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by Linked
Thu Jan 23, 2020 5:43 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Key Indicators?
Replies: 9
Views: 222

Re: Key Indicators?

My ward in southern Salt Lake County has been pretty stagnant, neither growing nor shrinking significantly. 2/4 of my oldest nieces and nephews have tattoos and appear to be moving on from TBM life. Another comes home from her mission next month and her brother leaves for his mission in May. None of...
by Linked
Thu Jan 23, 2020 5:35 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Dreams equal visions?
Replies: 7
Views: 171

Re: Dreams equal visions?

I'm not sure about dreams vs. visions, but I think a similar question about whether visions = visitations is also important. In my years being raised very active in the church the First Vision and Moroni's Vision were taught as visitations. In my opinion now, vision means a day dream where dream mea...
by Linked
Thu Jan 23, 2020 5:05 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Dear Spouseman love your mother
Replies: 20
Views: 327

Re: Dear Spouseman love your mother

Wow, I can't imagine how much that must piss you off, Thoughtful. It's getting to me and I'm not involved. You are a saint for the restraint you must have to exercise.

The hypocrisy there is unbelievable.
by Linked
Thu Jan 23, 2020 4:56 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: The Lord Knows Us
Replies: 13
Views: 321

Re: The Lord Knows Us

The further I get from belief the more harmful these ideas seem to me. These ideas can be used for comfort in difficult times and to make it easier to accept suffering. The second is helpful because not accepting suffering makes it worse. (In the mornings, I greet chronic pain with "Hello, old frie...
by Linked
Wed Jan 22, 2020 4:35 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: The Lord Knows Us
Replies: 13
Views: 321

Re: The Lord Knows Us

I brought up my speaking assignment with my TBM dad to get his opinion. He said that he wouldn't think to be offended that someone with my beliefs gave a talk about Jesus knowing us if he found out later, but that he would be more focused on the spirit he felt listening to the talk. So maybe I will ...
by Linked
Tue Jan 21, 2020 1:57 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Airing the Restored Laundry List
Replies: 15
Views: 294

Re: Airing the Restored Laundry List

- Planned acts of real service (per StarbucksMom) - Random acts of real service (per StarbucksMom) - Meetings for callings - Action items from meetings for callings - Quality family time - Maintain a career/care for children - Maintain a house of order, a house of cleanliness, a house of God - Choir...
by Linked
Mon Jan 20, 2020 1:42 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: The Lord Knows Us
Replies: 13
Views: 321

The Lord Knows Us

The BP counselor texted asking if I would speak at church. The topic is "The Lord knows us. How does that impact us in our faith and actions?" I enjoy public speaking, but I'm not sure I can speak on that topic as an agnostic atheist. I'm thinking I should turn him down. Or maybe I could focus on th...
by Linked
Mon Jan 20, 2020 1:33 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Rough Sunday
Replies: 20
Views: 838

Re: Rough Sunday

I had a rough one today too. What I bit my tongue on: 1) The Book of Mormon is unchanged, pure, the most perfect book without any changes. 2) It’s OK for God to have his prophets kill people. Ugghh. Those are tough to swallow. This weekend I compared my son's copy of the BoM to mine, to see the cha...
by Linked
Tue Jan 14, 2020 2:58 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: If I didn't have the gospel in my life...
Replies: 6
Views: 253

Re: If I didn't have the gospel in my life...

I think the TBM view that the church keeps them in check is mainly a manifestation of the Us vs. Them mentality that is rampant among believing members. The World is evil, all of the worst things to mormons are worldly. These include truly awful things like murder, rape, and abuse, as well as the st...
by Linked
Mon Jan 13, 2020 4:06 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Do You Love the Lord?
Replies: 15
Views: 438

Re: Do You Love the Lord?

Red Ryder wrote:
Mon Jan 13, 2020 3:58 pm
My father in law pulled me aside after hearing I was scheduled for a V. He said, did you and (wife) consult the bishop? I said no?? Why would we, he’s a dentist??
Maybe he could hook you up with some laughing gas for the procedure.
by Linked
Mon Jan 13, 2020 11:29 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Do You Love the Lord?
Replies: 15
Views: 438

Do You Love the Lord?

