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by Apologeticsislying
Sat Jul 11, 2020 12:08 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: My Interview with Brian Hauglid is Up!
Replies: 33
Views: 758

Re: My Interview with Brian Hauglid is Up!

RFM YOU ***ROCK***!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That was the BEST interview you have ever done! Brian Hauglid is a hero for his honesty. And you had better allow my comment I made, it says it is in moderation, so please accept it. I listened to it all in one setting. SENSATIONAL! Give me a...
by Apologeticsislying
Mon Jun 29, 2020 4:56 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Biblical scholarship vs the Book of Mormon
Replies: 33
Views: 1177

Re: Biblical scholarship vs the Book of Mormon

This is the crux of my apostasy. The book of mormon requires things of the bible that the bible simply isn't. Most revolve around biblical literalness that can only be handwaved away with a claim for a trickster god; an equally untenable position. One of the real testimony killers to me also. Yes, ...
by Apologeticsislying
Mon Jun 29, 2020 4:48 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: RFM and Evangelicals. Out of the pan and into the fire?
Replies: 15
Views: 578

Re: RFM and Evangelicals. Out of the pan and into the fire?

Reuben FWIW, my #1 requirement for a god is that it doesn't really want to be worshipped. A staggeringly STRONG point. The other point I would have is that it actually has love and shows it...in unmistakable terms, not vague faithy sort of ways. Another one is that it just exists with us here and n...
by Apologeticsislying
Sun Jun 28, 2020 7:34 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: RFM and Evangelicals. Out of the pan and into the fire?
Replies: 15
Views: 578

Re: RFM and Evangelicals. Out of the pan and into the fire?

I listened to most of it as well and had similar feelings. These folks had left Mormonism and found faith in Christ without all of the Mormon baggage. I’m glad they have found something that they enjoy and works for them. It was odd because most who stop believing in Mormonism stop believing in God...
by Apologeticsislying
Sat Jun 27, 2020 5:14 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: The word eloheim.
Replies: 4
Views: 220

Re: The word eloheim.

Hagoth
Joseph Smith sad: All I want is to get the simple, naked truth, and the whole truth. (HC:6, p. 475-76)
"Some truths aren't very useful." Boyd K. Packer
by Apologeticsislying
Thu Jun 25, 2020 6:03 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Request: short list of JS paper juiciest bits?
Replies: 6
Views: 323

Re: Request: short list of JS paper juiciest bits?

What sealed the deal for me that Joseph Smith was a traitor was his being anointed literal king, and his followers being and going through the same, only in super top secret. This is entirely, 100% TOTALLY at variance with everything about having America free under the Constitution. I even had the h...
by Apologeticsislying
Wed Jun 17, 2020 9:25 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: The Interpreter Foundation
Replies: 10
Views: 372

Re: The Interpreter Foundation

Hagoth The latest FAIR newlsetter has an opening statement by Steve Densley, the Executive Vice President of the foundation. In it he talks about how difficult it is to change peoples' minds because of confirmation bias and boomerang effect (aka backfire effect). No. The way to change minds, the tr...
by Apologeticsislying
Wed Jun 10, 2020 9:09 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Biblical scholarship vs the Book of Mormon
Replies: 33
Views: 1177

Re: Biblical scholarship vs the Book of Mormon

graey I'm always boggled about how members will spout off about how critically important it is to have the gospel in our lives, it is central to EVERYTHING we do, our lives would be lost without all that it brings, and yet, most of them never actually study it. They don't need to study it these day...
by Apologeticsislying
Fri May 29, 2020 9:51 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: The Archaeology of Ancient Holy of Holies Used Weed for Their Rituals
Replies: 8
Views: 304

The Archaeology of Ancient Holy of Holies Used Weed for Their Rituals

https://www.livescience.com/cannabis-shrine-israel.html So this is where ancient prophets got the Spirit...... Cannabis, otherwise known as "weed" you know, Satan's drug Marra-G-wanna, has been discovered in ancient Israel and Tel Arad on the sacred altars of the ancient temples! I truly seriously c...
by Apologeticsislying
Sat May 23, 2020 12:08 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: And Jesus Smiled...
Replies: 6
Views: 313

Re: And Jesus Smiled...

