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by Linked
Wed Oct 05, 2022 2:45 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Were we all traumatized by being Mormon?
Replies: 23
Views: 419

Re: Were we all traumatized by being Mormon?

I know I had a steps to forgiveness that ran parallel to the steps to repentance the church teaches that I taught my Mormon clients. 1 you have to recognize that you have been injured by someone else’s sin. This takes knowing that you didn’t deserve it. 2 you have to feel the appropriate emotion an...
by Linked
Tue Oct 04, 2022 3:30 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Were we all traumatized by being Mormon?
Replies: 23
Views: 419

Re: Were we all traumatized by being Mormon?

I was thinking that without purity culture, we don’t even need the Savior. The atonement as taught in most of Christianity is all about making us clean from our sins, not learning from our mistakes. My first counselor was an exMormon who had converted as an adult, and he was careful not to destroy ...
by Linked
Mon Oct 03, 2022 2:49 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: LDS Church and Courtship.
Replies: 8
Views: 175

Re: LDS Church and Courtship.

The issue for me was that the church laid out a step by step plan and I didn't think to question if the steps were right for me. I wish I could have considered if marriage was right for me. I think I would have embraced marriage eventually, but I wasn't ready for serious courtship right after my mis...
by Linked
Fri Sep 30, 2022 11:51 am
Forum: Support
Topic: The Playbook of Being Mormon
Replies: 0
Views: 93

The Playbook of Being Mormon

Noise by renowned psychologist and behavioral economist Daniel Kahneman briefly discusses the idea of naïve realism in an organization. He explains naïve realism as "the world looks as it does because that's the way it is" and related "other people view the world much the way I do". "Essential to t...
by Linked
Thu Sep 29, 2022 3:52 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Hear Him? Really? He will be there?
Replies: 6
Views: 228

Re: Hear Him? Really? He will be there?

It's just too much! It's one step away from "We are God." And TBMs would look at you like you were a crazy anti-mormon if you tried to point out that this is problematic.

This is taking the Lord's name in vain.
by Linked
Thu Sep 29, 2022 3:48 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Were we all traumatized by being Mormon?
Replies: 23
Views: 419

Re: Were we all traumatized by being Mormon?

I have a lot of trauma from my mission as well. I came home early twice! First time for physical health problems. Once things had stabilized physically more or less with me, I didn't want to go back out and I wanted to go back to college. My mother said if I didn't go back out our family would need...
by Linked
Wed Sep 28, 2022 11:53 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Were we all traumatized by being Mormon?
Replies: 23
Views: 419

Re: Were we all traumatized by being Mormon?

My mission was traumatic. I had nightmares about having to go back for years. My mom had to have everything be happy and have a silver lining which shaped my entire self and life. That probably has some roots in her mormon upbringing. I realized that I do the same thing to my family now, and am tryi...
by Linked
Mon Sep 26, 2022 2:13 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: *The Dreaded Asterisk*
Replies: 7
Views: 282

Re: *The Dreaded Asterisk*

When looked at from that angle, it's just insane. And cruel. They are helping the evil and hurting the innocent, including your friend.

But most all-in TBMs are incapable of seeing it. They think their god agrees that this is the way, so anything that disagrees is clearly wrong.
by Linked
Mon Sep 26, 2022 1:19 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: "Opportunity to receive personal revelation"
Replies: 10
Views: 319

"Opportunity to receive personal revelation"

In Sacrament Meeting yesterday the bishopric read a rah rah letter about General Conference. The line "General conference is an opportunity for you to receive personal revelation" got a massive eyeroll from me.

"Come internalize what we tell you but assign our thinking to God, kthxbye."
by Linked
Thu Sep 22, 2022 1:12 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: How do you stay sane and grounded?
Replies: 12
Views: 508

Re: How do you stay sane and grounded?

This is the hardest thing for me. I just sat through two talks where the speakers used examples of people leaving the church to show how families and people are doomed for life failure and despair. I personally don’t give a crap what they think or believe, but talks like that tear at the fragile re...
by Linked
Thu Sep 22, 2022 1:08 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: I'm a prophet, damn it, not a weatherman!
Replies: 8
Views: 291

Re: I'm a prophet, damn it, not a weatherman!

