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by shadow
Mon Sep 17, 2018 8:13 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Traditional Bouncing of the Baby
Replies: 11
Views: 7300

Re: Traditional Bouncing of the Baby

We had a bishop who asked a bunch of elders to give a how-to-consecrated-oil demonstion in sacrament meeting. They stood in a circle and held the olive oil bottle in their right hands while each placed his left hand on the shoulder of the next guy. Then while one of them said the magic words, for w...
by shadow
Tue Jul 31, 2018 10:34 am
Forum: Support
Topic: More Baptism Stuff
Replies: 18
Views: 11316

Re: More Baptism Stuff

I have been through this twice and have another one coming up this fall (and two more after that a few years down the road). Around the time my first was approaching 8, I was coming to acceptance that mormon priesthood isn't really what it's claimed to be, and I didn't feel comfortable participating...
by shadow
Thu Jul 05, 2018 10:41 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Church Growth: Boy, were they wrong
Replies: 17
Views: 13749

Re: Church Growth: Boy, were they wrong

This interest in Missouri is only to keep up a presence because the CoC and the Temple Lot group are there. Well, that and the fact of the many prophecies made by Joseph Smith about events that have taken place, and supposedly will take place in Missouri and environs. It would be difficult to write...
by shadow
Thu Jul 05, 2018 10:32 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Go to Elder's Quorum Shinasai
Replies: 8
Views: 5920

Re: Go to Elder's Quorum Shinasai

Linked wrote:
Tue Jul 03, 2018 1:05 pm
I hope so. She seems like the kind of person that really prefers to have things her way. Or maybe I'm projecting my mother onto her...
:lol: :lol:
by shadow
Tue Jun 19, 2018 1:17 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Happy Priesthood Day!
Replies: 4
Views: 2260

Re: Happy Priesthood Day!

Most accurate thread subject ever. We didn't go to church on Mother's day because my TBM wife wanted to sleep in and have breakfast in bed. But when it came to Father's day, she insisted we be at church. And the talks were just as to be expected. "My dad is so great because we have the priesthood in...
by shadow
Mon Jun 04, 2018 11:25 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Can someone catch me up please?
Replies: 30
Views: 21112

Re: Can someone catch me up please?

Dude, that's not how you told it the first time. You said it was just Corsair surrounded by scripts and glory, whatever that means, and that he forgave you for hanging out on mormondialogue.org. You need to be careful so you don't give people a faithless crisis. And what about Capn' Salty??? Each v...
by shadow
Mon Jun 04, 2018 11:21 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Youth fireside ?
Replies: 33
Views: 18908

Re: Youth fireside ?

3) Stay on the covenant path - self-assess how you are doing, repent and come back on it. The "covenant path"... Do they really think these stupid little catch-phrases and buzzwords actually accomplish anything? Seriously, how much of their billions are they paying some marketing schmuck to come up...
by shadow
Wed May 23, 2018 1:17 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: The War Against True Church History
Replies: 29
Views: 22991

Re: The War Against True Church History

Hagoth wrote:
Fri May 11, 2018 11:40 am
you have to be prepared to either keep your situation secret or be villainized by the people who reside in states 1 and 2 who will reinvent your hard-earned humility as a particularly nasty form of pride.
This rings so true. Admitting that I was wrong is somehow prideful. Ugh.
by shadow
Tue May 22, 2018 12:40 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Second One to have a FC?
Replies: 14
Views: 9691

Re: Second One to have a FC?

The non-believer will not be welcomed any time soon. :( I've wondered how much of this is intentional. I mean, the church teaches that happiness comes from membership in the church and adherence to the gospel. If apostates aren't happy, that proves their point. They don't acknowledge that the sourc...
by shadow
Wed Apr 25, 2018 11:44 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Strategy #9: How to stop wearing garments.
Replies: 15
Views: 9028

Re: Strategy #9: How to stop wearing garments.

