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- Wed Nov 30, 2016 8:23 pm
- Forum: Support
- Topic: Sister Mishie's coming for dinner Thursday evening
- Replies: 5
- Views: 2978
Re: Sister Mishie's coming for dinner Thursday evening
Would you ever consider talking to them about the NOM website? Maybe explain to them what a NOM is etc, etc. You're probably more of missionary for the NOMs than they are for the TBMs if you add up all the people who have read your posts. I'm just curious....I know I would have been probably intere...
- Wed Nov 30, 2016 3:27 pm
- Forum: Support
- Topic: Sister Mishie's coming for dinner Thursday evening
- Replies: 5
- Views: 2978
Re: Sister Mishie's coming for dinner Thursday evening
Would you ever consider talking to them about the NOM website? Maybe explain to them what a NOM is etc, etc. You're probably more of missionary for the NOMs than they are for the TBMs if you add up all the people who have read your posts. I'm just curious....I know I would have been probably interes...
- Tue Nov 29, 2016 11:08 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Kish and Lavan
- Replies: 6
- Views: 3592
Re: Kish and Lavan
I've been trying to teach myself Spanish lately and I recently noticed that the Spanish word for "soul" is "alma." As a TBM, and even now as a non-believer, I would probably say it is a coincidence, but it wouldn't surprise if Joseph Smith borrowed from Spanish when he wrote the BOM. After all, he ...
- Tue Nov 29, 2016 7:12 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: More Sunday School Confusion
- Replies: 8
- Views: 4288
Re: More Sunday School Confusion
The way the church uses these scriptures to teach that you will recieve material and other blessing from paying tithing is very disturbing to me. To me, it seems like fraud! Almost all of the TBM's I knew take this promise very seriously and pay tithing with the expectation that they will receive ma...
- Tue Nov 29, 2016 6:41 pm
- Forum: Support
- Topic: Word of Wisdom question
- Replies: 18
- Views: 8705
Re: Word of Wisdom question
In my TBM days, I interpreted the hot drinks and alcohol part of the WoW as only applying to "drinks." So, for me, if a food had coffee or alcohol flavoring in it I could eat it. (Though I know some TBMs that would think this was breaking the WoW Cold coffee and iced tea would be against the WoW bec...
- Tue Nov 29, 2016 6:15 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Kish and Lavan
- Replies: 6
- Views: 3592
Re: Kish and Lavan
I've been trying to teach myself Spanish lately and I recently noticed that the Spanish word for "soul" is "alma." As a TBM, and even now as a non-believer, I would probably say it is a coincidence, but it wouldn't surprise me if Joseph Smith borrowed from Spanish when he wrote the BOM. After all, h...
- Thu Nov 24, 2016 3:25 am
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Conference Talk Review: Saturday Afternoon - Todd Christofferson, "Abide in My Love"
- Replies: 9
- Views: 5019
Re: Conference Talk Review: Saturday Afternoon - Todd Christofferson, "Abide in My Love"
I've noticed a trend where the church leaders like to quote each other. I rarely hear them quote JS or any of the dead leaders. They quote each other in circles almost like they have all been instructed to quote only living leaders. I also noticed that it was the senior members of the Q15 he quotes...
- Wed Nov 23, 2016 8:29 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Conference Talk Review: Sunday Morning, Russell Nelson "Joy and Spiritual Survival"
- Replies: 9
- Views: 5522
Re: Conference Talk Review: Sunday Morning, Russell Nelson "Joy and Spiritual Survival"
Great review! It interested me enough in his talk to actually go now and read it! I testify that your analysis of this talk was truly NOM inspired!
- Tue Nov 15, 2016 5:32 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Closing the Little Factory
- Replies: 16
- Views: 7678
Re: Closing the Little Factory
Have they ever denounced SWK's claims that masturbation will make you gay? I also remember a talk that said it will make you insane. As long as those things are still on the books there will be hard-cores digging them up and whacking (no pun intended) kids over the head with them. My personal favor...
