NOM

Adults in the mormon church are kept childlike. They are pressured into not making real decisions, but to follow the decisions made by church leaders. The local leaders, both official and unofficial, simply encourage everyone else to follow along too; they don't make any real decisions. Those people...

My in laws have brought up their home study several times over the past couple months. MIL pointed out some helpful things she had seen online to DW. Sis IL showed us the workbooks her kids were doing. DW and I complemented their work and thanked them for the ideas, and continue to parent the way we...

Can I define a virtuous life rather than manhood? TBM me: - Strive to do Heavenly Father's will, and adopt it as my own (this was nebulous and prone to changing, a perfect goal to keep me in the boat) - Read scriptures daily - Fulfill my calling(s) - Perform real service - Seek truth and learn lots ...

I enjoy seeing all the exmos, though I do have similar negative thoughts about myself as what has been mentioned already. One thing I personally like seeing is the pictures of people who look totally mormon still. Not because there is anything wrong with getting tats or being single and living it up...

The idea of the open hand is appealing to me. There is a lot out there that we don't know, and much of it we don't realize that we don't know. I've said before that it was a big relief to be able to say "I don't know" about the church and god and other similar topics. I'm naturally an open hand kind...

Primary is terrible. The stake decided no more snacks for Nursery because two-year olds need more time for doctrine. No more singing happy birthday to the kids because they need more time for doctrine. No more fun songs because they only have time for doctrinal songs. I wish I were joking. That is ...

Good list Slavereeno. I agree with those who say "nothing". I appreciated the social aspects of spending time with a tribe, but I hate the core of what mormonism stands for. I could never embrace it again. Worshipping a god, claiming to be the only path to an imagined heaven, claiming feelings show ...

I just finished listening to Thinking Fast and Slow by Daniel Kahneman, a great read on how our brains work and some of the fallacies people fall into because of how we naturally process information. Currently listening to Masters of Doom , a book about how id software was started and how games like...

Is primary combined sharing time, or is it individual classes for each age group? Most wards in our neck of the woods have followed direction to combine Jr and Sr primaries for 20 minute singing time, and then splitting up for ~20 minutes of individual class time. At least one ward has found that "...

2 hour church is way better. I brought up how much better 2 hour church is at a family gathering and all my siblings ignored me, but my 18 year old nephew loudly agreed. Part of me would prefer 4 hour church, so I could point to how awful it is because that's better for my long term goals, but 2 hou...

My son is getting baptised on Sunday. All his choice, hes excited and looks gorgeous in his suit. We havent really said or talked about the whys and wherefores of it. Ive kept it pretty simple and said hell be an official.member of the church and is following Jesus' example. That's how I see it. Th...

Hagoth wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 07, 2019 12:04 pm

This kind of disconnected parallelism seems to be the life blood of BoM apologetics.

But for the TBM it comes so naturally. I remember doing this with all sorts of random crap.

That's a tough decision. The hardest decisions are the ones where there is no obvious choice because the outcomes are unknown or similar. For your mental health I would recommend selecting a set of criteria, deciding based on those criteria, and not looking back. Whenever you wonder if you made the ...

This last Sunday was our stake conference, and I forced myself to go. The first talk, from the stake president, who I know was all about not losing your faith for historical or intellectual reasons. I could easily tell that our bishop had talked to him, and that the reason for his talk was in large...

I don’t know that they need new “protections” for their right to discriminate. Already, any one who is gay and married, or gay and sexually active can be kicked out under honor code violation. And they don’t care about celibate gays. Maybe they just want extra protection for their right to be bigot...

Star Trek Firefly Star Wars 2001 But I like them all. Trek and Wars are different, but both do a good job at what they do. Although, the latest Star Trek movies are probably more like Star Wars movies than Trek movies; still fun though. I recently watched 2001 for the first time to cover my sci-fi b...

crossmyheart wrote: ↑

Mon Feb 04, 2019 10:19 am

Now? I usually skip the bread and take the water. Just to mess with people- they cant decide if I am a sinner or not.

Hahaha, that is fantastic! Reminds me of the guy I know with a big BYU tattoo.

Thanks for all the comments. I agree with the disgust at sin shaming a 7 year old. I think my TBM DW also agrees with that disgust. We briefly talked about it and she seemed to agree that he shouldn't feel like he is a bad kid that needs to be cleansed for his evil deeds. I will talk to him about ho...

Regarding mattering cosmically, considering the truth can be depressing if you feel like the physical world is all there is. And feel really nihilistic for better or worse. Rick and Morty said it well:



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There has been a lot of discussion on the definition of truth in this thread, appropriately. What about the definition of "matter"? RR, what do you mean by truth mattering? I'm just wrapping my head around "truth" and I'll admit this has been on my mind all week. Now your asking me to define matter...