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by Linked
Tue Jun 25, 2019 11:22 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: What if? New HBO Show on Mormonism's Beginnings
Replies: 15
Views: 219

Re: What if? New HBO Show on Mormonism's Beginnings

Here's where I always have to insert my (unwanted) skepticism into the " This Show about MORmONism would be awessome!!!" Conversations. There are many, many, many MORmON themed movies and TV shows that have already been made. The vast majority of them were complete flops. Trey Parker and Co.'s Musi...
by Linked
Mon Jun 24, 2019 8:25 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Taking indefensible position?
Replies: 7
Views: 217

Re: Taking indefensible position?

I don't have a ton to suggest, as my communication with my spouse about sex is not great. I'm rooting for you though! I feel that it is perfectly human to fantasize about other people and it is our commitment to not have sex with those other people that make us special to one another . I can see it ...
by Linked
Mon Jun 24, 2019 7:39 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Happiness in Sacrament Meeting
Replies: 9
Views: 313

Re: Happiness in Sacrament Meeting

I think the keywords in her talk are "stop thinking". Also, TSCC wants TBMs preoccupied with thinking about all the things to keep them running on the gerbil wheel, then telling them they can never do enough or have not done enough. Guilt, fear, true happiness as long as you don't bitch about it! Y...
by Linked
Mon Jun 24, 2019 7:35 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Missionary Parents
Replies: 2
Views: 107

Missionary Parents

My niece was put in a tough situation on her mission recently, which was resolved yesterday to everyone's delight. After we got the news that things were getting worked out I noticed that my sister, her mother, was crying. I sat with her for a few minutes and listened to her talk about how wonderful...
by Linked
Mon Jun 24, 2019 7:24 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Morrissey and the Church
Replies: 6
Views: 207

Re: Morrissey and the Church

Your post reminds me of my feelings toward BYU football. As a TBM I loved BYU and I loved football. I grew up in the shadow of the Y mountain and BYU football greats like Ty Detmer, Steve Sarkisian, Luke Staley and Brandon Doman. Then I had a faith transition and I just can't support the team in the...
by Linked
Sun Jun 23, 2019 3:30 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Happiness in Sacrament Meeting
Replies: 9
Views: 313

Happiness in Sacrament Meeting

A talk in sacrament meeting today suggested that the congregation is unhappy because they selfishly think too much about what will make them happy. "If you keep opening the oven to check the meal it will never get done". So stop thinking about all the things in your life that make you unhappy. Inste...
by Linked
Thu Jun 20, 2019 10:07 am
Forum: The Coffee Shop
Topic: NOM down for a week? What happened?
Replies: 11
Views: 227

Re: NOM down for a week? What happened?

Thanks Captain! All your work is appreciated.
by Linked
Mon Jun 10, 2019 8:51 am
Forum: Mixed Faith Relationships
Topic: My parental units--is a visit worth it?
Replies: 11
Views: 357

Re: My parental units--is a visit worth it?

By the way, there's a thing (I don't remember what it's called) where you can take time off for medical issues in regards to family, and can't be fired for doing so. A relative of mine is taking it because one of their grown kids has a serious health issue. Anyway, I don't want to say too much beca...
by Linked
Mon Jun 10, 2019 8:48 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Thoughts on tithing
Replies: 41
Views: 1872

Re: Thoughts on tithing

Do you suspect there may be elements of an obsessive-compulsive disorder going on here? Or just a gold old-fashioned mormon guilt/shame and over-compensation complex. I confronted her about this and it did not go well. I admit I did not handle it well. We have had other marital issues in addition t...
by Linked
Mon Jun 10, 2019 8:45 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Wheat, wheat, wheat, still giving me the occasional nightmares
Replies: 5
Views: 242

Re: Wheat, wheat, wheat, still giving me the occasional nightmares

That's a great story! It must be painful to work with church people who think they know everything when you are an actual expert. Sounds like you put together a successful wheat storage weekend.

Now the people of Holland can know the joy of moving homes with a bunch of 40 lb (18kg) buckets of wheat!
by Linked
Fri Jun 07, 2019 11:23 am
Forum: Support
Topic: What was your first NOM thought?
Replies: 46
Views: 1766

Re: What was your first NOM thought?

