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by Yobispo
Thu Apr 15, 2021 9:22 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Did Netasha Helfer-Parker get Exed?
Replies: 75
Views: 1857

Re: Did Netasha Helfer-Parker get Exed?

This one is particularly baffling. She doesn't bash the church. She doesn't encourage people to leave. Her local leaders haven't tried to engage with her before pushing for a court (I don't care what they call it). Her local leaders aren't local. Church discipline is supposed to originate locally, b...
by Yobispo
Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:31 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: The 2020 numbers
Replies: 34
Views: 1188

Re: The 2020 numbers

Well, if I know the church, and I do know the church, I know that these numbers are fudged in some way. The real question is: how fudged are they? My personal experience is that I know of far more resignations in my social circle this year than any other year since my disaffection in 2012. Covid to...
by Yobispo
Tue Mar 23, 2021 4:41 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Another Lawsuit
Replies: 13
Views: 544

Re: Another Lawsuit

At some point one of these suits will stick. If it was anything other than religion, the fraudulent company in question would be settling suits, going out of business or hopefully changing their ways. But for some reason in this country you can lie and steal in the name of freedom of religion. Bear ...
by Yobispo
Tue Mar 23, 2021 2:08 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: General Konference Predictions
Replies: 52
Views: 2261

Re: General Konference Predictions

Word on the street is the Pear of Great Price is getting a make-over. New headings above chapters, and possibly adding the family proclamation as "scripture". Complete word of mouth speculations. Really hope they do not completely entrench themselves against the LGBTQ community by canonizing the fa...
by Yobispo
Wed Mar 03, 2021 2:34 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: General Konference Predictions
Replies: 52
Views: 2261

Re: General Konference Predictions

2 things they won't mention at all:
1. The essays
2. Mark Hofmann
by Yobispo
Thu Feb 25, 2021 2:34 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Netflix doco - Murder amoung the Mormons
Replies: 37
Views: 1927

Re: Netflix doco - Murder amoung the Mormons

I generally think that most Mormons will consider this movie to be spiritual pornography. As interesting as it might be, there's virtually no way for believers to have a good feeling about this even if the actual bomber was caught and put in prison for life. "spiritual pornography" - I hate that te...
by Yobispo
Wed Feb 17, 2021 4:51 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: John Gee and the GAEL
Replies: 19
Views: 1133

Re: John Gee and the GAEL

2bizE wrote:
Wed Feb 17, 2021 3:45 pm
I have lost motivation to engage in the BoA and John Gee discussions. Now that I know what I know, it seems like arguing whether the tooth fairy is able to carry only coins or if it can also carry folding money.
Bills only, of course. Duh.
by Yobispo
Tue Jan 19, 2021 6:24 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Nelson Gets Vaccinated
Replies: 20
Views: 1150

Re: Nelson Gets Vaccinated

Yes, I'm glad that they are setting the example. Yes, as 70+ year old folks they need the protection more than a younger person. Yes, the anti-vaxx folks need a smack in the head from Dear Leader. But I can't help this nagging little irritation that they got it first. With all of their resources, in...
by Yobispo
Tue Jan 19, 2021 9:53 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: What is the official story on the fate of the Golden Plates?
Replies: 16
Views: 782

Re: What is the official story on the fate of the Golden Plates?

I tend to buy the argument that Joseph made a set of plates out of tin (or something). Wishful thinking, but I'd love to peek into the 1st Presidency vault and find the ultimate smoking gun - the tin plates.
by Yobispo
Thu Jan 14, 2021 1:35 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Priesthood vs. Energy Healing
Replies: 10
Views: 537

Re: Priesthood vs. Energy Healing

The church also slightly opened the door when they admitted that women used to have some role in healing blessings. To my knowledge, the church never said that women used to be able to be ordained, set people apart or bless for anything other than health, which is what these people are now doing. It...
by Yobispo
Wed Jan 06, 2021 11:44 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: RFM and Peter Bleakley
Replies: 17
Views: 1921

