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by stealthbishop
Mon Oct 18, 2021 7:57 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Mormon Stories about Chad Daybell
Replies: 6
Views: 197

Re: Mormon Stories about Chad Daybell

WHOA! 5-10 years ago I infiltrated an AVOW FB group. IT. WAS. DISGUSTING. It was so racist it made me want to puke. I was really shocked. Not shocked anymore because these beliefs are somewhat mainstream now. It's white nationalism with a Mormon twist. Probably very much allied and overlapped with D...
by stealthbishop
Mon Oct 18, 2021 7:55 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Mormon Stories about Chad Daybell
Replies: 6
Views: 197

Re: Mormon Stories about Chad Daybell

WHOA! 5-10 years ago I infiltrated an AWOW FB group. IT. WAS. DISGUSTING. It was so racist it made me want to puke. I was really shocked. Not shocked anymore because these beliefs are somewhat mainstream now. It's white nationalism with a Mormon twist. Probably very much allied and overlapped with D...
by stealthbishop
Mon Oct 18, 2021 7:32 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Soaking and Jump Humping in the news
Replies: 14
Views: 392

Re: Soaking and Jump Humping in the news

I'm a little skeptical of jump-humping. Soaking--maybe? Maybe. I first learned about jump-humping (a variation of soaking) from a FB post by LHP. She got some push back on it including some skepticism from me. But she did share that LDS people do have some twisted views on sex that even carry over w...
by stealthbishop
Mon Oct 18, 2021 6:54 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Identity
Replies: 7
Views: 260

Re: Identity

Hey thanks for the feedback everyone. Much appreciated. Reminds me a lot about why I loved and continue to love this place. Identity is an interesting concept. It obviously means different things to different people. The church is actually making it easier in some ways to use the word "Mormon" since...
by stealthbishop
Wed Oct 13, 2021 6:50 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Identity
Replies: 7
Views: 260

Identity

I am having to ask myself some deeper questions and evaluate or re-evaluate my identity. With my wife (who used to be orthodox) now choosing to pull back from the LDS Church it has caused both of us to figure out what we believe and what we don't and re-define who we are and how we communicate that ...
by stealthbishop
Mon Oct 11, 2021 2:00 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: The Progressive Mormon Debate
Replies: 10
Views: 317

Re: The Progressive Mormon Debate

I saw LHP's post on FB too. I didn't know there was a debate recently because I don't really run in ExMo circles. It definitely resonated with me in a similar way to the OP and LHP. Even though we have stepped back from the church, I still don't see myself as an ExMo (or even PostMo) and my wife doe...
by stealthbishop
Sun Oct 10, 2021 8:49 am
Forum: Support
Topic: If you could change a scripture story...
Replies: 4
Views: 203

Re: If you could change a scripture story...

I would change a lot of scripture stories. I would probably change or throw most or all of the Book of Revelation out of the canon. I would change most or all of the Book of Joshua (like the killing of every man, woman, child and animal stuff). Same with BOM story of the killing of Laban. Same with ...
by stealthbishop
Sun Oct 10, 2021 8:32 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Has Elder Uchtdorf lost his Mojo?
Replies: 14
Views: 735

Re: Has Elder Uchtdorf lost his Mojo?

IIRC, his current assignment is on the Missionary Committee, the corporate marketing arm of the church. At that level you have access to the real numbers and know just how poorly things are going. But unlike being the most functional member of the FP, you no longer have the bully pulpit you need to...
by stealthbishop
Wed Oct 06, 2021 3:05 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Has Elder Uchtdorf lost his Mojo?
Replies: 14
Views: 735

Re: Has Elder Uchtdorf lost his Mojo?

moksha wrote:
Wed Oct 06, 2021 1:30 pm
Elder Uchtdorf's mainstream Christianity approach (a kind and loving God) was too avant-garde for the apostles with more seniority. It rankled their feathers.
^THIS^
by stealthbishop
Wed Oct 06, 2021 2:57 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Tithing
Replies: 17
Views: 745

Re: Tithing

I haven't paid tithing in years because my wife paid 10% and I figured that was enough for the both of us. She still has urges to pay tithing even though she has started to distance herself from the church and only attends occasionally now. We'll see how it goes for her. We talked about alternatives...
by stealthbishop
Wed Oct 06, 2021 2:51 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Has Elder Uchtdorf lost his Mojo?
Replies: 14
Views: 735

Re: Has Elder Uchtdorf lost his Mojo?

