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by stealthbishop
Mon Oct 03, 2022 6:39 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Were we all traumatized by being Mormon?
Replies: 16
Views: 283

Re: Were we all traumatized by being Mormon?

Thanks for all your supportive comments and sharing your stories. Very helpful and so appreciated. I'm listening to another episode of Mormons on Mushrooms and the guest is talking about how even the concept in the LDS church of "being unworthy or worthy" is so damaging. Having a leader (always a ma...
by stealthbishop
Wed Sep 28, 2022 3:04 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Were we all traumatized by being Mormon?
Replies: 16
Views: 283

Re: Were we all traumatized by being Mormon?

[But now my wife is out and it looks like all of our children are out. Reading this puts a smile on my face. I hope therapy brings the healing and personal growth you and your family needs. It’s a shame that getting out even causes heartache and anxiety. That’s when you know you were raised in a sy...
by stealthbishop
Wed Sep 28, 2022 12:14 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Were we all traumatized by being Mormon?
Replies: 16
Views: 283

Re: Were we all traumatized by being Mormon?

My mission was traumatic. I had nightmares about having to go back for years. My mom had to have everything be happy and have a silver lining which shaped my entire self and life. I have a lot of trauma from my mission as well. I came home early twice! First time for physical health problems. Once ...
by stealthbishop
Wed Sep 28, 2022 10:45 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Were we all traumatized by being Mormon?
Replies: 16
Views: 283

Re: Were we all traumatized by being Mormon?

It's a weird thought because believing members often laugh at this idea but it is absolutely true that people who leave experience trauma from so many areas not just of being in the church but leaving it. This is so true. Trauma in the church and then the trauma of leaving. So true. We are totally ...
by stealthbishop
Wed Sep 28, 2022 10:00 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Were we all traumatized by being Mormon?
Replies: 16
Views: 283

Re: Were we all traumatized by being Mormon?

I would suggest we’ve all been traumatized by religion in general and not perhaps just because we were raised Mormon. How is your therapist helping you? Curious to understand their approach and ways to overcome these thoughts. I think I need to see a therapist. I still have anger and anxiety issues...
by stealthbishop
Wed Sep 28, 2022 7:05 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Were we all traumatized by being Mormon?
Replies: 16
Views: 283

Were we all traumatized by being Mormon?

I'm listening to the Mormons on Mushrooms podcast today and LHP is on as a guest discussing Mormon identity and intergenerational trauma. With both my wife and myself stepping away from church I am seeing more and more how this trauma has perpetuated through the generations and was woven into the be...
by stealthbishop
Wed Sep 28, 2022 6:50 am
Forum: Support
Topic: "Opportunity to receive personal revelation"
Replies: 9
Views: 263

Re: "Opportunity to receive personal revelation"

What a complete joke. I remember the push back (and perhaps I even perpetuated this myself) that the reason we hear the same stuff over and over and over again is that it's really our fault. We are not sufficiently prepared or worthy, or righteous enough as a people for anything new because we are n...
by stealthbishop
Mon Sep 26, 2022 8:56 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Covenant Confusion: Abraham, dead animals and land grabs
Replies: 8
Views: 193

Re: Covenant Confusion: Abraham, dead animals and land grabs

AdmiralHoldo wrote:
Sat Sep 24, 2022 4:43 pm
It's almost like heart surgeons make lousy theologians.
+1
by stealthbishop
Wed Sep 21, 2022 11:38 am
Forum: Support
Topic: "Noteworthy" loses director to new policy.
Replies: 6
Views: 354

Re: "Noteworthy" loses director to new policy.

https://byumusicgroup.byu.edu/noteworthy/ Unfortunately, the official site of "Noteworthy" while announcing a new director offers no thanks for the services of past director Scott Shattuck. Apparently, Shattuck chose to let his temple recommend lapse, and says he has no plans to renew it. Super sad...
by stealthbishop
Wed Sep 21, 2022 11:31 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Oaks vows BYU will not be part of "the World"
Replies: 24
Views: 556

Re: Oaks vows BYU will not be part of "the World"

I know 2 BYU professors who were terminated in the last couple of weeks, both were getting ready to teach their classes when they were called in. I know one very well and the other just a little bit. I can't get into specifics, but what is clear to me is that they are cleaning house of any prof's w...
by stealthbishop
Wed Sep 21, 2022 6:55 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Demythologizing Mormonism
Replies: 12
Views: 286

Re: Demythologizing Mormonism

I think it's probably a good move for the church to pivot away from church history and living prophets. They can't do it completely obviously but it is much easier to debunk miracles over the past 200 years rather than 2000 years ago. The problem is that at the same time they are toning down the hi...
by stealthbishop
Mon Sep 19, 2022 2:49 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: What did Jesus have to say about...
Replies: 9
Views: 303

Re: What did Jesus have to say about...

