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- Mon Mar 11, 2024 2:13 pm
- Forum: Support
- Topic: 9 stories from those who returned to the faith
- Replies: 7
- Views: 157
Re: 9 stories from those who returned to the faith
These articles are so hurtful to those of us trying to maintain relationships with TBM family members, friends and neighbors. It justifies their awkward hope for my return to faith instead of dealing with our differences. It reinforces their worldview where I am evil, stupid, lazy, or all three. It'...
- Mon Mar 11, 2024 1:23 pm
- Forum: Support
- Topic: We’re back! Thanks Captain Salty!
- Replies: 10
- Views: 167
Re: We’re back! Thanks Captain Salty!
Hooray! Thanks Cap'n!
- Mon Feb 26, 2024 4:02 pm
- Forum: Support
- Topic: Communication skills
- Replies: 60
- Views: 3301
Re: Communication skills
These are great tips fam, thanks for taking the time! I've read through this a few times, but haven't had the time to formulate a response, sorry to let it sit for so long. slow the whole conversation down. Start by narrowing the subject... No dirty fighting... kitchen sinking is when you bring othe...
- Mon Feb 05, 2024 4:47 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Looking back....
- Replies: 12
- Views: 750
Re: Looking back....
Looking back, I recognize how the Church emphasized the 'covenants that I was required to agree to from age 8 on. It just occurred to me that the Church/Mormon Jesus gave me no input into those 'priceless' covenants that I had to agree to. They are presented in a "Take it or leave it fashion." I su...
- Mon Feb 05, 2024 4:40 pm
- Forum: Support
- Topic: Communication skills
- Replies: 60
- Views: 3301
Re: Communication skills
Alright, I will kind of aim the discussions at how to talk to your still believing family, since I hope none of you are involved in things like domestic violence or some of the other crap I worked with. :shock: So, the first part of communication is understanding the other person, so, we will start...
- Tue Dec 19, 2023 2:21 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Tithing Unsettlement
- Replies: 21
- Views: 2736
Re: Tithing Unsettlement
It's great to hear from you græy! I appreciate your posts, they help me have some empathy for the bishops out there just trying to help people. My TBM wife was more than happy to stop attending tithing settlement when I became PIMO, I suspect that there are plenty of full believers that would rather...
- Mon Dec 18, 2023 12:46 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: The most correct book....
- Replies: 25
- Views: 3875
Re: The most correct book....
Corianton visited prostitutes and was told that it was a sin second only to murder, so since murder is ok sometimes, I can only assume sexual promiscuity is as well, as long as you think the Holy Ghost is encouraging you to do it. Hmmm, Joseph Smith apparently assumed that as well. And Tim Ballard ...
- Mon Dec 04, 2023 4:14 pm
- Forum: Support
- Topic: Exwife requesting our sealing cancellation...the First Presidency asked for my input
- Replies: 7
- Views: 1274
Re: Exwife requesting our sealing cancellation...the First Presidency asked for my input
This is tough Deepthinker, it sounds like one of those things that your mind tells you not to be bothered by, but it's still deeply upsetting. It's tied to so many huge feelings that it would be impossible not to have it bother you. But there is little opportunity for you to accomplish anything here...
- Thu Nov 16, 2023 2:59 pm
- Forum: Support
- Topic: Primary Program 2023
- Replies: 10
- Views: 1654
Re: Primary Program 2023
The adults lost their minds over it though. It frustrates me how these grown women and men draw so much meaning from kids doing what they were trained to do. The kids say the words that were written for them by these same adults. And somehow that makes the church true *sob* and in good hands *sob* ...
- Thu Nov 16, 2023 2:08 pm
- Forum: Support
- Topic: Ayaan Hirsi Ali Joins Christianity
- Replies: 11
- Views: 2147
Re: Ayaan Hirsi Ali Joins Christianity
Intellectually I like the idea of Absurdism as an answer for how to deal with the need for meaning in life. Absurdism is named after the absurd position humans often find themselves in, realizing that there is no meaning or purpose in life but also needing a meaning and purpose in their own life. Yo...
