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by Angel
Sun Sep 06, 2020 9:19 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Cutting ties
Replies: 12
Views: 691

Re: Cutting ties

Thank you!! Chatting with someone else who had recently left and was still in the dark stages of it all... I did not want to go back there, but knew it might be helpful to them if I let my mind remember what it was like.... Part of me wants to get out of all the ex-mo groups, never admit having ever...
by Angel
Sun Sep 06, 2020 9:14 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Prayer Why Bother
Replies: 16
Views: 565

Re: Prayer Why Bother

I don't know what I believe any more, or who / if god exists etc. To me, if god exists, and appears to be silent, I guess that means we are supposed to take ownership and responsibility for ourselves, rather than relying on god. so... live without desires, "not my will but thine" be done. Accept whe...
by Angel
Sun Sep 06, 2020 9:06 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Prayer Why Bother
Replies: 16
Views: 565

Re: Prayer Why Bother

Back in college, I took an Intro to World Religions class. One thing I remember from the section on Buddhism is that Buddhist will pray as part of their religion. That always confused me. If prayer is a supplication to the higher power of the universe, and Buddhism is a religion of reincarnation, n...
by Angel
Sat Aug 29, 2020 6:57 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Cutting ties
Replies: 12
Views: 691

Re: Cutting ties

Conversation was short and simple with the hubby, he is out too (just not formally resigned).

I feel at peace, lucky this transition is going smoothly.
by Angel
Sat Aug 29, 2020 6:54 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Just a reminder - you are better off without "Families are Forever"
Replies: 9
Views: 377

Re: Just a reminder - you are better off without "Families are Forever"

Reward/punishment motivational systems inherantly cater to selfish/lower survival instincts. The more noble/higher motivational reasoning comes not from reward/punishment, but a pure love of goodness and progression. The difference between those disciples who followed Jesus because they wanted free ...
by Angel
Fri Aug 21, 2020 6:31 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Cutting ties
Replies: 12
Views: 691

Re: Cutting ties

The deed is done. We'll see how long it takes. Here's to new beginnings, happy Friday everyone!! Congrats Angel! I'm sure it will be nice to not have that in the back of your mind. How did you end up doing it? Simple quick email to the bishop. He responded wanting to meet, I replied there was no ne...
by Angel
Fri Aug 21, 2020 10:28 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Cutting ties
Replies: 12
Views: 691

Re: Cutting ties

The deed is done. We'll see how long it takes.
Here's to new beginnings, happy Friday everyone!!
by Angel
Tue Aug 18, 2020 7:26 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Cutting ties
Replies: 12
Views: 691

Cutting ties

so, changes at home (kid now gone to college), have urged me to make changes too. Time for a new chapter. Time to officially cut ties. Questions: What is the simplest, quiet way to do this? I'm not going to write any long letters or anything, just a simple one sentence, "please remove my records" wi...
by Angel
Sat Aug 08, 2020 6:44 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: JST Q&A article with McGee & MacKay
Replies: 11
Views: 510

Re: JST Q&A article with McGee & MacKay

https://www.fromthedesk.org/producing-ancient-scripture/ If Smith’s introduction to the Joseph Smith Translation had said that all the changes were a result of direct revelation, ... Did JS call it the JST? Seems like the name of the thing - "translation" - implies revelation? If not, then anything...
by Angel
Sat Aug 08, 2020 6:38 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: What’s your most prized possession?
Replies: 14
Views: 496

Re: What’s your most prized possession?

