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by profit_seizer
Tue Apr 09, 2019 8:24 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Wrapping our identities in the church
Replies: 8
Views: 836

Re: Wrapping our identities in the church

This resonated, hard. DW grew up in Utah with seminary council and Trek and EFY and all the rest. Of course the church is tied up in her identity. (And my having grown up in the <retch> mission field maybe should tell me to extend grace to Mormons and Exmos alike who have been acculturated in ways t...
by profit_seizer
Sun Apr 07, 2019 9:32 am
Forum: Support
Topic: General NOMfrence Sunday morning!!!!
Replies: 97
Views: 5199

Re: General NOMfrence Sunday morning!!!!

I didn't get in here in time to say "-100 from Renlund for valorizing Brigham, settler colonialism, and completely erasing the existence of indigenous people"
by profit_seizer
Tue Mar 05, 2019 3:24 pm
Forum: Mixed Faith Relationships
Topic: Help for TBM-lite spouse?
Replies: 14
Views: 3231

Re: Help for TBM-lite spouse?

Thanks everyone. This really does help. I may not be able to find someone who "gets it" for DW to talk to but at least I'm starting to see more of the picture.
by profit_seizer
Mon Mar 04, 2019 6:49 pm
Forum: Mixed Faith Relationships
Topic: Help for TBM-lite spouse?
Replies: 14
Views: 3231

Re: Help for TBM-lite spouse?

I'd be willing to listen but I seriously don't she'd put in the earbuds for John Dehlin. But if you do remember which ones, at least I'd like to have a listen.
by profit_seizer
Fri Mar 01, 2019 8:54 pm
Forum: Mixed Faith Relationships
Topic: Help for TBM-lite spouse?
Replies: 14
Views: 3231

Re: Help for TBM-lite spouse?

She just feels so lonely. I'm trying to be such a good husband but every time I goof up a little bit it sure feels like it's devastating to her. She doesn't feel like she has anyone to talk to about being an active wife of an exmormon husband. Any advice? Any exmo guys out there who think their acti...
by profit_seizer
Sun Jan 06, 2019 6:48 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Oh NOM Hear the Words of my Mouth
Replies: 16
Views: 1468

Re: Oh NOM Hear the Words of my Mouth

So I don't think my own DW really buys the narrative of all this *gestures at the clusterf**k that is Mormon theology* but she's doubling down too, I think because my departure makes her scared for various other reasons. Solidarity, everyone.
by profit_seizer
Sun Dec 16, 2018 1:20 pm
Forum: Mixed Faith Relationships
Topic: Help for TBM-lite spouse?
Replies: 14
Views: 3231

Re: Help for TBM-lite spouse?

Well this morning I thought I'd surprise DW by coming with everyone to church, but it turns out that made her upset (the reasoning being that if I can come to church to be with them sometimes, does that mean when I don't come I *don't* want to be with them?) It's confusing, folks, and I'm still truc...
by profit_seizer
Sat Dec 01, 2018 10:39 pm
Forum: Mixed Faith Relationships
Topic: Help for TBM-lite spouse?
Replies: 14
Views: 3231

Help for TBM-lite spouse?

DW is not a TBM, more like a liberal with a liberal view of the church, but she's really sad that I left the church. Like devastated. She feels really alone. Is there anyone out here who is out of the church and has a good relationship with a spouse who is still in the church? If so please respond a...
by profit_seizer
Mon Oct 08, 2018 12:24 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Social Media Blast Idea
Replies: 2
Views: 450

Re: Social Media Blast Idea

No I get it but also I want my well-meaning but still somehow TBM friends to get out. Once you've tasted the fruit of not going to church, don't you want to share it? :)
by profit_seizer
Sun Oct 07, 2018 9:07 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Social Media Blast Idea
Replies: 2
Views: 450

Social Media Blast Idea

I am pretty miffed about Oaks's talk and the "social media fast" that is going to keep a bunch of TBMs from having exposure to counter-narratives, so I did that bravest of all things and made a poast on reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/exmormon/comments/9m665z/beat_the_social_media_fast_1017_social_...
by profit_seizer
Sat Sep 29, 2018 9:07 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: The Story of My Weird Garment Dream
Replies: 9
Views: 1003