I voted that he's church broke just like everyone else, and he's clearly been demoted and pushed in the shadows but he's still my favorite for his previous body of work. Yes he's church broke but he did some good work while in the FP.
by stealthbishop
Mon Sep 27, 2021 9:41 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Where Will You Go?
Replies: 12
Views: 576

Re: Where Will You Go?

I was discussing my faith crisis with my pretty understanding TBM mom the other day and I was trying to express the difficulty of being an all-in TBM and then finding out it wasn't true. I even blurted, "Where was I supposed to go?", without realizing what I was saying. Clearly very similar to Elde...
by stealthbishop
Mon Sep 27, 2021 9:36 am
Forum: Support
Topic: The anxious Mormon voice in your head
Replies: 10
Views: 412

Re: The anxious Mormon voice in your head

Yeah, that's a great post RR. Makes it really clear. It's a HIGH DEMAND religion. We went to church this past week and then we had an LDS funeral. It has become so clear to me how bored I was in Sacrament Meetings. I don't think I could admit it to myself until recently. It was always work for me ju...
by stealthbishop
Mon Sep 27, 2021 9:11 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Jeffrey Holland is a terrible human being so it's fitting he gave this talk at BYU
Replies: 68
Views: 4230

Re: Jeffrey Holland is a terrible human being so it's fitting he gave this talk at BYU

In a way, I'm glad this talk was given. E. Holland basically spilled the beans and provided a window into the thinking of the top leaders right now. There can be absolutely no doubt whatsoever where the leadership of the church is at and where it is headed in the near future on LGBTQ+ issues and tha...
by stealthbishop
Mon Sep 20, 2021 2:22 pm
Forum: Mixed Faith Relationships
Topic: I have passed the garment hurdle
Replies: 13
Views: 6049

Re: I have passed the garment hurdle

Congratulations! It's fantastic! I never thought my wife would get rid of hers but she has since 3-4 months ago. Congrats Stealth! You’ve waited patiently for this day to come. I’m still dreaming about the day Sister Ryder ditches her britches. I REALLY hope it happens for you two. I never thought ...
by stealthbishop
Fri Sep 17, 2021 6:07 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Allowing TBM's to save face.
Replies: 3
Views: 454

Re: Allowing TBM's to save face.

I think in some interactions with TBM's when they get irrational in discussions/debates it is a good idea to let them save face. “Build your opponent a golden bridge to retreat across.” Sun Tzu There is merit in giving a defeated enemy an honorable retreat rather than destroying every remaining uni...
by stealthbishop
Fri Sep 17, 2021 5:53 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Jeffrey Holland is a terrible human being so it's fitting he gave this talk at BYU
Replies: 68
Views: 4230

Re: Jeffrey Holland is a terrible human being so it's fitting he gave this talk at BYU

What a god-awful talk. I guess I should thank him because it is part of why my wife has now felt like it is the right thing for her to have gone inactive which I NEVER thought would EVER happen. We both have separated ourselves from the church as of 3-4 months ago (although two of our three childre...
by stealthbishop
Fri Sep 17, 2021 5:09 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Casting out evil spirits?
Replies: 16
Views: 872

Re: Casting out evil spirits?

I don't really believe in evil spirits anymore. Certainly not anything to the degree that could actually cause problems for a human being if any do actually exist. That said, human beings say and do all kinds of things that relieve suffering. Some practices have been around for thousands of years. R...
by stealthbishop
Fri Sep 17, 2021 5:02 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Mormon church pays $250 million in Boy Scout settlement
Replies: 9
Views: 516

Re: Mormon church pays $250 million in Boy Scout settlement

It's so sickening what has happened. While the church was spending all their might, mind, energy, strength and $$$$$ attacking LGBTQIA+ people they allowed child abuse to occur in their care and midst. They even framed them as the one's we should be worried about. It's so sad.
by stealthbishop
Fri Sep 17, 2021 4:58 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Who thinks they're going to the CK?
Replies: 22
Views: 879

Re: Who thinks they're going to the CK?

It's difficult to remember what I thought about the CK. I didn't think too much about the afterlife. I was more into what was happening in the here and now. I never have really feared death. I did hope to still be connected with my wife and family and I thought of the CK as more of a big tent rather...