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by Yobispo
Tue Sep 22, 2020 2:17 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: General Konference Predictions
Replies: 23
Views: 570

Re: General Konference Predictions

I remember the days of hoping for some big revelation coming out at conference. It was the last days and all. Surely the prophet would have some vital proclamation to make. Now I predict he will say nothing of any real value to mankind other than confirming to live a christ like life. Which does no...
by Yobispo
Thu Sep 10, 2020 10:22 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Another blow to John Gee
Replies: 9
Views: 567

Re: Another blow to John Gee

I've been browsing and occasionally commenting on some faithful reddit boards, and it astounds me how much they defend John Gee and his work, and claim that Jana is "out to get him" and had a nefarious hand in getting his book pulled from Deseret Book and the BYU religious centre. Lest we forget, J...
by Yobispo
Tue Sep 08, 2020 12:08 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Is anyone talking about the new proclamation?
Replies: 31
Views: 1154

Re: Is anyone talking about the new proclamation?

I think we'll find out how important it is to the leadership by how much they reference it in the next GC Show.
by Yobispo
Tue Sep 08, 2020 12:04 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: New biblical scholarship overview on Adam and Eve with Mormonism - looking for feedback
Replies: 4
Views: 161

Re: New biblical scholarship overview on Adam and Eve with Mormonism - looking for feedback

Your work is incredible and you know I'm a huge fan. Kinda funny, but as I was reading the intro it struck me that Mormonism claims not only a literal Garden and Adam/Eve, and a literal 6,000 year timelines - but it also literally happened in MO. Add the Jesus visit to the Americas and the literal c...
by Yobispo
Tue Sep 01, 2020 8:53 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Shared temple rituals
Replies: 4
Views: 239

Re: Shared temple rituals

Oh NO Ross & Carrie is a fun podcast. I'm sure you've heard their episodes where they take the lessons and join the church. They were respectful and went along, it was very entertaining.
by Yobispo
Thu Aug 27, 2020 8:57 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Temple changes
Replies: 35
Views: 1435

Re: Temple changes

Exactly which God skill does God use to read the names on the rolls of the temple? Is this omnipresence? Is it Omni-knowledge? Does someone still print out on paper and cut the names into strips ow will they now just slide a thumb drive or iPad into the pouch? Which begs the question, if God can so...
by Yobispo
Tue Aug 25, 2020 8:07 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: My wife got flowers from her dead father, c/o her TBM sister
Replies: 10
Views: 285

Re: My wife got flowers from her dead father, c/o her TBM sister

Thanks friends. Needed to rant. The culture can be so incredibly hurtful sometimes.
by Yobispo
Mon Aug 24, 2020 4:56 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: My wife got flowers from her dead father, c/o her TBM sister
Replies: 10
Views: 285

Re: My wife got flowers from her dead father, c/o her TBM sister

Ugh. I hope this doesn't cause your wife too much angst. I haven't received any proxy gifts from dead relatives, but I did get the "Your dead parent is disappointed" when some of my immediate family finally figured out I had given up on all things COJCOLd$. I just ignored that comment. I tell mysel...
by Yobispo
Mon Aug 24, 2020 3:18 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: My wife got flowers from her dead father, c/o her TBM sister
Replies: 10
Views: 285

My wife got flowers from her dead father, c/o her TBM sister

This sister is very, very TBM to the point of fanaticism. While she has been kind to DW since our exit from TSCC in 2016, the relationship has that familiar strain which comes with the famous TBM sad, disappointed face. It started with a phone call from the sister, claiming a very special spiritual ...
by Yobispo
Thu Aug 20, 2020 3:01 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: New RFM podcast - John Gee Comes Clean - BoA apologetics are being obliterated lately
Replies: 5
Views: 309

Re: New RFM podcast - John Gee Comes Clean - BoA apologetics are being obliterated lately

I had to listen to it as soon as it dropped. Our homeboy RFM is not letting these guys off the hook. RFM is a very unique blend - he has an aptitude for detail and argument, a great memory and he's organized in his delivery. He's a nightmare for FAIR.
by Yobispo
Mon Aug 17, 2020 3:14 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: New Mormon Stories/RFM interview with Egyptologist Robert Ritner
Replies: 71
Views: 2751

