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by Linked
Mon Mar 11, 2024 2:13 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: 9 stories from those who returned to the faith
Replies: 6
Views: 151

Re: 9 stories from those who returned to the faith

These articles are so hurtful to those of us trying to maintain relationships with TBM family members, friends and neighbors. It justifies their awkward hope for my return to faith instead of dealing with our differences. It reinforces their worldview where I am evil, stupid, lazy, or all three. It'...
by Linked
Mon Mar 11, 2024 1:23 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: We’re back! Thanks Captain Salty!
Replies: 10
Views: 162

Re: We’re back! Thanks Captain Salty!

Hooray! Thanks Cap'n!
by Linked
Mon Feb 26, 2024 4:02 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Communication skills
Replies: 60
Views: 3295

Re: Communication skills

These are great tips fam, thanks for taking the time! I've read through this a few times, but haven't had the time to formulate a response, sorry to let it sit for so long. slow the whole conversation down. Start by narrowing the subject... No dirty fighting... kitchen sinking is when you bring othe...
by Linked
Mon Feb 05, 2024 4:47 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Looking back....
Replies: 12
Views: 750

Re: Looking back....

Looking back, I recognize how the Church emphasized the 'covenants that I was required to agree to from age 8 on. It just occurred to me that the Church/Mormon Jesus gave me no input into those 'priceless' covenants that I had to agree to. They are presented in a "Take it or leave it fashion." I su...
by Linked
Mon Feb 05, 2024 4:40 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Communication skills
Replies: 60
Views: 3295

Re: Communication skills

Alright, I will kind of aim the discussions at how to talk to your still believing family, since I hope none of you are involved in things like domestic violence or some of the other crap I worked with. :shock: So, the first part of communication is understanding the other person, so, we will start...
by Linked
Tue Dec 19, 2023 2:21 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Tithing Unsettlement
Replies: 21
Views: 2736

Re: Tithing Unsettlement

It's great to hear from you græy! I appreciate your posts, they help me have some empathy for the bishops out there just trying to help people. My TBM wife was more than happy to stop attending tithing settlement when I became PIMO, I suspect that there are plenty of full believers that would rather...
by Linked
Mon Dec 18, 2023 12:46 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: The most correct book....
Replies: 25
Views: 3875

Re: The most correct book....

Corianton visited prostitutes and was told that it was a sin second only to murder, so since murder is ok sometimes, I can only assume sexual promiscuity is as well, as long as you think the Holy Ghost is encouraging you to do it. Hmmm, Joseph Smith apparently assumed that as well. And Tim Ballard ...
by Linked
Mon Dec 04, 2023 4:14 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Exwife requesting our sealing cancellation...the First Presidency asked for my input
Replies: 7
Views: 1274

Re: Exwife requesting our sealing cancellation...the First Presidency asked for my input

This is tough Deepthinker, it sounds like one of those things that your mind tells you not to be bothered by, but it's still deeply upsetting. It's tied to so many huge feelings that it would be impossible not to have it bother you. But there is little opportunity for you to accomplish anything here...
by Linked
Thu Nov 16, 2023 2:59 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Primary Program 2023
Replies: 10
Views: 1654

Re: Primary Program 2023

The adults lost their minds over it though. It frustrates me how these grown women and men draw so much meaning from kids doing what they were trained to do. The kids say the words that were written for them by these same adults. And somehow that makes the church true *sob* and in good hands *sob* ...
by Linked
Thu Nov 16, 2023 2:08 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Ayaan Hirsi Ali Joins Christianity
Replies: 11
Views: 2147

Re: Ayaan Hirsi Ali Joins Christianity

Intellectually I like the idea of Absurdism as an answer for how to deal with the need for meaning in life. Absurdism is named after the absurd position humans often find themselves in, realizing that there is no meaning or purpose in life but also needing a meaning and purpose in their own life. Yo...
by Linked
Tue Nov 14, 2023 1:19 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Primary Program 2023
Replies: 10
Views: 1654

