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by larecherche
Sun Apr 07, 2019 9:41 am
Forum: Support
Topic: General NOMfrence Sunday morning!!!!
Replies: 97
Views: 2660

Re: General NOMfrence Sunday morning!!!!

"Oh, you're committed to your religion? That's not good enough. You need to be committed to my religion."
by larecherche
Sun Apr 07, 2019 9:01 am
Forum: Support
Topic: General NOMfrence Sunday morning!!!!
Replies: 97
Views: 2660

Re: General NOMfrence Sunday morning!!!!

I'm just going to go with personal revelation instead of general revelation. Coffee is legal now!
by larecherche
Sat Apr 06, 2019 1:38 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: General NOMfrence Saturday Afternoon!!!
Replies: 91
Views: 3110

Re: General NOMfrence Saturday Afternoon!!!

The statistical report has always been done with the audit report, but starting last year they're not doing the membership report during conference. It should be available on the website, though.
by larecherche
Fri Mar 29, 2019 8:24 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: What do you make of John C Bennett?
Replies: 17
Views: 822

Re: What do you make of John C Bennett?

I've seen enough to believe that John C Bennett was a scoundrel.

In this case, however, I think that he only got in trouble because he got caught. Joseph didn't want other people to find out that he was doing the same thing as Dr. Bennett.
by larecherche
Mon Mar 25, 2019 2:52 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Recent Three Nephites sightings?
Replies: 18
Views: 919

Re: Recent Three Nephites sightings?

Same here. I served a mission a decade or so ago.

I have never heard any serious 3 Nephites stories in my life, but I have heard lots of 3 Nephites jokes. I don't think that people really take that seriously anymore.
by larecherche
Thu Mar 21, 2019 12:49 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: What's left in your transition?
Replies: 18
Views: 894

Re: What's left in your transition?

I'm not angry anymore. I don't trust Joseph Smith, but there's no more anger. He taught some good things and some bad things, did some terrible things, and manically jumped from one doctrine to another until it's hard to consistently define anything about Mormonism. I feel like I've been basically a...
by larecherche
Tue Mar 19, 2019 5:09 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: The Pharisee Phenomenon--New RFM Podcast
Replies: 19
Views: 1064

Re: The Pharisee Phenomenon--New RFM Podcast

This is fantastic! It really gives words to what I feel.

It's too bad that we haven't had more J Golden Kimballs.
by larecherche
Sun Mar 17, 2019 4:11 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: WoW pisses me off!
Replies: 38
Views: 1849

Re: WoW pisses me off!

I think that the gospel can be beautiful in it's simplicity and clarity, but LDS doctrine tacks on a whole lot of extra speculation, requirements, and contradictions.
by larecherche
Thu Mar 14, 2019 6:46 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: What was your first NOM thought?
Replies: 46
Views: 2450

Re: What was your first NOM thought?

I don't remember how old I was, but I was trying to find something that I had misplaced. My mom said that I should say a prayer and ask for help finding it, and I thought that sounded really dumb.

I think that I was always more intellectually attached to the church than emotionally invested.
by larecherche
Thu Mar 14, 2019 5:04 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Your Random LDS Questions
Replies: 40
Views: 1747

Re: Your Random LDS Questions

I've read that the Q70 could recreate the Q12 because D&C 20 says that they are equal in authority, which means that they also have all the keys. Does that mean that the Stake High Councils also have all the keys? D&C 20 says that they are also equal in authority. Maybe everybody has all the keys. I...
by larecherche
Thu Mar 14, 2019 10:14 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Holy envy
Replies: 9
Views: 709

Holy envy

I have been listening to N.T. Wright talk about Paul and Judaism, and I'm feeling a lot of complicated emotions about it. This isn't my first time exploring non-LDS theology, but it's hitting me a bit harder this time. I feel like Wright understands the New Testament and the historical context, and ...
by larecherche
Thu Mar 14, 2019 3:48 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Mission age limits men vs. women
Replies: 12
Views: 903

Re: Mission age limits men vs. women

Yes, the rules are different for men and women. Women have a minimum age, the same as men, but they don't have a maximum age. They are also able to serve as many times as they want.

The church doesn't trust men.
by larecherche
Tue Mar 12, 2019 9:31 am
Forum: Support
Topic: If the church were to admit and apologize...
Replies: 22
Views: 975

Re: If the church were to admit and apologize...

If the church were to rewrite their narratives, apologize for damage done, and be a much more open and forgiving organization it would go a long way towards earning respect. I think it would probably end up being a church that was inspired by Joseph Smith instead of a church that was literally revea...
by larecherche
Tue Mar 12, 2019 7:45 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Living the Middleway again.
Replies: 22
Views: 1075

Re: Living the Middleway again.

Part of being half-in is disregarding official direction and continuing a lifelong habit of saying Mormon :lol:
by larecherche
Tue Mar 12, 2019 7:43 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Really living the Word of Wisdom
Replies: 12
Views: 554

Re: Really living the Word of Wisdom

Isn't it just a little bit ridiculous? The Word of Wisdom is an identity marker, but we mostly ignore it to enforce an officially interpreted version of it. I'm not planning on drinking beer (it's better for your health not to, I don't need to drink my carbs, and drinking can be an expensive habit),...
by larecherche
Mon Mar 11, 2019 1:08 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: John Taylor's (alleged) 1886 revelation on polygamy/everlasting covenant?
Replies: 10
Views: 524

Re: John Taylor's (alleged) 1886 revelation on polygamy/everlasting covenant?

I think it's legitimate, and it is definitely talking about polygamy. It certainly agrees with John Taylor's views on polygamy, and aligns very well with the D&C. And yes, it was never presented to the church. I don't believe that John Taylor even had an opportunity to present it in General Conferen...
by larecherche
Mon Mar 11, 2019 12:15 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: General Konference Predictions
Replies: 90
Views: 5692

Re: General Konference Predictions

I'm sure that there will be a lot more talking about staying in the church and not worrying about church history. That's been a constant for years. I wouldn't be surprised if something changed that made it a little bit easier to stay in the church. I couldn't say what, and I doubt that it will be on...
by larecherche
Mon Mar 11, 2019 10:50 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Really living the Word of Wisdom
Replies: 12
Views: 554

Really living the Word of Wisdom

I've been thinking that I really want to live the Word of Wisdom. More specifically, I want to identify the underlying principles and apply those to my life. The specifics as currently defined by the church seem arbitrary and based on really old opinions. So what is the Word of Wisdom, really? I'm n...
by larecherche
Sun Mar 10, 2019 8:48 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Living the Middleway again.
Replies: 22
Views: 1075

Re: Living the Middleway again.

I shudder to think of getting a calling and other responsibilities. Is that part going to be okay for you? Your middleway may become 3/4 way. While living with my dad, I had my records sent to my home in another state. The church is like that. You might try to go half-way, but it's going to do ever...
by larecherche
Sat Mar 09, 2019 9:56 am
Forum: Introductions
Topic: Hello again
Replies: 5
Views: 750

Hello again

Hey everybody. I'm yet another old forum-goer that's back for more; my fingers still start with "forum." when I want to visit NOM. I was an infrequent browser/poster on the old forum, and thought that I'd give it another go. I think that it was really Jana Reiss book "The Next Mormons" (or rather, h...