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by jfro18
Wed Aug 17, 2022 6:41 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: The Mormon church releases ANOTHER statement going after the AP
Replies: 0
Views: 22

The Mormon church releases ANOTHER statement going after the AP

Well you know this story is really hurting them as they've now released another statement going after the AP for their reporting: https://newsroom.churchofjesuschrist.org/article/church-provides-further-details-about-arizona-abuse-case They give a ton of bullet points about what the help line does y...
by jfro18
Thu Aug 11, 2022 11:34 am
Forum: Support
Topic: No more “tithing settlement…”
Replies: 22
Views: 412

Re: No more “tithing settlement…”

This is so stupid.

Home teaching to ministering... excommunication to withdrawal of membership... tithing settlement to tithing declaration...

These are the self-proclaimed prophets of the final days and this is the best they can do. And people eat it up.

(I'm overly cynical today, clearly)
by jfro18
Fri Aug 05, 2022 4:53 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Church Statement on AP article - training of those who work with children?
Replies: 12
Views: 279

Re: Church Statement on AP article - training of those who work with children?

The way they've handled the response has been absolutely ridiculous.

Check out this Twitter thread on how they redid their first statement because ONE comment got in and then it actually got worse after that.

https://twitter.com/j_n_foster/status/1 ... 7135349763

They are cowards.
by jfro18
Fri Aug 05, 2022 11:12 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Church Statement on AP article - training of those who work with children?
Replies: 12
Views: 279

Re: Church Statement on AP article - training of those who work with children?

I am 99% sure it is an online course you take that guides you through some videos and slides to tell you what to look for.

There are no background checks and there is (as far as I know) no personal training where you're with the church's officials in a true "training" scenario.
by jfro18
Thu Aug 04, 2022 9:26 am
Forum: Support
Topic: “By their fruits ye shall know them.” (Matt. 7:20) - Seven years of sex abuse: How Mormon officials let it happen
Replies: 27
Views: 689

Re: “By their fruits ye shall know them.” (Matt. 7:20) - Seven years of sex abuse: How Mormon officials let it happen

Yep. Funny how choose the right, let the consequence follow turns into call the lawyers and protect the dudes when it's the church that needs to do the right thing.

Reading this article as I'm in a plane and trying not to gasp out loud. This is insane.
by jfro18
Sun Jul 31, 2022 8:30 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Feel Injured->Desire Vengeance->Soothe
Replies: 16
Views: 532

Re: Feel Injured->Desire Vengeance->Soothe

This is a great thread and one that i think everyone experiences to a very large degree because when we leave there are always family/friends/community that will blame us for leaving. Linked's example is also a great one because for me I feel like I was cut off by the church and thus slammed my brak...
by jfro18
Fri Jul 22, 2022 5:06 pm
Forum: The Coffee Shop
Topic: "Joseph Smith and the Mormons" Graphic Novel
Replies: 3
Views: 161

Re: "Joseph Smith and the Mormons" Graphic Novel

Please return and report, Ghost. The sample in the article is pretty powerful: https://www.sltrib.com/resizer/U4X_BAr-eKbRR1rgjCLUpjF0uWI=/1024x650/cloudfront-us-east-1.images.arcpublishing.com/sltrib/TECVK4MBTVEJ3PXSE63EZGZEQY.jpg Wow... that's quite a visual and I really want to hear how this is ...
by jfro18
Fri Jul 22, 2022 4:42 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Photo of Joseph Smith
Replies: 7
Views: 422

Re: Photo of Joseph Smith

https://i.redd.it/v69221blt0d91.png Helen Mar Kimball on her wedding day to Joseph. To say this triggers TBM is an understatement, but at some point people need to look at that photo and be OK with it. i mean if it's from God, be PROUD that Joseph had the balls to marry two 14 year olds... don't ge...
by jfro18
Sun Jul 17, 2022 7:56 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Priesthood is just...
Replies: 25
Views: 947

Re: Priesthood is just...

