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- Tue Feb 04, 2025 3:45 pm
- Forum: Support
- Topic: Come Along With Me - Second Arrow
- Replies: 4
- Views: 7943
Re: Come Along With Me - Second Arrow
Linked, I am impressed that you at least are able to have your family stay home with you once a month. My wife is pretty strong-willed and so it's been hard to do much compromising with her. I am just hoping to at least let them them know of my beliefs before they decide to go on a mission and ...
- Mon Feb 03, 2025 2:21 pm
- Forum: Support
- Topic: Come Along With Me - Second Arrow
- Replies: 4
- Views: 7943
Come Along With Me - Second Arrow
As a compromise between non-believing me and my believing wife, once a month we stay home from church and have a little family lesson at home instead that we call Come Along With Me. Usually we just have a little discussion about stuff I think they should learn to be good humans. My lesson planning ...
- Tue Jan 28, 2025 2:09 pm
- Forum: Support
- Topic: Church to Sue Fairview Texas Over Temple
- Replies: 5
- Views: 1342
Church to Sue Fairview Texas Over Temple
It looks like the church has submitted notice of intent to sue Fairview Texas over the temple "for violating the Church’s rights to free exercise of religion and nondiscrimination in land use regulation." The church initially proposed building a large temple in a neighborhood zoned for smaller b ...
- Thu Jan 09, 2025 4:30 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Joseph Smith takes the Fifth.
- Replies: 3
- Views: 2110
Re: Joseph Smith takes the Fifth.
In other words, I haven't made that story up yet?
- Thu Jan 09, 2025 4:28 pm
- Forum: Support
- Topic: Apologists: Good, Bad, Mediocre?
- Replies: 6
- Views: 2756
Re: Apologists: Good, Bad, Mediocre?
Church apologists argue in defense of the church. The role is inherently biased and not truth-seeking. Any discussion is had with the goal of convincing the other party; i.e. in bad faith.
I have little patience for any of that.
I have little patience for any of that.
- Thu Jan 02, 2025 12:44 pm
- Forum: Support
- Topic: Happy New Year!
- Replies: 11
- Views: 5156
Re: Happy New Year!
Happy New Year!
A get together sounds fun, let's do it.
Hagoth, is that a version of the stoic exercise of imagining the worst possible things so you are more grateful for your life?
A get together sounds fun, let's do it.
Hagoth, is that a version of the stoic exercise of imagining the worst possible things so you are more grateful for your life?
- Tue Dec 17, 2024 5:36 pm
- Forum: Support
- Topic: Officially declared non tithe payer and proud of it
- Replies: 4
- Views: 3142
Re: Officially declared non tithe payer and proud of it
Congrats sparky! Openly being your good, ATSSBUTOI, non-tithe paying self is quite satisfying. It's sad and amusing to see people try to fit you into their worldview. I occasionally bump into people in my ward at the corner convenience store when I get a morning coffee. At first it was very ...
- Mon Dec 16, 2024 1:21 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: How do we know the Church has repented?
- Replies: 12
- Views: 8004
Re: How do we know the Church has repented?
And DCT is not a path I desire to participate in. What do you mean by "DCT"? Probably Divine Command Theory? Where anything God says is right, regardless of other moral frameworks. I.e. Nephi killing Laban to steal his stuff is good because Got told him to, even though murder and theft are ...
- Mon Dec 16, 2024 1:17 pm
- Forum: Support
- Topic: What is the most harmful lie the Church has perpetrated?
- Replies: 17
- Views: 10178
Re: What is the most harmful lie the Church has perpetrated?
Here's another. Substituting the words "God" and "we/us" for "Church." Listen to just about any conference talk by one of the Q15. Every time they tell you what God wants you to do, or needs you to do, you can do that little word switch to make their statement more accurate. They obviously have ...
- Mon Dec 16, 2024 1:14 pm
- Forum: Support
- Topic: What is the most harmful lie the Church has perpetrated?
- Replies: 17
- Views: 10178
Re: What is the most harmful lie the Church has perpetrated?
Sustaining callings in church. The sham of sustaining callings flips voting on it's head completely. Instead of private ballots everyone sees each other. Instead of votes meaning something, it doesn't matter if you vote opposed - the only possible action is that the person who voted opposed gets ...
