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by stealthbishop
Wed Oct 20, 2021 11:17 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Identity
Replies: 12
Views: 476

Re: Identity

I love the new motto of NOM 2.0: A place to love and accept the people who think about and live Mormonism on their own terms. That fits perfectly for DW and I now that we have gone mostly inactive. I still have family that is very orthodox and we still have friends who are orthodox that we are very ...
by stealthbishop
Wed Oct 20, 2021 8:32 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Debate night: RFM vs Midnight Mormoms
Replies: 24
Views: 448

Re: Debate night: RFM vs Midnight Mormoms

Never heard of the Midnight Mormons. I know RFM. I'm surprised that Bill Reel is not with him?
by stealthbishop
Mon Oct 18, 2021 12:19 pm
Forum: The Coffee Shop
Topic: What are you watching right now?
Replies: 26
Views: 3341

Re: What are you watching right now?

DW and I just started The Leftovers on HBO MAX.
by stealthbishop
Mon Oct 18, 2021 11:17 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: John Larsen and the handcart horror story
Replies: 12
Views: 537

Re: John Larsen and the handcart horror story

OMG! That's horrifying. Even more than usual.
by stealthbishop
Mon Oct 18, 2021 7:57 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Mormon Stories about Chad Daybell
Replies: 6
Views: 254

Re: Mormon Stories about Chad Daybell

WHOA! 5-10 years ago I infiltrated an AVOW FB group. IT. WAS. DISGUSTING. It was so racist it made me want to puke. I was really shocked. Not shocked anymore because these beliefs are somewhat mainstream now. It's white nationalism with a Mormon twist. Probably very much allied and overlapped with D...
by stealthbishop
Mon Oct 18, 2021 7:55 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Mormon Stories about Chad Daybell
Replies: 6
Views: 254

Re: Mormon Stories about Chad Daybell

WHOA! 5-10 years ago I infiltrated an AWOW FB group. IT. WAS. DISGUSTING. It was so racist it made me want to puke. I was really shocked. Not shocked anymore because these beliefs are somewhat mainstream now. It's white nationalism with a Mormon twist. Probably very much allied and overlapped with D...
by stealthbishop
Mon Oct 18, 2021 7:32 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Soaking and Jump Humping in the news
Replies: 18
Views: 600

Re: Soaking and Jump Humping in the news

I'm a little skeptical of jump-humping. Soaking--maybe? Maybe. I first learned about jump-humping (a variation of soaking) from a FB post by LHP. She got some push back on it including some skepticism from me. But she did share that LDS people do have some twisted views on sex that even carry over w...
by stealthbishop
Mon Oct 18, 2021 6:54 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Identity
Replies: 12
Views: 476

Re: Identity

Hey thanks for the feedback everyone. Much appreciated. Reminds me a lot about why I loved and continue to love this place. Identity is an interesting concept. It obviously means different things to different people. The church is actually making it easier in some ways to use the word "Mormon" since...
by stealthbishop
Wed Oct 13, 2021 6:50 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Identity
Replies: 12
Views: 476

Identity

I am having to ask myself some deeper questions and evaluate or re-evaluate my identity. With my wife (who used to be orthodox) now choosing to pull back from the LDS Church it has caused both of us to figure out what we believe and what we don't and re-define who we are and how we communicate that ...
by stealthbishop
Mon Oct 11, 2021 2:00 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: The Progressive Mormon Debate
Replies: 10
Views: 389

Re: The Progressive Mormon Debate

I saw LHP's post on FB too. I didn't know there was a debate recently because I don't really run in ExMo circles. It definitely resonated with me in a similar way to the OP and LHP. Even though we have stepped back from the church, I still don't see myself as an ExMo (or even PostMo) and my wife doe...
by stealthbishop
Sun Oct 10, 2021 8:49 am
Forum: Support
Topic: If you could change a scripture story...
Replies: 4
Views: 240

Re: If you could change a scripture story...