We got a talk from a BP counselor yesterday. This is the counselor who interviews you and asks if there is anything else you want to disclose, then stares at you knowingly for 10 seconds. The first part of his talk went over the moral choices in your life that you should counsel with the bishop abou...
by Linked
Mon Jan 13, 2020 11:22 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Rough Sunday
Replies: 20
Views: 838

Re: Rough Sunday

Quick update. I spoke with DW about being disappointed that they haven't gotten the call to another teacher yet. I told her that I am not going to be available as a backup in February, just to make sure the kinks get worked out. She agreed that was a good idea, and told me that she doesn't want the ...
by Linked
Fri Jan 10, 2020 1:30 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Rough Sunday
Replies: 20
Views: 838

Re: Rough Sunday

Thanks for the support everyone. DW is not the kind of person to try to sneakily keep me teaching. She is pretty on board with my decision to stop. But I did tell her I would be available to help occasionally. I was just excited to not do it anymore and then my excitement was shattered; mismanaged e...
by Linked
Wed Jan 08, 2020 5:04 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Whistle Blower Files IRS Complaint
Replies: 166
Views: 6552

Re: Whistle Blower Files IRS Complaint

And it is gross how the church only performs masturbatory charitable acts. The only group they are really helping is themselves. Maybe its just me and my cynical mind, but I think most (not all) charitable acts are masturbatory in some form or another. Do people give because it makes them feel good...
by Linked
Mon Jan 06, 2020 5:30 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Rough Sunday
Replies: 20
Views: 838

Rough Sunday

Well, I was released from primary a few weeks ago, but they wouldn't even let me enjoy it for the first week. I got a text from DW asking if I would mind helping her out because they don't have a team teacher for her yet. I wanted to take my power back and say no, I gave them 6 weeks to find someone...
by Linked
Mon Jan 06, 2020 5:17 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: How do I teach primary?
Replies: 64
Views: 4347

Re: How do I teach primary?

So I am dredging this old thread up again, because I am still teaching. Its now a Sunday school class, not primary anymore. I didn't have too much trouble last year, due to the new schedule I only have to teach once a month. When its my turn, I usually start late and let the kids talk about their w...
by Linked
Mon Jan 06, 2020 1:59 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Bizarre, Paranoid Fantasies
Replies: 21
Views: 752

Re: Bizarre, Paranoid Fantasies

This is an interesting observation Linked. I do find myself doing this sort of thing. I don't know if I would call them either bizarre, or paranoid. But perhaps I should. Most of my thoughts are based on the way my TBM relative have responded to my disclosure: "You have been deceived by Satan." "Th...
by Linked
Mon Jan 06, 2020 1:54 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Bizarre, Paranoid Fantasies
Replies: 21
Views: 752

Re: Bizarre, Paranoid Fantasies

Knowing firsthand how resentment over presumed future harm can build on itself, I'm a little worried. How are you this fine Sunday, Linked? The difference between what Malcolm Gladwell's point and where I am (along with others here), is that Malcolm's disasters occur because people don't know each ...
by Linked
Thu Jan 02, 2020 11:23 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Missed Tithing Settlement
Replies: 18
Views: 565

Re: Missed Tithing Settlement

https://i.chzbgr.com/full/6710942464/hC070CDD2/well-i-wouldnt-exactly-say-ive-been-missing-it-bob I haven't paid tithing since 2016, and I haven't declared my tithing status for the past couple years, I don't know what the bishop did with that. It has not affected my ability to be a primary teacher.
by Linked
Mon Dec 30, 2019 1:21 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Whistle Blower Files IRS Complaint
Replies: 166
Views: 6552

Re: Whistle Blower Files IRS Complaint

And it is gross how the church only performs masturbatory charitable acts. The only group they are really helping is themselves. Maybe its just me and my cynical mind, but I think most (not all) charitable acts are masturbatory in some form or another. Do people give because it makes them feel good...