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by wtfluff
Mon Apr 15, 2024 8:57 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: A New Theistic Argument
Replies: 10
Views: 192

Re: A New Theistic Argument

... So, when we project onto God our own helplessness at stopping all that evil that atheists project onto God and say that therefore God does not exist…..maybe we are missing the point. Maybe God wants *us* to stop all that suffering, not just throw our hands up in the air and yell at God for not ...
by wtfluff
Sat Apr 13, 2024 6:56 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: A New Theistic Argument
Replies: 10
Views: 192

Re: A New Theistic Argument

Something fun I read the other day about this theistic argument:
If god is going to go to all the trouble it takes to make it look like they don't exist, It's only polite to believe them.
by wtfluff
Wed Apr 10, 2024 1:56 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Best part of conference?
Replies: 10
Views: 412

Re: Best part of conference?

I was a little surprised to hear Nelson state that baptism will get you into the Celestial Kingdom but only temple covenants and marriage would get you "Exaltation" within the Celestial Kingdom. I've never read that baptism alone, would get you into the CK. I've also never heard, or read that makin...
by wtfluff
Tue Apr 09, 2024 12:08 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Conspiracy Road Trip: Creationism
Replies: 6
Views: 189

Re: Conspiracy Road Trip: Creationism

Watched the entire documentary, and... Wow. My apostate brain tells me that I was never as indoctrinated as those creationist folks but was I? If I had participated in a Conspiracy Road Trip during my two-year stint as an unpaid salesperson for LD$-Inc. would I have acted similar to the creationists...
by wtfluff
Tue Apr 09, 2024 11:54 am
Forum: Support
Topic: The new throat-slitting
Replies: 8
Views: 419

Re: The new throat-slitting

... They tell you that you made those promises to Godalmighty, but if you really pay attention you realize that you made them to the church. True, you swear before God and Angels, but it is to Russell M. Nelson and Co. that you really pledge your life and allegiance. Am I wrong about this? Well... ...
by wtfluff
Tue Apr 09, 2024 11:50 am
Forum: Support
Topic: The new throat-slitting
Replies: 8
Views: 419

Re: The new throat-slitting

... They tell you that you made those promises to Godalmighty, but if you really pay attention you realize that you made them to the church. True, you swear before God and Angels, but it is to Russell M. Nelson and Co. that you really pledge your life and allegiance. Am I wrong about this? Well... ...
by wtfluff
Mon Apr 08, 2024 12:55 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Conspiracy Road Trip: Creationism
Replies: 6
Views: 189

Re: Conspiracy Road Trip: Creationism

Man that clip of the two women and the one says 'then don't be thinking' about what she heard is just so common and so depressing. ... A good (apostate) friend of mine told me once that one of his biggest issues with religion was: "It teaches you not to think." I think I replied: "Think about what?...
by wtfluff
Sat Apr 06, 2024 3:23 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: NOMference Spring 2024 Sat afternoon!!!
Replies: 54
Views: 489

Re: NOMference Spring 2024 Sat afternoon!!!

Serious question. Does anyone believe that the church will ever move on from saying the word "covenant" 33 times per hour? Someone needs to do a word-analysis thingy on the LD$-Inc. website. I wouldn't be surprised if use of that word has gone up significantly during the reign of Rusty Nel. Cook. I...
by wtfluff
Sat Apr 06, 2024 3:12 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: NOMference Spring 2024 Sat afternoon!!!
Replies: 54
Views: 489

Re: NOMference Spring 2024 Sat afternoon!!!

Serious question. Does anyone believe that the church will ever move on from saying the word "covenant" 33 times per hour? Someone needs to do a word-analysis thingy on the LD$-Inc. website. I wouldn't be surprised if use of that word has gone up significantly during the reign of Rusty Nel. Cook. I...
by wtfluff
Sat Apr 06, 2024 2:11 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: NOMference Spring 2024 Sat afternoon!!!
Replies: 54
Views: 489

Re: NOMference Spring 2024 Sat afternoon!!!

Hey MOM! family and I are in and out today. It's a busy birthday weekend in our family. Good luck to those of you sitting through the mind numbing spin work and gas lighting! Happy birthdays to the Graey fam!!!!! :D Yes. Happy Birthday Graey-bispo family member(s). And... Happy Birthday MORmON Jesu...
by wtfluff
Sat Apr 06, 2024 1:52 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: NOMference Eve Spring 2024!!
Replies: 5
Views: 120

Re: NOMference Eve Spring 2024!!