- Thu Nov 10, 2016 10:35 am
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Tithing blessings and magical thinking
- Replies: 25
- Views: 11284
Re: Tithing blessings and magical thinking
Here's the experiment I ran when I spent a year entertaining the thought the church was all BS. I didn't pay tithing and observed whether I was cursed for it. I dodged a big layoff, got a raise, got a bonus, life actually seemed much better that year. Of course, even without the raise and bonus it'...
- Thu Nov 10, 2016 7:38 am
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Tithing blessings and magical thinking
- Replies: 25
- Views: 11284
Re: Tithing blessings and magical thinking
One last vivid memory of tithing cognitive dissonance was reading a newspaper story where a bankruptcy trustee was trying to go after LDS Inc for tithing paid to the church when the businessman should have been paying creditors. Clearly the magic did not work. I guess I am rambling somewhat but my ...
- Fri Nov 04, 2016 5:21 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Conference Talk Review: Saturday Afternoon - Todd Christofferson, "Abide in My Love"
- Replies: 9
- Views: 5019
Re: Conference Talk Review: Saturday Afternoon - Todd Christofferson, "Abide in My Love"
Great analysis! I'm glad you're doing your reviews of conference talks again! Reading your reviews is by far the best way to get informed about what happened at conference!
- Wed Nov 02, 2016 3:25 pm
- Forum: Support
- Topic: tithing shake down (settlement)
- Replies: 42
- Views: 19976
Re: tithing shake down (settlement)
THey started tithing settlement appointments here last week and plan to finished by thanksgiving. THey have frequently reminded everyone you don't need to be paid up through the year, just to that point in time. I think they're hoping to free up their December schedules. (emphasis added) Absolutely...
- Wed Nov 02, 2016 11:01 am
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Church's Communistic Structure Stifles Innovation
- Replies: 11
- Views: 5706
Re: Church's Communistic Structure Stifles Innovation
I generally agree with the point of the opening post. The church tries to use a McDonalds franchise model so, like McDonalds where you can go anywhere in the world and expect to get a standard Big Mac, in the church you can go anywhere and attend a ward and get the same doctrine, meeting schedule, e...
- Tue Nov 01, 2016 3:32 pm
- Forum: Support
- Topic: Do you drink coffee?
- Replies: 42
- Views: 18646
Re: Do you drink coffee?
My best guess is that he didn't what to pay for anyone else's coffee. That would be considered aiding and abetting the breaking of the WoW. Practically a WoW violation in itself!
- Mon Oct 31, 2016 4:45 am
- Forum: Support
- Topic: Minor updates in the korihor family
- Replies: 4
- Views: 2826
Re: Minor updates in the korihor family
WoW! That's bold! Probably scared off the Holy Ghost for everybody! Did you think about that before you did what you did? Just kidding....It would get judgmental looks in the Utah ward I grew up in. But the current ward I'm in now, outside of Morridor, an active member could probably get away with i...
- Thu Oct 27, 2016 11:28 pm
- Forum: Support
- Topic: How did you find the new site?
- Replies: 60
- Views: 26954
Re: How did you find the new site?
I found it from Reddit. I found Reddit and really started using it from the original NOM site. Quick questions: Do you know what is going on with the original NOM site? Is it going to come back one day? That might be awkward if there are two NOM websites. Also, have you thought about advertising thi...
- Thu Oct 27, 2016 10:51 am
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Was JS the only person who claimed to use seer stones?
- Replies: 26
- Views: 13466
- Thu Oct 27, 2016 10:34 am
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Was JS the only person who claimed to use seer stones?
- Replies: 26
- Views: 13466
Re: Was JS the only person who claimed to use seer stones?
Hiram Page did. D&C 28 is Joseph Smith smacking Hiram Page down so he doesn't have a rival for revealing things using magic rocks. "My magic rock is better than your magic rock". How did I ever believe this nonsense? I had to go read that for myself. Check out verse 11. The word "stone" is annotate...
- Wed Oct 26, 2016 11:19 pm
- Forum: Support
- Topic: Calculating our tithing.
- Replies: 17
- Views: 9838
Re: Calculating our tithing.
I've developed a number of legitimate "tithing shelters" to shelter my income from tithing. For example, for income going into 401k, Roth, and other retirement accounts I don't pay tithing on it until I withdraw the money in retirement. (I will pay this tithing in retirement, assuming, of course, th...