My POV about Jesus for what it's worth is that his movement was a peaceful movement otherwise Pilate would have slaughtered his followers and hunted them down at the time of the crucifixion and also afterwards. That's a great point. The gospel writers were obviously kissing up to the Romans by maki...
by stealthbishop
Mon Sep 19, 2022 12:12 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Demythologizing Mormonism
Replies: 12
Views: 286

Re: Demythologizing Mormonism

I think this is an ongoing strategic move by the church. Focus on Jesus because he is much easier to deal with than Joseph Smith and Church History. This is one of the reasons why the church has had so many problems--it emphasized church history way too much and it is way too problematic. They doubl...
by stealthbishop
Mon Sep 19, 2022 11:45 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: What did Jesus have to say about...
Replies: 9
Views: 303

Re: What did Jesus have to say about...

My POV about Jesus for what it's worth is that his movement was a peaceful movement otherwise Pilate would have slaughtered his followers and hunted them down at the time of the crucifixion and also afterwards. They would not have been able to set up a Christian community in Jerusalem after the cruc...
by stealthbishop
Mon Sep 19, 2022 8:38 am
Forum: Support
Topic: YW General President's Misleading Faith Promoting Experience of Her Toddler Grandson's Death
Replies: 28
Views: 1065

Re: YW General President's Misleading Faith Promoting Experience of Her Toddler Grandson's Death

All we know right now is that this child died by homicide (not necessarily murder) i.e., through the actions of another human being. We know the mother was arrested for aggravated child abuse but the charges were dropped. The father was charged by CPS for medical neglect but there were no consequenc...
by stealthbishop
Wed Sep 14, 2022 3:22 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Oaks vows BYU will not be part of "the World"
Replies: 24
Views: 556

Re: Oaks vows BYU will not be part of "the World"

But the thing that stands out most prominently is what he doesn't say. +1 This is exactly what I said to me wife this morning. Look at what the mouthpieces of the Lord DON'T talk about. There are so many problems in this world that are actually serious. Therefore, God doesn't really care about thes...
by stealthbishop
Wed Sep 14, 2022 12:54 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: YW General President's Misleading Faith Promoting Experience of Her Toddler Grandson's Death
Replies: 28
Views: 1065

Re: YW General President's Misleading Faith Promoting Experience of Her Toddler Grandson's Death

I'm numb to most of the crap that the GA's share now (most of the time). But this one really hit me. It really made me angry. The fact that the little child died from child abuse by one of the parents--I just can't seem to let it go. Even though I know that humans will embellish stories and there ar...
by stealthbishop
Wed Sep 14, 2022 12:41 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Joseph Smith and the curse of the flaming sword
Replies: 18
Views: 924

Re: Joseph Smith and the curse of the flaming sword

It's so crazy to realize that I would not have even thought twice about this back in the day. BUT, (for many of us) when you are inside the pill bottle it's difficult to read the label.
by stealthbishop
Wed Sep 14, 2022 12:31 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Oaks vows BYU will not be part of "the World"
Replies: 24
Views: 556

Re: Oaks vows BYU will not be part of "the World"

It's interesting to see both my wife's and my reaction to it. It really shows what stages of transition we are in. My wife is angry about the talk. She was going on a rant about this morning. I totally don't blame her when I think about the damage that is done by these people. For me, I'm just numb ...
by stealthbishop
Wed Sep 07, 2022 2:31 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: YW General President's Misleading Faith Promoting Experience of Her Toddler Grandson's Death
Replies: 28
Views: 1065

Re: YW General President's Misleading Faith Promoting Experience of Her Toddler Grandson's Death

While I sympathize for any grandmother who loses a grandson like that, it is nothing short of bizarre the way that Bonnie Cordon keeps telling the story publicly and leaving the details out. In one telling she told about them trying to take the empty carseat back on the plane and getting a hard tim...