But what can we really expect? I mean during a global pandemic the best they could come up with was this cheap catch phrase "Think Celestial" :roll: :roll: C'mon now. We also got a historic proclamation... about something or other. Oh, that's right.... I completely forgot about that and even right ...
by wtfluff
Fri Apr 05, 2024 10:03 am
Forum: Support
Topic: The Mormon church is looking to crack down on... garments?!
Replies: 35
Views: 736

Re: The Mormon church is looking to crack down on... garments?!

... Does the church stand behind the superstition that garments actually provide protection from physical harm? (spoiler: they made an official statement that popped that balloon) Yet the current spiel they read before gaslighting folks about what they supposedly promised to do in the temple still ...
by wtfluff
Fri Apr 05, 2024 9:56 am
Forum: Support
Topic: What is the purpose of religion?
Replies: 3
Views: 98

Re: What is the purpose of religion?

To me the "nice" purpose for the "Common Good" would be similar to previous answers: The purpose of religion is: To answer the un-answerable questions Give people "meaning" Community/Tribe My cynical answers: The purpose of religion is to sell people useless cures to made up maladies. The cures don'...
by wtfluff
Thu Apr 04, 2024 1:30 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: The Mormon church is looking to crack down on... garments?!
Replies: 35
Views: 736

Re: The Mormon church is looking to crack down on... garments?!

Here's the current temple recommend spiel: The temple garment is a reminder of covenants made in the temple and, when worn properly throughout life, will serve as a protection against temptation and evil. The garment should be worn beneath the outer clothing. It should not be removed for activities...
by wtfluff
Thu Apr 04, 2024 11:04 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Would you do it all over?
Replies: 9
Views: 284

Re: Would you do it all over?

This is a tough one.

There are definitely things in my life related to MORmONism that I would like to "Go Away!"

But... Would I want to give up all of the good in my life for a "Do-Over?"

In a way, this is a dilemma I'm glad I don't have to deal with. :ugeek:
by wtfluff
Thu Apr 04, 2024 9:52 am
Forum: Support
Topic: The Mormon church is looking to crack down on... garments?!
Replies: 35
Views: 736

Re: The Mormon church is looking to crack down on... garments?!

How bout I just draw some Magick MORmON Masonic Polygamy symbols on myself every once in a while with a Sharpie™? LD$-Inc. could even start selling Consecrated Sharpie's. Just make sure the cap of the sharpie is off when you consecrate it. :lol: Yeah, I did wonder at times why my Magick MORmON Wiza...
by wtfluff
Wed Apr 03, 2024 6:23 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: The Mormon church is looking to crack down on... garments?!
Replies: 35
Views: 736

Re: The Mormon church is looking to crack down on... garments?!

... Or perhaps tattoos. There’s a million options that would solve the problem. ... How bout I just draw some Magick MORmON Masonic Polygamy symbols on myself every once in a while with a Sharpie™? LD$-Inc. could even start selling Consecrated Sharpie's. Or better yet: Since believers like to pull ...
by wtfluff
Tue Apr 02, 2024 6:09 am
Forum: Support
Topic: The Mormon church is looking to crack down on... garments?!
Replies: 35
Views: 736

Re: The Mormon church is looking to crack down on... garments?!

Just This Guy wrote:
Tue Apr 02, 2024 5:26 am
Can you provide more details? The article you linked to is pay-walled.
https://web.archive.org/web/20240402090 ... s-message/
by wtfluff
Mon Apr 01, 2024 3:07 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: GC wish list !!!
Replies: 16
Views: 440

Re: GC wish list !!!

I wish that they would double down on the crazy and fully embrace it to push out all the sane people. Maybe reinstate polygamy. Or canonize "Visions of Glory". Or ban meat again. Get more homophobic and racist and misogynistic to wake people up. Probably not gonna happen in GC, but when that Oaks g...
by wtfluff
Thu Mar 28, 2024 12:16 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Doubt
Replies: 8
Views: 273

Re: Doubt

Zeezrom wrote:
Thu Mar 28, 2024 10:15 am
...King Arthur answers “Oh yes. Only fools never doubt
I need to add this to the quotable quotes part of my brain.

(So I can promptly forget it...)