Hagoth wrote:
Wed Sep 21, 2022 4:03 am
Will we know the end is nigh when the church converts all of its investments into MREs, ammo and Greyhound tickets to Jackson County?
Where's the trigger warning :D ? Flash back to my parents food storage room and some terrible camping dinners.
by Linked
Wed Sep 14, 2022 9:13 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Oaks vows BYU will not be part of "the World"
Replies: 24
Views: 581

Re: Oaks vows BYU will not be part of "the World"

Oaks is beating an old drum here. The message to be a peculiar people or in the world but not of the world has been around at least for my entire life, and probably longer. This can be a good message, and the church shares the good message sometimes. They even have songs about it for kids like "I'll...
by Linked
Tue Sep 13, 2022 12:49 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: YW General President's Misleading Faith Promoting Experience of Her Toddler Grandson's Death
Replies: 28
Views: 1083

Re: YW General President's Misleading Faith Promoting Experience of Her Toddler Grandson's Death

I hear people telling stories in church that are obviously not true, or are heavily embellished or modified, and I think there must be something in our makeup that tells us if we tell a story in a way that makes us or someone else feel the spirit, the story is transformed and validated as true in i...
by Linked
Fri Sep 09, 2022 12:22 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Help declining a sacrament meeting talk
Replies: 23
Views: 594

Re: Help declining a sacrament meeting talk

Also I just have to vent about the way the "invite" was extended. Subject line was "Speaking Assignment." He asked if I'd be willing to speak, but then proceeded to describe the topic and links to the conference talks (which I forced myself to read and confirmed my aversion to the topic), then ende...
by Linked
Fri Sep 09, 2022 12:15 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Is there value in clergy/penitent privilege?
Replies: 9
Views: 383

Re: Is there value in clergy/penitent privilege?

In the latest article from Michael Rezendes and the AP they quote the lawyer who handled the calls from the bishops in the Arizona abuse story who defends the need for clergy-penitent privilege. Without that assurance of secrecy, troubled people will not confide in their clergy. Secrecy is essential...
by Linked
Wed Sep 07, 2022 2:39 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: YW General President's Misleading Faith Promoting Experience of Her Toddler Grandson's Death
Replies: 28
Views: 1083

Re: YW General President's Misleading Faith Promoting Experience of Her Toddler Grandson's Death

I think re-telling the story over and over again and fashioning it as a faith-promoting story rather than a stomach-turning account of homicidal child abuse is her way of processing it. She's been conditioned through decades of Mormonism to see things the way you wish they were and not the way they...
by Linked
Wed Sep 07, 2022 11:06 am
Forum: Support
Topic: How do you stay sane and grounded?
Replies: 12
Views: 508

Re: How do you stay sane and grounded?

It's hard when you don't feel close to the people closest to you.

I listen to a lot of podcasts, play the guitar, binge-read thoughtful web comics, and browse NOM to stay sane.
by Linked
Tue Sep 06, 2022 1:02 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: YW General President's Misleading Faith Promoting Experience of Her Toddler Grandson's Death
Replies: 28
Views: 1083

Re: YW General President's Misleading Faith Promoting Experience of Her Toddler Grandson's Death

The story of this child's death had me staring at my screen in horror. What that mother did is unthinkable and awful. And then to bring up the death of the child in a faith-promoting story is just mindboggling. It's so foolish that I wonder if Bonnie just didn't know the full circumstances of the ch...
by Linked
Thu Sep 01, 2022 12:19 pm
Forum: Mixed Faith Relationships
Topic: The hits keep coming
Replies: 9
Views: 955

Re: The hits keep coming

Small update to what I'm sure is an edge-of-your-seat saga. We talked to the BP member in charge of this task, told him we'd discussed it and that twice a month would be too much for us but we'd be willing to try once a month. He said he'd talk to the men up the hierarchy and see if that'd work out...
by Linked
Wed Aug 31, 2022 11:01 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Is there value in clergy/penitent privilege?
Replies: 9
Views: 383

Re: Is there value in clergy/penitent privilege?

My own experience with LDS confession is that it has been a net harm in my life. I wish I had never confessed anything to LDS bishops in my life. I agree. Working with the bishop was never particularly helpful. I think the whole mormon way of repentance screwed me up too. There is so much weight pu...