The Story of My Weird Garment Dream

Once upon a time (like 2006 ish?) I was living in The Elms, which is an apartment complex in the South of Campus part of Provo. I was a grad student at BYU. Anyhow, one night, I had a dream. It's pretty light on the details, but it felt like I was being trapped, like my garments were suffocating me....
by profit_seizer
Thu Sep 27, 2018 6:00 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Russell Nelson Rich Guy
Replies: 6
Views: 899

Re: Russell Nelson Rich Guy

1smartdodog wrote:I wonder how the President of the church ranks for wealthiest person in the world. The church being a corporation sole and all, I believe this let’s him legally control all the assets of the church, in theory at least.
And he (like his predecessors) plays the part of rich old white dude to a tee.
by profit_seizer
Thu Sep 27, 2018 12:53 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: After 10 years, I finally did it
Replies: 18
Views: 1701

Re: After 10 years, I finally did it

I also have only one kid left under 8 and have contemplated what I'm going to do and what the fallout will be. It is tempting to just go through the motions to appease everyone. Yeeeeep, I have two under the age of 8 and this is going to be super hard. I think my bishop will let me do the baptism (...
by profit_seizer
Tue Sep 25, 2018 2:06 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Hans and Brigitta Mattson, 2nd and 3rd Witnesses for the 2nd Anointing
Replies: 61
Views: 5683

Re: Hans and Brigitta Mattson, 2nd and 3rd Witnesses for the 2nd Anointing

This makes me wonder: don't we have knowledge of 2nd annointings done in the Nauvoo temple? Do we have records of who received them? I'm guessing Joseph Smith died before he received them but it would be interesting to know if he did, or if it is recorded. It sounded like some people upthread poten...
by profit_seizer
Tue Sep 25, 2018 10:35 am
Forum: Support
Topic: "I have no use for your kings."
Replies: 3
Views: 456

Re: "I have no use for your kings."

"I have no use for your kings." Hellllllllllll yeeeeeeeah! The whole post is fantastic but this is beautiful. We are going to talk about agency, we're going to talk about equality, we're going to talk about God being no respecter of persons, but then we're going to have literal kings in a literal k...
by profit_seizer
Mon Sep 24, 2018 4:16 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: "I already knew it was true"
Replies: 21
Views: 2210

Re: "I already knew it was true"

Yep, this was exactly my experience. Spending all that time looking for a clear answer (here I was in freshman year of BYU, believing I had kinda already had my witness, but doing this as part of Todd Parker's BoM class, and a little worried about going on a mission). Living my whole life trying to ...
by profit_seizer
Sun Sep 23, 2018 10:03 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Hans and Brigitta Mattson, 2nd and 3rd Witnesses for the 2nd Anointing
Replies: 61
Views: 5683

Re: Hans and Brigitta Mattson, 2nd and 3rd Witnesses for the 2nd Anointing

Even (most of) the satanists know that's not good enough by itself!
by profit_seizer
Sat Sep 22, 2018 2:34 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Hans and Brigitta Mattson, 2nd and 3rd Witnesses for the 2nd Anointing
Replies: 61
Views: 5683

Re: Hans and Brigitta Mattson, 2nd and 3rd Witnesses for the 2nd Anointing


Red Ryder wrote:
You HAVE to go listen to the Tom Phillips interview with JD where he tells his experience. It's super long but worth it.

Return and Report!
Just downloaded the... Five episodes?! I'll let you know how it goes.
by profit_seizer
Fri Sep 21, 2018 3:57 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Hans and Brigitta Mattson, 2nd and 3rd Witnesses for the 2nd Anointing
Replies: 61
Views: 5683

Re: Hans and Brigitta Mattson, 2nd and 3rd Witnesses for the 2nd Anointing

If you listen carefully there is a hint about it in the temple endowment about how you are currently anointed "only to become such," but the day may come when you will be called up and anointed with the whole enchilada. I always thought that was supposed to happen in the afterlife, but I guess it m...