My kids - although I guess I do not "own" my kids. Health, time, meaningful work.
by Angel
Thu Jul 30, 2020 2:01 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: God vs Evolution vs middle land
Replies: 20
Views: 821

Re: God vs Evolution vs middle land

... I trust that If there is a God worthy of worship, that they’ll have no concern that I was not able to believe in an extremely extraordinary claim about their existence without evidence. .... I agree - if there is a God, has to be loving/merciful/just, or there is no point to any of it. If there...
by Angel
Thu Jul 30, 2020 1:55 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: An email sent by a UT Stake President about "Cancel Culture"
Replies: 18
Views: 1024

Re: An email sent by a UT Stake President about "Cancel Culture"

What was in the rest of the email? Did it mention how the Lamanites had more loving families "their husbands love their wives, and their wives love their husbands" and in the end the Nephites were raping people and practicing horrific forms of cannibalism?

Really disturbing :(
by Angel
Wed Jul 01, 2020 12:21 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: What’s the future of anti-Mormonism look like?
Replies: 36
Views: 2233

Re: What’s the future of anti-Mormonism look like?

I'm late to the thread, but good thread! BLM has re-opened discussions on racism within the church, at least within my newsfeed. Mama-Dragons/LGBTQ, feminists - more independent working single moms realizing priesthood isn't a protection, isn't a support. I think moving fwd, people crave healthy com...
by Angel
Sun May 17, 2020 7:03 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: If I could ask them one question . . . Come Follow Me, Lesson 20
Replies: 7
Views: 393

Re: If I could ask them one question . . . Come Follow Me, Lesson 20

I was listening to an interesting podcast the other day on Taoism - a little unrelated, but the host values modern day translations and interpretations of the book more than the original, and actually discouraged digging backwards into trying to find the original text which I found fascinating. Thei...
by Angel
Sun May 17, 2020 7:03 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: If I could ask them one question . . . Come Follow Me, Lesson 20
Replies: 7
Views: 393

Re: If I could ask them one question . . . Come Follow Me, Lesson 20

I was listening to an interesting podcast the other day on Taoism - a little unrelated, but the host values modern day translations and interpretations of the book more than the original, and actually discouraged digging backwards into trying to find the original text which I found fascinating. Thei...
by Angel
Sun May 17, 2020 6:33 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Looks like I'll be doing my "Home Study" after all...
Replies: 29
Views: 2299

Re: Looks like I'll be doing my "Home Study" after all...

Really - the only possible things to teach kids are the things that come from the Church, and in all the world there are no viable alternatives? If we don't teach them from Church manuals, what else could we possibly use? Nothing? Sometimes the world of Mormonism is a small, shallow world, that has...
by Angel
Sun May 17, 2020 6:27 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Looks like I'll be doing my "Home Study" after all...
Replies: 29
Views: 2299

Re: Looks like I'll be doing my "Home Study" after all...

deacon blues wrote:
Mon Jan 07, 2019 5:18 pm
To help kids, find some books from the library about Lincoln, Jefferson, Edison, Elanor Roosevelt, the Wright Brothers, etc.
That was my first thought - study examples of real people who made positive contributions.
by Angel
Wed Apr 08, 2020 5:17 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Did Oaks really say that?
Replies: 39
Views: 3780

Re: Did Oaks really say that?

Oaks strikes again !!!!! For him to suggest that I brought on myself my physically abusive, emotionally abusive , sexual abuser alcoholic parents on myself because I was not as valiant in the pre existence as I should have been is total Bullshit !!!!!!! This hurt very bad as I'm sure he likes it to...
by Angel
Fri Apr 03, 2020 9:04 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Germaphobe Cougherence
Replies: 7
Views: 547

Re: Germaphobe Cougherence

MoPag wrote:
Fri Apr 03, 2020 9:02 am
I will be watching and running the NOMferencce threads. You'll hear about if for sure!!! :D
let the manipulation games begin... ugh... thankful for anyone who can make us all laugh about it.
by Angel
Fri Apr 03, 2020 8:57 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Germaphobe Cougherence
Replies: 7
Views: 547

Germaphobe Cougherence

Anyone here being forced to watch it with TBM fam? Those of us not watching would love to see your keep jumping off the cliff notes.

Any prophetic predictions? False hopes, broken promises?