Re: RFM and Peter Bleakley

Charlotte wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 10:48 am
I can’t find episode 4 on YouTube. Could someone link to it? Thanks.
try Peter's Facebook page
by Yobispo
Wed Jan 06, 2021 10:18 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: RFM and Peter Bleakley
Replies: 17
Views: 1921

Re: RFM and Peter Bleakley

I hate it when you guys talk about great podcasts. I have to question my self induced Mormon podcast ban I placed upon myself a few years back and make an exception to listen. What is his end game? To agitate for change from within? What’s caused him to be so vocal and speak out on a known “anti Mo...
by Yobispo
Thu Dec 10, 2020 3:39 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Zygotes on thrones
Replies: 18
Views: 1644

Re: Zygotes on thrones

That's what I was thinking. Wouldn't that be an important piece of knowledge to have? No wishy-washy-ness? But then actual murder is also okay in some circumstances. Laban had to be killed for preserving scriptures, death penalty, burning witches, taking out terrorists, etc. The only really importa...
by Yobispo
Tue Dec 08, 2020 9:58 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Zygotes on thrones
Replies: 18
Views: 1644

Re: Zygotes on thrones

The church's stance on abortion is more nuanced than most members portray. As i remember it, Hinckley said that since we don't know when the soul enters the body we err on the side of caution. Or similar meaning words. Thus it can be lesser than murder and there are circumstances where it is valid....
by Yobispo
Tue Dec 08, 2020 9:56 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Kwaku, FAIRMomon, and terminating Dehlin
Replies: 76
Views: 5279

Re: Kwaku, FAIRMomon, and terminating Dehlin

The most recent episode of Hidden Brain seems to me to apply to these events. You can find it here: https://hiddenbrain.org/podcast/screaming-into-the-void/ . It deals with the outrage cycle. The way to get attention in our social media world is to be outraged. Using emotion and ridicule get people...
by Yobispo
Mon Dec 07, 2020 10:29 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Zygotes on thrones
Replies: 18
Views: 1644

Re: Zygotes on thrones

The church's stance on abortion is more nuanced than most members portray. As i remember it, Hinckley said that since we don't know when the soul enters the body we err on the side of caution. Or similar meaning words. Thus it can be lesser than murder and there are circumstances where it is valid....
by Yobispo
Mon Dec 07, 2020 10:25 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Kwaku, FAIRMomon, and terminating Dehlin
Replies: 76
Views: 5279

Re: Kwaku, FAIRMomon, and terminating Dehlin

Kwaku also stoked the flames after John brought attention to the threat with stupid comments about John's "grave". My opinion: Kwaku is engaging in parody, but he's missing the key ingredient that parody needs, which is truth. When Thinker put out the fake apology a while back, it was clever. You ca...
by Yobispo
Wed Dec 02, 2020 10:46 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Does anyone have a NHM explainer handy by chance?
Replies: 21
Views: 1552

Re: Does anyone have a NHM explainer handy by chance?

Between Hagoth's point about Comoros and Hamer's point about Nahum, NHM can be dismissed out of hand. If it is a "hit" because of it's similarity to the BoM text, then so are Comoros and Nahum, both of which prove the fraud. Can't have it both ways, but of course, apologists need to have it both ways.
by Yobispo
Thu Nov 26, 2020 12:22 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: RFM Does President Nelson!
Replies: 7
Views: 750

Re: RFM Does President Nelson!

RFM and crew saving lives today!
by Yobispo
Thu Nov 12, 2020 5:16 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Mask wearing at Temple recommend question
Replies: 8
Views: 633

Re: Mask wearing at Temple recommend question

Ha! Adding something to help alleviate virus spread to the temple recommend question would mean that Rusty and the other 14 stooges would actually have to "take a stand" on something during these pandemic times; Besides whining that they weren't able to spread as much guilt and shame via Zoom as th...