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by Stig
Thu Apr 26, 2018 3:39 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Another Sexual Predator Mission President...
Replies: 13
Views: 672

Re: Another Sexual Predator Mission President...

This guy's dad was my SP when I was a teen. I knew his younger kids, but this guy was already off doing mission/school/whatever. The dad was as hard-ass and hard-nose as they come. We had a stake youth committee with monthly meetings, all-day long stake youth events with more rules than you can ima...
by Stig
Sat Mar 31, 2018 7:41 pm
Forum: Mixed Faith Relationships
Topic: Did anyone here get a divorce over all of this?
Replies: 40
Views: 3777

Re: Did anyone here get a divorce over all of this?

AdmiralHoldo wrote:
Sat Mar 31, 2018 7:16 am
I'm definitely headed that direction. My husband loves the institutional Church more than he could ever love me.
Realizing I was second place to the Church for my wife's love, and that I always would be, was a huge factor in the decision to leave my marriage.
by Stig
Tue Mar 27, 2018 6:46 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: What is that you want that the church isn't providing?
Replies: 29
Views: 1202

Re: What is that you want that the church isn't providing?

The truth. This. Full stop. I like the idea of the church providing the truth, but they don't have it. Nobody really does. I would take the church being honest, and being a group of people honestly seeking the truth, wherever it may lead. I guess that's kind of my point. They don't have the truth, ...
by Stig
Mon Mar 26, 2018 3:22 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: What is that you want that the church isn't providing?
Replies: 29
Views: 1202

Re: What is that you want that the church isn't providing?

alas wrote:
Fri Mar 23, 2018 10:08 am
The truth.
This. Full stop.
by Stig
Mon Mar 26, 2018 1:50 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: New church statement on 2nd victim
Replies: 4
Views: 358

Re: New church statement on 2nd victim

Isn't this 2nd victim the same women mentioned in the mormon leaks audio? The church already knows there are plenty of pedophiles among it's rank and file priesthood. They've paid out many out of court settlements and made very minor changes to their policies to prevent this from happening again. A...
by Stig
Mon Mar 26, 2018 1:49 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Took a big step today - out with everybody
Replies: 27
Views: 1020

Re: Took a big step today - out with everybody

Very well written. I wish I could just copy it, sign my name as if it were my own, and send to everyone I know. I've been slowly creeping out into the open with my disaffection, but it has been very slow.
by Stig
Mon Mar 26, 2018 10:29 am
Forum: Support
Topic: MTC Mission Bishop...What are all of you thinking about this?
Replies: 7
Views: 513

Re: MTC Mission Bishop...What are all of you thinking about this?

I am thinking this is another data point in the mountain evidence that says the "Gift of Discernment" is complete B.S.
by Stig
Tue Mar 20, 2018 11:52 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: MormonLeaks releases purported confession of former MTC President
Replies: 59
Views: 2568

Re: MormonLeaks releases purported confession of former MTC President

My reactions: 1. I find the claims of abuse at this man's hands both shocking and credible. 2. The victim most certainly did NOT help her case with how she handled much of this (i.e. death threat, etc.). 3. This is but another nail in the coffin of the legendary spirit of discernment for me personal...
by Stig
Mon Mar 12, 2018 12:31 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Big changes coming in April GC!
Replies: 51
Views: 2164

Re: Big changes coming in April GC!

"Big Changes" = Retrenchment.

If there any changes coming it will be to a more conservative tone than has been in play recently. That's my prediction, any way.
by Stig
Mon Feb 26, 2018 4:30 pm
Forum: Mixed Faith Relationships
Topic: Believing DW asked for CES letter
Replies: 13
Views: 766

Re: Believing DW asked for CES letter

Here's a list of great reading If you want to push the right lady buttons: 1. In Sacred Loneliness by Todd Compton (LDS author). 2. Year of Polygamy podcast 3. Courageous, the untold story of Nephi navigating his heterosexuality in the wilderness. 4. A Middle Eastern Love Affair, the untold story o...
by Stig
Mon Feb 26, 2018 12:45 pm
Forum: Mixed Faith Relationships
Topic: Believing DW asked for CES letter
Replies: 13
Views: 766

Re: Believing DW asked for CES letter

IMO, the tone of the CES Letter can be a little off-putting. I suggest "Letter For My Wife" for something that is even more comprehensive and with a less angry tone. Link: http://www.letterformywife.com/
by Stig
Thu Jan 18, 2018 3:53 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Lost letter from Fanny Alger found!
Replies: 6
Views: 545

Re: Lost letter from Fanny Alger found!

Well,...there will certainly be an apologetic spin on that. If Fanny didn't do it with JS, then more power to her--but it seems to me that she would want to douse any "scandal" that might have followed her around. Let alone we have the Hoffman forgeries, so are we really ruling out the possibility ...
by Stig
Tue Jan 16, 2018 2:18 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Uchtdorf is out, Oaks is in...
Replies: 51
Views: 2700

Re: Uchtdorf is out, Oaks is in...

Pretty sure this should be the nail in the coffin on the argument over if there is room for the non-orthodox in the Church.
by Stig
Tue Jan 16, 2018 9:09 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Meet with Bishop?
Replies: 20
Views: 1224

Re: Meet with Bishop?

That sounds exactly like the same speech our stake president gave about getting to the temple. The canned wording is a symptom of the culture. I recently had a chat with my bishop about ordaining my son. He said, Red, what are you scared of in the temple? I said, an old geezer groping my sack with ...
by Stig
Mon Jan 08, 2018 1:42 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Honest with my Son
Replies: 11
Views: 477

Re: Honest with my Son

I tried living in hiding in my own home for six years. My wife knew from the beginning, but my kids didn't. I'm now getting a divorce...if that tells you anything.
by Stig
Sun Jan 07, 2018 11:23 am
Forum: Support
Topic: To Out Oneself or Not - Opinions on This Please
Replies: 21
Views: 894

Re: To Out Oneself or Not - Opinions on This Please

My ward in Alpine Utah is ultra orthodox TBM. The consensus of option, at least amongst the high priests, is that people who have left the church do so because Stan has a hold of them and have thus been deceived by anti-Mormon propoganda. Or, equally popular, is that belief that they have sinned an...
by Stig
Fri Dec 29, 2017 1:36 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Konfession Time
Replies: 60
Views: 2919

Re: Konfession Time

I resigned and was asked not to wear garments any more, but they are still mixed in with my gentile undies in my drawer and I just wear them simetimes. They hold no meaning to me whatsoever, they are just underwear that I have to realize that some people will judge me for wearing or not wearing. Ok...
by Stig
Mon Dec 11, 2017 6:38 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Back on the Mission Dream
Replies: 13
Views: 612

Re: Back on the Mission Dream

I have that 'nightmare' from time to time too. In mine I have the sense that I have already served multiple missions - as well as, "Hey, I'm married now. WTH!" But she's not included. Exactly. I also keep wondering how a mid-forties apostate got assigned to work with a bunch of young missionaries, ...
by Stig
Mon Dec 11, 2017 4:09 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Back on the Mission Dream
Replies: 13
Views: 612

Re: Back on the Mission Dream

Yep. Pretty sure I'm keeping a tally in my dreams on the number of times I've been called to the same mission.
by Stig
Fri Dec 01, 2017 4:57 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Prophets on birth control
Replies: 18
Views: 853

Re: Prophets on birth control

Reuben wrote:
Fri Dec 01, 2017 3:49 pm
When I read the title of this thread just now, I thought, "There's a pill for men now? And the Q15 are on it? Why??"
:lol: I did the same thing!