So funny! :lol: I have to remember the phrase priesthood antennae. It was hard for me to stop wearing garments. I took the covenants seriously and even as my belief began to wither away, I still felt supersticious about taking them off. I was legitimately afraid of what would happen if I did. The b...
by shadow
Wed Apr 18, 2018 4:18 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Why I love the essays
Replies: 54
Views: 36851

Re: Why I love the essays

https://proxy.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.lds.org%2Fbc%2Fcontent%2Fldsorg%2Fchurch%2Fnews%2F580-Nelson%2520MTC.jpg&f=1 Here you go, he's uh.. Happier? in this one? Nope. I'm looking at his eyes. His mouth and lines show smile, but his eyes, way in there, don't. This smile is shallow and ...
by shadow
Wed Apr 18, 2018 3:56 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: TBM in laws in my ward..
Replies: 26
Views: 14458

Re: TBM in laws in my ward..

c) Things to note: - if you do not believe in God, you die, & there is no God - then you no longer exist & it is over - if you believe in God, you die, & there is no God - then you no longer exist & it is over, but you lived a good life Wow! So it's impossible to live a good life if you don't belie...
by shadow
Wed Apr 18, 2018 11:46 am
Forum: Support
Topic: How to get out of cleaning the church...
Replies: 27
Views: 17151

Re: How to get out of cleaning the church...

I struggle with this one. I'm not opposed to helping clean the building since my family uses it. However, I am opposed to the method of assigning my family a week without asking for volunteers or for any input on which week might work, and then announcing it from the pulpit to compel with peer press...
by shadow
Wed Apr 18, 2018 11:30 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Strategy #9: How to stop wearing garments.
Replies: 15
Views: 9028

Re: Strategy #9: How to stop wearing garments.

I was not expecting a "trust the process" reference in the middle of that. Well done. It's actually a really good analogy. I haven't worn garments in a couple years, but it was a process to get to that point. I can definitely empathize with Graey's comment. Before my disaffection, the garment symbol...
by shadow
Tue Apr 03, 2018 2:29 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: New Ministering Program
Replies: 55
Views: 28800

Re: New Ministering Program

If this follows the familiar pattern, then this new program won't last long. When I was an EQP, we were also supposed to conduct quarterly PPI's, which is basically the same thing. We would talk about home teaching, yada, yada, yada, that's nice but do more. No one was ever available for these thin...
by shadow
Mon Apr 02, 2018 4:20 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Nelson seems to be a true believing millenarian
Replies: 9
Views: 6522

Re: Nelson seems to be a true believing millenarian

He's been giving tribes/gathering of Israel talks for the longest time. He came to my mission at the beginning of this millenium and gave basically the same talk he's given in conference in the almost 20 years since. (On a related note, my mission happens to be one of the new temple announcements. I...
by shadow
Thu Mar 22, 2018 10:38 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Joseph Bishop: what does he actually confess?
Replies: 32
Views: 19796

Re: Joseph Bishop: what does he actually confess?

The hits keep coming. She reported it to her bishop in 1987. Any guesses as to what he told her? But the bishop, who asked not to be named, said in an interview with The Tribune that he didn’t believe her, nor did he tell any superiors. ”I felt the allegations were groundless,” he recalled this wee...
by shadow
Wed Mar 21, 2018 5:05 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Joseph Bishop: what does he actually confess?
Replies: 32
Views: 19796

Re: Joseph Bishop: what does he actually confess?

https://www.deseretnews.com/article/900013479/woman-levels-accusations-against-former-mtc-president.html This Deseret News article is schizophrenic. They are more than happy to paint the victim as not credible, but the quote from the County attorney is quite strong. I'm frankly surprised it made it...
by shadow
Thu Feb 22, 2018 11:08 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Women in math at BYU
Replies: 45
Views: 25121

Re: Women in math at BYU

My favorite thing about this story is that I came across it completely outside of the DAMU. So, I guess it's not just BYU sports that make a good missionary.
by shadow
Thu Feb 08, 2018 1:55 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: State of the Union and Mormon Connection
Replies: 11
Views: 6144

Re: State of the Union and Mormon Connection

The church definitely doesn't allow abuse, right?
https://www.sltrib.com/pb/news/politics ... ere-abused