- Tue Nov 14, 2023 1:19 pm
- Forum: Support
- Topic: Primary Program 2023
- Replies: 10
- Views: 1654
Re: Primary Program 2023
It's still the only LDS meeting that can hold my attention. My only memory of participating in the Primary program was standing there with a microphone in my hand and saying, "Teacher, I forgot my line!" Uproarious laughter from the congregation only magnified the terror. I know I've told y'all thi...
- Mon Nov 13, 2023 2:13 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Thom Harrison and "Visions of Glory"
- Replies: 64
- Views: 25735
Re: Thom Harrison and "Visions of Glory"
Women don’t equate the control and domination of their partner with eroticism, so women don’t sexually abuse near as much, and when they do, it is usually motivated by different things. This is pretty clearly driven by patriarchy. Men pursue control and domination because the patriarchy tells them ...
- Mon Nov 13, 2023 1:54 pm
- Forum: Support
- Topic: Primary Program 2023
- Replies: 10
- Views: 1654
Primary Program 2023
The kids in my ward had their moment in the spotlight on Sunday. Some kids read, some memorized, others struggled through, and one got so nervous he had to sit down without saying a word. They seemed to enjoy it over all. The adults lost their minds over it though. It frustrates me how these grown w...
- Fri Nov 10, 2023 12:40 pm
- Forum: Support
- Topic: TIL: Nauvoo Expositor Is Part of 7th Grade Utah History
- Replies: 8
- Views: 1239
Re: TIL: Nauvoo Expositor Is Part of 7th Grade Utah History
JS was a pedophile, is this what was published? The wicked take the truth to be hard... I love that Star wars had good guys that looked like an ugly squid, and bad guys who appeared as kind friendly leaders. Great for kids to learn there are wolves in sheep's clothing, that some church leaders are ...
- Fri Nov 10, 2023 12:32 pm
- Forum: Support
- Topic: TIL: Nauvoo Expositor Is Part of 7th Grade Utah History
- Replies: 8
- Views: 1239
Re: TIL: Nauvoo Expositor Is Part of 7th Grade Utah History
Seems to be an interesting nugget of history as it pertains to Mormons, who settled Utah more or less. It's the thing that landed JS in jail at Carthage together with his brother Hyrum, which I've never sorted out in my mind why Hyrum was there...anyway, it is what lead to Joseph and Hyrum Smith's ...
- Thu Nov 09, 2023 5:01 pm
- Forum: Support
- Topic: TIL: Nauvoo Expositor Is Part of 7th Grade Utah History
- Replies: 8
- Views: 1239
TIL: Nauvoo Expositor Is Part of 7th Grade Utah History
My 7th grader learned about the Nauvoo Expositor in his Utah History class at school. I don't remember learning about that in my Utah History class, but maybe I forgot. I guess it's an important part of the mormon pioneers leaving Nauvoo for Utah, but it caught me off guard. Our conversation started...
Re: Them
I always have warm thoughts regarding the kindness and service orientation of Mormons. As individuals they are A-okay. I struggle to overlook the ulterior motive behind the kindness. They may deny it, even to themselves, but it's so core to being mormon that it would be a miracle if it weren't ther...
Re: Them
I don't remember whether it was on NOM or elsewhere that someone recently said that we as humans have a desire for community but in recent years many have had to settle for merely being part of an audience instead of a true community. While I don't think I ever totally fit in with Mormons even at m...
Them
As a believer my ingroup was Mormons, and my outgroup was "the world". There was a grey area for bad-acting mormons and good-acting not mormons. A big part of my faith transition was realizing that my values didn't align with my ingroup, I started seeing "them" among "us". I still haven't discovered...
- Mon Oct 16, 2023 10:02 am
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: "Mormon is a victory for Satan" - good idea or bad?
- Replies: 9
- Views: 5206
Re: "Mormon is a victory for Satan" - good idea or bad?
If the top brass are able to keep the push to use the full name of the church up then it may help muddy the waters in the long term. Similar to Philip Morris rebranding to Altria in 2003. Everyone knows what Philip Morris is, but I’d guess few people connect it with Altria. Especially with the churc...