Re: New Mormon Stories/RFM interview with Egyptologist Robert Ritner

I listened to part of that Gee PGP video while I was grocery shopping... Can you please share a link with us? All this time I didn't even know there was a Pearl of Great Price Central! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5zdKRLQV-8 I only made it about 20-25 minutes or so in before I was home and had ...
by Yobispo
Sun Aug 09, 2020 12:50 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: New Mormon Stories/RFM interview with Egyptologist Robert Ritner
Replies: 71
Views: 2751

Re: New Mormon Stories/RFM interview with Egyptologist Robert Ritner

not that Gee is EVER going to go on a show with his former mentor as much as I'd kill to see it. It really doesn't seem like that much to ask from people whose purpose in life is to defend the truth, does it? Running away from such a wonderful missionary opportunity might suggest that what they are...
by Yobispo
Fri Aug 07, 2020 8:37 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: New Mormon Stories/RFM interview with Egyptologist Robert Ritner
Replies: 71
Views: 2751

Re: New Mormon Stories/RFM interview with Egyptologist Robert Ritner

Is it possible that the church will remove the facsimiles from the BoA at some point? Really, these are the easiest targets indicating that JS made it all up. I think they might, but gradually. Since more and more people read scriptures online the church can make small, incremental changes. They wi...
by Yobispo
Wed Aug 05, 2020 12:06 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: New Mormon Stories/RFM interview with Egyptologist Robert Ritner
Replies: 71
Views: 2751

Re: New Mormon Stories/RFM interview with Egyptologist Robert Ritner

I have the 2nd part going right now and the beginning of it is an absolutely perfect takedown of the John Gee podcast last week. Holy hell is that brutal. And the voices are all correct so whatever happened last week is fixed. Dehlin is no longer possessed by a demon. This is the apologist beat-dow...
by Yobispo
Mon Jul 13, 2020 9:04 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Purpose of D&C
Replies: 6
Views: 322

Re: Purpose of D&C

What is the purpose of the D&C today? It was meant as a place for revelations in the early days, but has not been updated with “revelations” in years. Why is this? Why hasn’t the D&C been kept updated? Case in point: the WoW. The WoW doctrine is so inconsistent and so scattered across the place tha...
by Yobispo
Mon Jul 13, 2020 8:59 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Secret Mormon Meetings of 1922
Replies: 31
Views: 1338

Re: Secret Mormon Meetings of 1922

I did have a hard time with John's gaslighting rant at the end, though, that "they know the problems and they're hiding it and gaslighting us," and oh the carnage! Lookit, I think it's much more nuanced than that. If my lovely wife, whose only motive in ignoring church history and the problems that...
by Yobispo
Wed Jul 08, 2020 9:06 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: My Interview with Brian Hauglid is Up!
Replies: 37
Views: 1470

Re: My Interview with Brian Hauglid is Up!

I wonder if the Q15 know how precarious the church activity of people like him is. Finally, I find it funny when The Interpreter publishes articles critical of the scholars, especially when those scholars are being paid by the church to do what the church wants them to do. The church appears to me ...
by Yobispo
Tue Jul 07, 2020 3:08 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Grant Palmer's non-believing GA revealed
Replies: 31
Views: 1914

Re: Grant Palmer's non-believing GA revealed

I have lots of conflicting opinions on this. Busche was a paid GA for a career and if he knew it was all BS then I don't have much sympathy for his privacy. He was out there encouraging young people to go on missions, bearing testimony and committing the youth to a lifetime of service to a fraud. He...
by Yobispo
Tue May 26, 2020 4:44 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Hans and Brigitta Mattson, 2nd and 3rd Witnesses for the 2nd Anointing
Replies: 61
Views: 5694

Re: Hans and Brigitta Mattson, 2nd and 3rd Witnesses for the 2nd Anointing

For hagoth -
I'm setting the over/under at 65% related to GAs.
by Yobispo
Tue May 26, 2020 10:29 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Hans and Brigitta Mattson, 2nd and 3rd Witnesses for the 2nd Anointing
Replies: 61
Views: 5694

Re: Hans and Brigitta Mattson, 2nd and 3rd Witnesses for the 2nd Anointing

18 year old event. Brand new user with a single (albeit repeated) post who accidentally confirms facts that Tom shouldn't have known. I'm Not Buying It, even though that's not my handle. :)