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- Fri Aug 03, 2018 10:02 am
- Forum: Support
- Topic: What is your freedom worth?
- Replies: 29
- Views: 16892
Re: What is your freedom worth?
A better question for me is, why might I be more willing to pretend for money then I am for relationships? In both cases you are giving you life force, your very being, for something cold that will never reciprocate. Yeah - but that sounds like what most folks already do for a living. Big picture, ...
- Thu Aug 02, 2018 3:41 pm
- Forum: Support
- Topic: "Why don't you want to believe?"
- Replies: 26
- Views: 14536
Re: "Why don't you want to believe?"
These kinds of questions have always confused me. I don't understand why anyone would want to believe anything. Our ability to understand our own reality seems so limited that it seems all we can hope for is to gather as much data as we can and form tentative hypotheses about what things might exist...
- Tue Jul 31, 2018 2:41 pm
- Forum: Support
- Topic: How much do the Q15 and Q70s really know
- Replies: 15
- Views: 8998
Re: How much do the Q15 and Q70s really know
My guess is that actual knowledge of the various issues varies greatly across this group. Some have investigated a bit and found answers that work for them, but many others are probably only vaguely aware and lump it all in with the expected challenges of the "last days." I've been amazed at how gen...
- Sun Jul 22, 2018 5:58 pm
- Forum: Support
- Topic: Impractical, uncomfortable, and unsightly
- Replies: 24
- Views: 15631
Re: Impractical, uncomfortable, and unsightly
Check your downloads folder. The link is direct to a pdf that may have downloaded without you noticing.
- Mon Apr 16, 2018 7:14 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Prophet accommodations
- Replies: 13
- Views: 9508
Re: Prophet accommodations
Slavereeno, your post really puts the situation in perspective. The apostles have two options. Stay with members and get adoration, attention, and hero worshipped. Or Stay at a hotel and eat at Chili's to earn loyalty points, go unnoticed, and a bad bout of diarrhea. What would you choose? I'll tak...
- Wed Apr 04, 2018 7:26 pm
- Forum: Support
- Topic: Access Denied
- Replies: 13
- Views: 10414
Re: Access Denied
It'll be as easy or as hard as you make it. If there's anything I've learned since becoming disaffected, it's that the pressure to perform in church assignments is entirely self-created. If all you do is say hi in the hallway, and you say that in the interview, what's the EQP going to do? Maybe try...
- Mon Apr 02, 2018 11:10 am
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Joe Bishop 2nd Annointing - is there a quandry here?
- Replies: 9
- Views: 5859
Re: Joe Bishop 2nd Annointing - is there a quandry here?
While I agree that it is all make-believe, my understanding of second anointing/calling and election doctrine is that the recipient is guaranteed exaltation in due course, but will pay a steep price for their transgressions before being eventually delivered. I've always understood this to mean that ...
- Thu Mar 29, 2018 6:23 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Changed my mind about watching conference
- Replies: 9
- Views: 5218
Re: Changed my mind about watching conference
Let us know how it goes. As for me and my house, we shall watch something else.
- Wed Mar 21, 2018 8:07 pm
- Forum: Support
- Topic: What should you share with the Bishop?
- Replies: 32
- Views: 22386
Re: What should you share with the Bishop?
Never tell a bishop anything.
- Mon Mar 19, 2018 8:53 pm
- Forum: Support
- Topic: Patrick Mason Talk
- Replies: 21
- Views: 11243
Re: Patrick Mason Talk
The talk is nicely written and contains some beautiful sentiments. However, the path he suggests would necessarily require an open admission that the church is not literally true in any meaningful sense. And once you concede literal truth as the foundation and become the organization Mason suggests,...
- Mon Mar 05, 2018 8:35 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Rumors?
- Replies: 69
- Views: 46971
Re: Rumors?
- Sat Feb 24, 2018 7:49 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Is coffee evil?
- Replies: 54
- Views: 30413
Re: Is coffee evil?
Coffee is the sacred elixir of consciousness.
- Sun Jan 14, 2018 9:26 pm
- Forum: Support
- Topic: What do they do with TSMs stuff?
- Replies: 5
- Views: 3185
Re: What do they do with TSMs stuff?
I would assume it is the same as when any of us die. His heirs (kids, I assume) inherit his personal effects and dispose of it as seems best to them. Some stuff - like personal papers, etc. - might be transferred to church ownership by pre-arranged agreement. I could be wrong, but I can't see why it...
- Fri Jan 12, 2018 10:44 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Trying to Get a New Monson Obituary Written by NYT
- Replies: 42
- Views: 31657
Re: Trying to Get a New Monson Obituary Written by NYT
In comparison to the other "obits" it runs on notable deaths, I found the tone of Monson's deeply disrespectful. I do get this, and even why Sis M. thinks so, that they did in fact focus on the negative rather than the positive the man did in his life. I really do. But think of it this way; we only...
- Fri Jan 12, 2018 10:28 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: The Hypocrisy of President Monson’s Funeral
- Replies: 11
- Views: 5174
Re: The Hypocrisy of President Monson’s Funeral
Meh. I strongly suspect that Boyd Packer was the only one of the GAs who actually believed that. I've been to many an LDS funeral and no one has ever paid that advice much attention - even when bishops ask them to.
- Mon Dec 11, 2017 8:38 pm
- Forum: Support
- Topic: Back on the Mission Dream
- Replies: 13
- Views: 6716
Re: Back on the Mission Dream
I have that 'nightmare' from time to time too. In mine I have the sense that I have already served multiple missions - as well as, "Hey, I'm married now. WTH!" But she's not included. Pretty much this. Getting less frequent but i'm closing in on 50. I always wake up relieved and pissed off at the s...
- Mon Jul 24, 2017 1:49 pm
- Forum: Support
- Topic: Turning in TR
- Replies: 33
- Views: 19695
Re: Turning in TR
I've done this (giving back a TR) before. In all honesty, it felt GREAT to say (to the SP1C)-- I don't want this. This is basically the reason I'm thinking of doing it. If turning your TR in will give you a sense of finality or closure - go for it! On the other hand, my experience has been that qui...
- Mon Jul 10, 2017 7:52 am
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Changing The Church The Church Through Changing The Culture
- Replies: 21
- Views: 13051
Re: Changing The Church The Church Through Changing The Culture
I don't comment much, but feel moved to weigh in on this one. I hope you are able to assist with some small positive change in your corner of the vineyard should you so choose, but in the big picture nothing is going to change. So, no, the needle will not be budged. And no, it is not worth the effor...
- Fri Jun 30, 2017 8:06 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Temple Prayer Roles
- Replies: 17
- Views: 10852
Re: Temple Prayer Roles
I could be wrong here, but isn't the actual prayer used in a temple prayer circle very scripted? Between Christ's warning in Matthew 6:7 and general church practice, it always struck me as a very blatant "vain repetition." Yes, very scripted. I was an ordinance worker for a while and we were basica...
- Fri May 19, 2017 4:58 pm
- Forum: Support
- Topic: A different Q15----------
- Replies: 37
- Views: 19540
Re: A different Q15----------
My honest answer is that I've never really understood the question - or at least it has never made much sense to me. Since there seems no reliable way to find out about the existence of God, I have never felt like I had enough evidence to base a belief on. I guess I neither believe nor disbelieve pe...