Re: Primary Program 2023

It's still the only LDS meeting that can hold my attention. My only memory of participating in the Primary program was standing there with a microphone in my hand and saying, "Teacher, I forgot my line!" Uproarious laughter from the congregation only magnified the terror. I know I've told y'all thi...
by Linked
Mon Nov 13, 2023 2:13 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Thom Harrison and "Visions of Glory"
Replies: 64
Views: 25728

Re: Thom Harrison and "Visions of Glory"

Women don’t equate the control and domination of their partner with eroticism, so women don’t sexually abuse near as much, and when they do, it is usually motivated by different things. This is pretty clearly driven by patriarchy. Men pursue control and domination because the patriarchy tells them ...
by Linked
Mon Nov 13, 2023 1:54 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Primary Program 2023
Replies: 10
Views: 1654

Primary Program 2023

The kids in my ward had their moment in the spotlight on Sunday. Some kids read, some memorized, others struggled through, and one got so nervous he had to sit down without saying a word. They seemed to enjoy it over all. The adults lost their minds over it though. It frustrates me how these grown w...
by Linked
Fri Nov 10, 2023 12:40 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: TIL: Nauvoo Expositor Is Part of 7th Grade Utah History
Replies: 8
Views: 1239

Re: TIL: Nauvoo Expositor Is Part of 7th Grade Utah History

JS was a pedophile, is this what was published? The wicked take the truth to be hard... I love that Star wars had good guys that looked like an ugly squid, and bad guys who appeared as kind friendly leaders. Great for kids to learn there are wolves in sheep's clothing, that some church leaders are ...
by Linked
Fri Nov 10, 2023 12:32 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: TIL: Nauvoo Expositor Is Part of 7th Grade Utah History
Replies: 8
Views: 1239

Re: TIL: Nauvoo Expositor Is Part of 7th Grade Utah History

Seems to be an interesting nugget of history as it pertains to Mormons, who settled Utah more or less. It's the thing that landed JS in jail at Carthage together with his brother Hyrum, which I've never sorted out in my mind why Hyrum was there...anyway, it is what lead to Joseph and Hyrum Smith's ...
by Linked
Thu Nov 09, 2023 5:01 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: TIL: Nauvoo Expositor Is Part of 7th Grade Utah History
Replies: 8
Views: 1239

TIL: Nauvoo Expositor Is Part of 7th Grade Utah History

My 7th grader learned about the Nauvoo Expositor in his Utah History class at school. I don't remember learning about that in my Utah History class, but maybe I forgot. I guess it's an important part of the mormon pioneers leaving Nauvoo for Utah, but it caught me off guard. Our conversation started...
by Linked
Tue Nov 07, 2023 5:12 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Them
Replies: 10
Views: 1616

Re: Them

I always have warm thoughts regarding the kindness and service orientation of Mormons. As individuals they are A-okay. I struggle to overlook the ulterior motive behind the kindness. They may deny it, even to themselves, but it's so core to being mormon that it would be a miracle if it weren't ther...
by Linked
Tue Nov 07, 2023 5:10 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Them
Replies: 10
Views: 1616

Re: Them

I don't remember whether it was on NOM or elsewhere that someone recently said that we as humans have a desire for community but in recent years many have had to settle for merely being part of an audience instead of a true community. While I don't think I ever totally fit in with Mormons even at m...
by Linked
Fri Nov 03, 2023 12:15 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Them
Replies: 10
Views: 1616

Them

As a believer my ingroup was Mormons, and my outgroup was "the world". There was a grey area for bad-acting mormons and good-acting not mormons. A big part of my faith transition was realizing that my values didn't align with my ingroup, I started seeing "them" among "us". I still haven't discovered...
by Linked
Mon Oct 16, 2023 10:02 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: "Mormon is a victory for Satan" - good idea or bad?
Replies: 9
Views: 5206

Re: "Mormon is a victory for Satan" - good idea or bad?

If the top brass are able to keep the push to use the full name of the church up then it may help muddy the waters in the long term. Similar to Philip Morris rebranding to Altria in 2003. Everyone knows what Philip Morris is, but I’d guess few people connect it with Altria. Especially with the churc...