Hagoth Imagine if Jeffrey Holland gave his Wrong Roads talk in conference and when he got to the punchline about how God gives you the wrong answers so you'll know the right ones when you stumble across them, everyone erupted in howls of laughter that went on for a solid minute. We all did, we were...
by Apologeticsislying
Tue May 12, 2020 5:09 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Is The ANY record of Prophecy About Corona?
Replies: 18
Views: 884

Re: Is The ANY record of Prophecy About Corona?

I was going through an old archive and found one from some guy with a beard (ancient prophet?). What he said sounded profound, "I do not always drink beer, but when I do, I prefer Dos Equis". Take that Corona!!! :lol: I LOVE this bird, hangin out with us giving us things to smile and laugh about. T...
by Apologeticsislying
Wed May 06, 2020 10:54 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Intellectually malleability, you know, for church standing
Replies: 9
Views: 1151

Re: Intellectually malleability, you know, for church standing

Ah yes, good ole Edwin Goble. Well evidence always trumps what one "feels" to be right, so to defer to priesthood authoritah without any evidence is ridiculous. It's evidence alone which has always established reality on our human scale. Nothing else has ever taken its place. Wishful thinking, doctr...
by Apologeticsislying
Mon May 04, 2020 5:52 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: If I could ask them one question . . . Come Follow Me, Lesson 18
Replies: 9
Views: 1653

Re: If I could ask them one question . . . Come Follow Me, Lesson 18

moksha wrote:
Mon May 04, 2020 10:27 am
Hagoth wrote:
Mon May 04, 2020 6:30 am
I'll have to pull out my McDonaldist apologetics on this one.
FAIRMcDonalds would point out that the letters M, C, and L are all used in the Roman counting system. This establishes the claim of the world's one true fries.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

I LOVE this group......
by Apologeticsislying
Mon May 04, 2020 5:51 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: If I could ask them one question . . . Come Follow Me, Lesson 18
Replies: 9
Views: 1653

Re: If I could ask them one question . . . Come Follow Me, Lesson 18

Ya know, I just gotta say that I think it *would* make a difference if Christ was crucified on the Golden Arches. That would mean it happened during my life time. Those Golden Arches didn’t exist when I was born, so there would be a recent historical record, and maybe we could check out a few detai...
by Apologeticsislying
Mon May 04, 2020 5:47 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Quest for the Nephite Remnant
Replies: 5
Views: 1181

Re: Quest for the Nephite Remnant

Samuel the Lamanite's code name for modern times was Tonto. The tv series "The Lone Ranger" was designed to give him secret signals about the Last Days, and when it was time to gather the hiding Three Nephites.
by Apologeticsislying
Sat May 02, 2020 8:29 am
Forum: The Coffee Shop
Topic: Brewsterites and the Oatman Massacre
Replies: 4
Views: 1145

Re: Brewsterites and the Oatman Massacre

Fascinating story! The Brewsterites are an interesting group. As I understand it, David Whitmer became the leader if the Brewsterite church at one point, with James C. Brewster acting as the Prophet, Seer, and Revelator. Like Joseph, Brewster had been visited by Moroni and dictated books of scriptu...
by Apologeticsislying
Tue Apr 28, 2020 10:47 am
Forum: The Coffee Shop
Topic: The Trumpster
Replies: 0
Views: 1340

The Trumpster

by Apologeticsislying
Fri Apr 17, 2020 7:55 pm
Forum: The Coffee Shop
Topic: My Best Art Piece
Replies: 2
Views: 475

Re: My Best Art Piece

Hagoth wrote:
Fri Apr 17, 2020 6:37 pm
Awesome. Did she win the fight?
Yes, she said dragon steak tastes smokey....... :lol:
by Apologeticsislying
Fri Apr 17, 2020 6:30 pm
Forum: The Coffee Shop
Topic: My Best Art Piece
Replies: 2
Views: 475

My Best Art Piece

https://www.pinterest.com/pin/684687949587845367/

Thanks for viewing. I am new to Pinterest, so this is an interesting way to display my art. This one is a fantasy with my daughter fighting dragons. She is an award winning fantasy author, with several of her books being rated #1 on Amazon.com.
by Apologeticsislying
Thu Apr 16, 2020 5:49 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Did Oaks really say that?
Replies: 39
Views: 3295

Re: Did Oaks really say that?

Nibbler And now with Oaks' comments some variant of the teaching is back on center stage. My initial take wasn't Oaks softening a position and being progressive, I took it as more of a sign that church leaders are old and haven't fully let go of things from the past. Just remember those essays are ...