I don't remember the very first one, but some early ones were: - Shortly after my mission a friend of mine getting a film degree at BYU mentioned his disgust at how church movies were emotionally manipulative, and before my faithful defenses could kick in it rung true. I found it interesting the way...
by Linked
Mon Jun 03, 2019 11:15 am
Forum: Support
Topic: 4 Month Check in
Replies: 5
Views: 294

Re: 4 Month Check in

The disaffection journey with a faithful spouse is hard. Many here are on the journey with you, hang in there. Your rant about trying a damn glass of wine resonated with me. It is so frustrating to deal with the mormon viewpoint on alcohol. I'm fine with people choosing not to drink, and being wary ...
by Linked
Fri May 31, 2019 2:57 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Is NOM really "middle way" to any extent anymore?
Replies: 57
Views: 1715

Re: Is NOM really "middle way" to any extent anymore?

NOM is a forum of thoughtful people who no longer believe in the truth claims of the mormon church, but still have the mormon church on their mind for their own reasons; in many cases those reasons are a believing spouse. I want to see the Church succeed because I think it can still be a source of ...
by Linked
Fri May 31, 2019 1:04 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Lively discussion for NBI: Fighting for Jesus; where do we cross the line?
Replies: 27
Views: 633

Re: Lively discussion for NBI: Fighting for Jesus; where do we cross the line?

Individuals have a right to protect and sustain themselves. They're legally constrained, and further morally constrained, in what they can do. There are hard lines and soft lines, and sometimes the soft lines are more like wide gray gradients. Organizations are the same. No question. The church ope...
by Linked
Thu May 30, 2019 3:01 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: The 'transfiguration of Brigham Young' and the New Testament
Replies: 9
Views: 357

Re: The 'transfiguration of Brigham Young' and the New Testament

My faith transition was more about God and dogmatic religion in general than the mormon church. So I stopped believing in both the christian miracles and the mormon specific miracles equally (and Islamic and Jewish and Hindu and Zoroastrian). But like the OP mentioned as I learned about the real his...
by Linked
Thu May 30, 2019 2:55 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Is NOM really "middle way" to any extent anymore?
Replies: 57
Views: 1715

Re: Is NOM really "middle way" to any extent anymore?

NOM is a forum of thoughtful people who no longer believe in the truth claims of the mormon church, but still have the mormon church on their mind for their own reasons; in many cases those reasons are a believing spouse. It's less antagonistic than some sites, but isn't welcoming for people who sti...
by Linked
Thu May 30, 2019 2:38 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Lively discussion for NBI: Fighting for Jesus; where do we cross the line?
Replies: 27
Views: 633

Re: Lively discussion for NBI: Fighting for Jesus; where do we cross the line?

Let's define the mormon church by what it claims to be: God's kingdom on earth, led by prophets who are guided directly by God himself. The only path to the celestial kingdom. The only place you can find ALL good. I expect(ed) that organization to be moral and transparent and to help people. Why? W...
by Linked
Thu May 30, 2019 9:49 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Lively discussion for NBI: Fighting for Jesus; where do we cross the line?
Replies: 27
Views: 633

Re: Lively discussion for NBI: Fighting for Jesus; where do we cross the line?

Anyway, before we agree on how God’s one true church would behave, we have to agree on just who the one true God is. This is the core of the problem. Every individual within the church defines the “behavior” differently. ... So let’s define the Mormon church: a self serving organization generally l...
by Linked
Wed May 29, 2019 10:43 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Latter day Pharisees
Replies: 5
Views: 368

Re: Latter day Pharisees

It is strange to read through that and see posts that I would have written 15 years ago (TBM), 10 years ago (questioning little things), 5 years ago(frustrated), and even today. There seem to be a lot of people there that I would consider fairly progressive.
by Linked
Tue May 28, 2019 11:57 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Skipped 2nd Hour with DS
Replies: 10
Views: 573

Re: Skipped 2nd Hour with DS

This week was priesthood and I don't go to that, so I told my son I was going home and he could decide if he wants to go to his class or come home with me. Also that if he came home he would have to spend 30 minutes cleaning or serving somehow. I cleared the offer with DW before talking to DS. He h...