be. “President Ballard has never released tithing records to Operation Underground Railroad or any other organization,” the church spokesman said. The following could be realities that would still make that statement technically ...