I would change a lot of scripture stories. I would probably change or throw most or all of the Book of Revelation out of the canon. I would change most or all of the Book of Joshua (like the killing of every man, woman, child and animal stuff). Same with BOM story of the killing of Laban. Same with ...
by stealthbishop
Sun Oct 10, 2021 8:32 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Has Elder Uchtdorf lost his Mojo?
Replies: 14
Views: 765

Re: Has Elder Uchtdorf lost his Mojo?

IIRC, his current assignment is on the Missionary Committee, the corporate marketing arm of the church. At that level you have access to the real numbers and know just how poorly things are going. But unlike being the most functional member of the FP, you no longer have the bully pulpit you need to...
by stealthbishop
Wed Oct 06, 2021 3:05 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Has Elder Uchtdorf lost his Mojo?
Replies: 14
Views: 765

Re: Has Elder Uchtdorf lost his Mojo?

moksha wrote:
Wed Oct 06, 2021 1:30 pm
Elder Uchtdorf's mainstream Christianity approach (a kind and loving God) was too avant-garde for the apostles with more seniority. It rankled their feathers.
^THIS^
by stealthbishop
Wed Oct 06, 2021 2:57 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Tithing
Replies: 17
Views: 776

Re: Tithing

I haven't paid tithing in years because my wife paid 10% and I figured that was enough for the both of us. She still has urges to pay tithing even though she has started to distance herself from the church and only attends occasionally now. We'll see how it goes for her. We talked about alternatives...
by stealthbishop
Wed Oct 06, 2021 2:51 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Has Elder Uchtdorf lost his Mojo?
Replies: 14
Views: 765

Re: Has Elder Uchtdorf lost his Mojo?

I voted that he's church broke just like everyone else, and he's clearly been demoted and pushed in the shadows but he's still my favorite for his previous body of work. Yes he's church broke but he did some good work while in the FP.
by stealthbishop
Mon Sep 27, 2021 9:41 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Where Will You Go?
Replies: 12
Views: 619

Re: Where Will You Go?

I was discussing my faith crisis with my pretty understanding TBM mom the other day and I was trying to express the difficulty of being an all-in TBM and then finding out it wasn't true. I even blurted, "Where was I supposed to go?", without realizing what I was saying. Clearly very similar to Elde...
by stealthbishop
Mon Sep 27, 2021 9:36 am
Forum: Support
Topic: The anxious Mormon voice in your head
Replies: 10
Views: 449

Re: The anxious Mormon voice in your head

Yeah, that's a great post RR. Makes it really clear. It's a HIGH DEMAND religion. We went to church this past week and then we had an LDS funeral. It has become so clear to me how bored I was in Sacrament Meetings. I don't think I could admit it to myself until recently. It was always work for me ju...
by stealthbishop
Mon Sep 27, 2021 9:11 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Jeffrey Holland is a terrible human being so it's fitting he gave this talk at BYU
Replies: 68
Views: 4305

Re: Jeffrey Holland is a terrible human being so it's fitting he gave this talk at BYU

In a way, I'm glad this talk was given. E. Holland basically spilled the beans and provided a window into the thinking of the top leaders right now. There can be absolutely no doubt whatsoever where the leadership of the church is at and where it is headed in the near future on LGBTQ+ issues and tha...
by stealthbishop
Mon Sep 20, 2021 2:22 pm
Forum: Mixed Faith Relationships
Topic: I have passed the garment hurdle
Replies: 13
Views: 6218

Re: I have passed the garment hurdle

Congratulations! It's fantastic! I never thought my wife would get rid of hers but she has since 3-4 months ago. Congrats Stealth! You’ve waited patiently for this day to come. I’m still dreaming about the day Sister Ryder ditches her britches. I REALLY hope it happens for you two. I never thought ...
by stealthbishop
Fri Sep 17, 2021 6:07 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Allowing TBM's to save face.
Replies: 3
Views: 469

Re: Allowing TBM's to save face.

I think in some interactions with TBM's when they get irrational in discussions/debates it is a good idea to let them save face. “Build your opponent a golden bridge to retreat across.” Sun Tzu There is merit in giving a defeated enemy an honorable retreat rather than destroying every remaining uni...