You are 100% correct and I regret to inform you I will be stealing this idea for future references to the priesthood. What a simple, easy to understand way to frame what priesthood power actually is.
by jfro18
Tue Jul 12, 2022 12:04 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Supporting our own
Replies: 57
Views: 4255

Re: Supporting our own

Jfro18, Did you do a podcast last week? I have not seen anything show up on the Mormon Stories feed in my podcast app that sounds like your series. Weird - I don't know why it's not on their feed, but Global Flood was last week. It's on Youtube for now @ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSwo7el7pY0&...
by jfro18
Sat Jul 09, 2022 10:19 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Crazy lawsuit idea
Replies: 4
Views: 315

Re: Crazy lawsuit idea

I would assume that churches get such leeway that they could fight it forever under the premise that they have a structure that allows for change with time? It would be fun to see play out, but I can't imagine you'd get far without spending an insane amount of money just because it feels like religi...
by jfro18
Mon Jul 04, 2022 6:41 pm
Forum: The Coffee Shop
Topic: Trump & Church
Replies: 19
Views: 953

Re: Trump & Church

Trump should probably go to jail but I dispute that Mormons as a whole support him. That seems to be the mantra of those who dislike the church to put the majority of believers in Utah into the Trump camp. Some do but there are many more liberal members I think who dislike him. From a polling persp...
by jfro18
Mon Jul 04, 2022 6:38 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Source Says There Is Disarray Among the Q15
Replies: 29
Views: 1484

Re: Source Says There Is Disarray Among the Q15

I think John does have some well placed sources in the COB. Yeah I have no doubt that he does. I have had a few (not many) people give me some interesting info from the website and I'm a nobody... John would clearly get info from those who would have way better access. That said, I think you also n...
by jfro18
Wed Jun 29, 2022 2:01 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Source Says There Is Disarray Among the Q15
Replies: 29
Views: 1484

Re: Source Says There Is Disarray Among the Q15

I always take these things with a grain of salt. The source may very well work for the church, but even then you don't know exactly what it means. The bits I saw were that the "disarray" is over social issues and the secondary source mentioned that temple attendance is so low that the temple dept do...
by jfro18
Tue Jun 28, 2022 8:41 am
Forum: Support
Topic: WML - Are you in town this weekend?
Replies: 13
Views: 573

Re: WML - Are you in town this weekend?

It's frustrating when people try to build a case for you to accept their request for something before they even ask. I could stomach having the missionaries over, but not when the WML tries to metaphorically corner me into it. Not to mention all the mormons in my life trying to inoculate my kids ag...
by jfro18
Fri Jun 24, 2022 8:23 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Supporting our own
Replies: 57
Views: 4255

Re: Supporting our own

On thing I have noticed that I appreciate very much, is how you temper the expectations of the material you are highlighting. For example, you keep talking about how Joseph didn't "plagiarize" from the Late War and View of the Hebrews, but it was in the same worldview and milieu he was working in. ...
by jfro18
Mon Jun 20, 2022 3:29 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Baptized my Son
Replies: 6
Views: 360

Re: Baptized my Son

Sounds like it went as well as could be expected which is a great thing. And if you were able to get through it OK and maintain the good place you're in then definitely worth it and I'm just happy there were no surprises and/or unexpected issues in the process. :D
by jfro18
Mon Jun 20, 2022 10:51 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Supporting our own
Replies: 57
Views: 4255

Re: Supporting our own

You talk rather fast. That's ok.. not a condemnation or suggestion to slow down, just an observation. You obviously process information very quickly, or at least this information. Yeah I definitely need to work on that. :) A big part of the reason is that we did a lot of episodes in a short time so...
by jfro18
Sat Jun 18, 2022 9:12 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Evolution essay
Replies: 10
Views: 769

Re: Evolution essay

This essay is 8 paragraphs of absolutely nothing but to try and spin you around so much you don't even know where you began. Hagoth summer it up perfectly though - the church *used* to take a stand on everything but now they take a stand on nothing because they've been proven wrong at just about eve...
by jfro18
Sat Jun 18, 2022 9:00 am
Forum: Support
Topic: "Keep Sweet" or I will break you.
Replies: 25
Views: 2079

Re: "Keep Sweet" or I will break you.

I watched it. I both enjoyed and was disgusted while watching. Why would watching this be a problem for your wife? It didn't feel anti-LDS at all. Only anti-FLDS, anti-polygamy, and anti-Warren Jeffs. Maybe I'm too removed to see a problem. Just curious. My thinking is that if I watch it she will t...