- Thu Nov 21, 2024 12:40 pm
- Forum: Support
- Topic: What is the most harmful lie the Church has perpetrated?
- Replies: 17
- Views: 10178
Re: What is the most harmful lie the Church has perpetrated?
Probably not the most harmful, but here are a couple lies that take my breath away when I think about them. Separating Joseph Smith's murder from polygamy. Somehow I didn't connect the dots from Joseph Smith's murder to the printing press destruction to polygamy for years after no longer believing ...
- Wed Nov 06, 2024 2:12 pm
- Forum: The Coffee Shop
- Topic: Keeping up with Trump
- Replies: 1105
- Views: 5544433
Re: Keeping up with Trump
Man, what a night. It makes sense that the US wouldn't escape the incumbent backlash going around the world right now, but I was hoping. The post-COVID inflation shock was real and probably drove much of this, despite the US rebound significantly outperforming most other developed countries. I fear ...
- Mon Nov 04, 2024 4:53 pm
- Forum: Support
- Topic: Ward and Stake Combining
- Replies: 5
- Views: 4004
Re: Ward and Stake Combining
I attended sacrament meeting yesterday and it was packed. For the believers there it seemed pretty special to have all the pews full again with the crowd filling half the gym. My DW had a 2 hour meeting as a primary presidency to review options because the number of children has tripled. It is nice ...
- Thu Oct 31, 2024 12:49 pm
- Forum: Support
- Topic: Ward and Stake Combining
- Replies: 5
- Views: 4004
Ward and Stake Combining
It looks like my ward and a neighboring ward are combining, in addition to my stake and a neighboring stake combining. Attendance has been pretty sparse since covid, so this is an overdue change. This is in Salt Lake County. I'm not looking forward to a bunch of new faces who may not know to just ...
- Thu Oct 31, 2024 12:46 pm
- Forum: Support
- Topic: How organized should religion be?
- Replies: 6
- Views: 4472
Re: How organized should religion be?
I do miss the oneness I felt with my fellow mormons as a believer. I don't think you get that closeness without a significant amount of organization. And part of that organization requires demanding support from those within the organization so that they feel part of it. I get something similar from ...
- Wed Oct 16, 2024 1:25 pm
- Forum: Support
- Topic: Beards, etc.
- Replies: 13
- Views: 11423
Re: Beards, etc.
In the morridor, my current bishop shaved his 15+ year goatee when he became bishop a couple years ago. One of his counselors has a beard. All the male stake leadership are clean shaven. I think there is more pressure on bishops and "above". But I suspect that is dwindling the further we get from ...
- Tue Oct 15, 2024 10:49 am
- Forum: Support
- Topic: BoM "in a different realm"
- Replies: 17
- Views: 10814
Re: BoM "in a different realm"
Oaks has the critical thinking horsepower of a nematode. But I agree with him about the Book of Mormon; it is either historical or it isn't. Until Mr. Oaks can prove that there were Nephites, logic compels me to stick with the latter. His takes are epistemologically violent, any non-indoctrinated ...
- Mon Oct 14, 2024 1:59 pm
- Forum: Support
- Topic: Praise to the Man! (Cap'n Salty)
- Replies: 17
- Views: 11418
Re: Praise to the Man! (Cap'n Salty)
Thanks Cap!
- Mon Oct 14, 2024 1:58 pm
- Forum: Support
- Topic: BoM "in a different realm"
- Replies: 17
- Views: 10814
Re: BoM "in a different realm"
This perspective was slapped down pretty hard by Oaks in the opening of a FARMS dinner speech in 1993 - https://rsc.byu.edu/historicity-latter-day-saint-scriptures/historicity-book-mormon . Some who term themselves believing Latter-day Saints are advocating that Latter-day Saints should “abandon c ...
- Mon Oct 14, 2024 1:49 pm
- Forum: Support
- Topic: Did I get excommunicated?
- Replies: 7
- Views: 6690
Re: Did I get excommunicated?
I'm still here!! Thanks for getting things up and running again! It felt weird not doing NOMference. But Oaks will probably in charge in April, so we'll have to do something special for that sh!tshow!!! I missed NOMference too. It's nice to commiserate here. Although this session there was not much ...