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The former primary chorister used to have the kids sing that one. I couldn't sing along. I kept thinking about the way the church changed their claim that the lamanites were the ancestors of the native americans. But were slow and sneaky about it so no one would notice. And how offensive the song is...

Congrats on the wedding, sorry it's under these circumstances.

How about "Those mirrors really creep me out."

I am not really sure how ministering is going in my ward. I stopped home teaching a couple years ago, and my home teachers stopped coming over around the same time. I still don't make visits and am not visited. I texted the EQP, who I consider a friend, that I appreciate him considering me for the c...

I'm glad your first visit went OK jfro! Hopefully this will help open the doors of communication between you and your DW.

My EQP asked me if I would accept a calling to be the Elder's Quorum Ministering Secretary at the Ward Christmas Dinner last night. He described the calling as "You and I would just go visit people to talk about ministering." I held in a laugh at how awful that sounded and asked if I could get back ...

Good luck! I had a few therapy sessions with my DW and they went really badly. She had/has no desire to address any issues, and would rather live a superficial life with them hidden than address them. It sounds like your relationship is more open to working through things, so I hope it goes better f...

Can someone give a summary for us non Utah supporters of Prop 2? Prop 2 was a ballot initiative in Utah that passed in November contrary to the church's opposition. It made medical marijuana legal in Utah. There were a few loopholes that people were concerned would allow legal recreational use, God...

DW is not interested in tithing settlement either. Wow is this progress? or just avoidance of problems? My DW scheduled us early and I went to our tithing settlement this year and pretended to gobble that crap up like a public toilet during halftime. Not progress, that is just how my DW is. She hat...

I was greeted by a member of the bishopric when I stopped by priesthood opening exercises to announce stake basketball yesterday. He wasted no time and immediately asked if I wanted to set up a meeting with the bishop for tithing settlement. I was not prepared. I "ummed" for a moment and responded "...

Wow. If it were faith promoting then that would be fast and testimony meeting material right there.

I'm glad to hear you are making a difference in the blogosphere. One soul at a time. How was your teaching received?

It's better to have wrestled...and lost...than to have played basketball. Why not both? I've been out of Utah so long I didn't even know anybody still did church ball. All I heard in the local stakes was that they cancelled it XX years ago because it was too competitive and people were mean to each...

That was painful. And who said being gay is worse than polygamy?

"Yeah, I'll admit I am biased, but your bias is just as bad as mine, let's call it even (but I'm right, you unread heathen that chooses not to believe even though there is so much evidence that I'm right)."

And that would be the critical difference. As I understand it most SPs as a rule don't allow a member to actually mount a defense. They get shut down pretty quick. SPs and HCs exist to tell you what's going to happen, not to listen to what you think is happening. Their job is to counsel, not be cou...

The single dumbest thing a stake president could do is take all of his top leadership, stick them in one room behind closed doors, and give Bill Reel 60 minutes to say anything he wants to them! It may be dumb, but it is what integrity demands when you convene a court to take away someone's eternal...

Apparently he laid out a pretty good case: https://mormondiscussionpodcast.org/2018/11/bill-reel-disciplinary-response-to-the-charges/ And that would be the critical difference. As I understand it most SPs as a rule don't allow a member to actually mount a defense. They get shut down pretty quick. ...

Nope, never. I am obsessed with knowing stuff, and I hate it when something I know is not true. I really thought I was right as a TBM, that there was a god and he directed the mormon church through the prophets. Once I looked at some of the teachings and actions of the church with a more objective e...

Below is an anecdote from my life where someone very effectively persuaded me to believe differently. YMMV. I was attending BYU and took my Biology 101 class to fill the general requirement. I was 25 at the time and identified as a right-wing Republican. I listened to Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, an...

..." I have had no husband to love so all my love has been for them." Polygamy hits home to me as dealing with an adulterous "high priest" husband seems similar. The quote "I have had no husband to love " hit home - or rather, I would say "I choose to no longer love my husband", or "I choose to not...

"Endure" is right, that sounds awful! You are in an obviously unfair position. Your post really highlights the success the church has at indoctrinating and trapping people. Your loved ones (mine too) are so bought in to what the church is selling that you rocking the boat is literally the worst thin...

"Could we we put the name of their loved on on the temple role so that they pass sooner? Can we somehow cause their car to break down so they have to call their assigned ministers? Is there any chance they could fired from their job and need to come in for financial assistance? Is there any way to ...