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by annotatedbom
Thu Apr 01, 2021 3:23 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: An April Fools' Reminder: Mormon Youth Sex Interviews Are Foolish
Replies: 5
Views: 251

An April Fools' Reminder: Mormon Youth Sex Interviews Are Foolish

Notice to parents who let Mormon leaders interview their kids: https://a-bom.github.io/notice.gif I think all the Mormon sex interviews are foolish, but especially the interviews of youth. Some five years ago I decided to put an end to at least one foolish practice - the interviewing of my minor chi...
by annotatedbom
Thu Apr 01, 2021 8:50 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Forced Turning Point
Replies: 120
Views: 4101

Re: Forced Turning Point

Brother Graey, As I normally have done as a believer and a former believer when someone receives such a calling, I offer my congratulations and my condolences. The congrats and condolences mean even more in my mind because of the interesting spot you find yourself in as a PIMO. I have no suggestions...
by annotatedbom
Sat Feb 27, 2021 1:01 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: The word Mormon
Replies: 39
Views: 1692

Re: The word Mormon

Hey Atlanticmike, welcome to NOM. It's a great place because of the folks here. I hope you enjoy your time here. Like you and others have pointed out, the name change is a huge problem in consistency. If the Church were really being led by an all-knowing, all-powerful God, why all the flip-flopping?...
by annotatedbom
Thu Feb 18, 2021 6:20 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Crap
Replies: 49
Views: 2185

Re: Crap

Just a quick update. DW seems to prefer staying together in spite of me grabbing a morning coffee. Things are largely back to how they were before, which I am happy with. Hopefully she is too. I do wonder if she is just biding her time while she works with a lawyer, but I guess I won't know until t...
by annotatedbom
Wed Feb 10, 2021 10:48 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Examples in the BoM where you can show *how* Joseph Smith authored it
Replies: 21
Views: 1221

Re: Examples in the BoM where you can show *how* Joseph Smith authored it

I have mentioned this before but I think it is a good example of Joseph winging it as he was dictating. These are what I call the "oops!" moments, when Joseph catches himself saying something wrong or stupid, and then tries to smooth it over. It also presents another big problem for tight translati...
by annotatedbom
Wed Feb 10, 2021 10:31 am
Forum: Support
Topic: progress with spouse?
Replies: 15
Views: 612

Re: progress with spouse?

It can be very lonely at times, for both spouses. As Jung said: Loneliness does not come from having no people about one, but from being unable to communicate the things that seem important to oneself, or from holding certain views which others find inadmissible. Just don't drink coffee... Hahahaaa...
by annotatedbom
Wed Feb 10, 2021 10:29 am
Forum: Support
Topic: progress with spouse?
Replies: 15
Views: 612

Re: progress with spouse?

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by annotatedbom
Wed Feb 10, 2021 10:23 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Sexism of exmormon men
Replies: 26
Views: 1294

Re: Sexism of exmormon men

Thank you for posting this link. She means: Just because people leave the church, it doesn't mean that they stop having thoughts or behaviors that are sexist or racist or prejudiced against other groups of people. Leaving the church doesn't mean that people automatically lose their biased thinking ...
by annotatedbom
Wed Feb 10, 2021 9:40 am
Forum: Support
Topic: progress with spouse?
Replies: 15
Views: 612

Re: progress with spouse?

I've been out to my wife for almost 11 years now. What a rollercoaster ride it's been. Like others here, for the first year or two I was active enough in the Church that I think it helped feed her denial about my complete disbelief in the truth and authority claims of la Iglesia. She's moved beyond ...
by annotatedbom
Wed Feb 10, 2021 8:54 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Crap
Replies: 49
Views: 2185

Re: Crap

Linked, I'm sorry to hear you and your wife are dealing with this. Trying to have a marriage thrive when one is TBM and the other a former believer can be so difficult at times. Nelson likes to change things. Alcohol and tobacco... eh, okay. Coffee and tea... what are you kidding? It's high time the...
by annotatedbom
Sun Dec 13, 2020 7:50 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: If I could ask them one question . . . Come Follow Me, Lesson 49
Replies: 10
Views: 993

If I could ask them one question . . . Come Follow Me, Lesson 49

For Come Follow Me, Lesson 49 , Dec 14-20, 2020, Moroni 10 If I wanted to encourage thought and try to understand devout believers better, I might ask: “ How well does the Book of Mormon promise work? ” See the Things to consider for this lesson. And, here’s a list of some other observations about t...
by annotatedbom
Sun Dec 06, 2020 8:18 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: If I could ask them one question . . . Come Follow Me, Lesson 48
Replies: 6
Views: 491

Re: If I could ask them one question . . . Come Follow Me, Lesson 48

Hagoth,

I totally agree.
See If I Could Ask ... Lesson 30 for my take on the dangerous idea that sex is like murder
by annotatedbom
Sun Dec 06, 2020 7:40 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: If I could ask them one question . . . Come Follow Me, Lesson 48
Replies: 6
Views: 491

If I could ask them one question . . . Come Follow Me, Lesson 48

Warning In this week's post I discuss sexual assault and victim shaming. If that might be too distressing, you may want to skip this one. Click here if you are comfortable reading my thoughts on this week's lesson Here’s a list of some other observations about this lesson’s reading . (The sensitive...
by annotatedbom
Sun Nov 29, 2020 12:18 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: If I could ask them one question . . . Come Follow Me, Lesson 47
Replies: 7
Views: 508

Re: If I could ask them one question . . . Come Follow Me, Lesson 47

Hagoth wrote:
Sun Nov 29, 2020 11:43 am
What a huge financial savings for the church if they were only printing copies of the BoM for the intended audience.
Hahaaa :lol:
by annotatedbom
Sun Nov 29, 2020 7:30 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: If I could ask them one question . . . Come Follow Me, Lesson 47
Replies: 7
Views: 508

If I could ask them one question . . . Come Follow Me, Lesson 47

For Come Follow Me, Lesson 47 , Nov 30 - Dec 6, 2020, Moroni 1-6 If I wanted to encourage thought and try to understand devout believers better, I might ask: “ Who is Moroni writing to? ” See the Things to consider for this lesson. And, here’s a list of some other observations about this lesson’s re...
by annotatedbom
Sun Nov 22, 2020 6:55 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: If I could ask them one question . . . Come Follow Me, Lesson 46
Replies: 5
Views: 449

If I could ask them one question . . . Come Follow Me, Lesson 46

For Come Follow Me, Lesson 46 , Nov 23-29, 2020, Ether 12-15 If I wanted to encourage thought and try to understand devout believers better, I might ask: “ What evidence would you expect from such large civilizations? ” See the Things to consider for this lesson. And, here’s a list of some other obs...
by annotatedbom
Tue Nov 17, 2020 12:22 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: If I could ask them one question . . . Come Follow Me, Lesson 45
Replies: 14
Views: 710

Re: If I could ask them one question . . . Come Follow Me, Lesson 45

Hagoth wrote:
Mon Nov 16, 2020 8:45 pm
Stop the presses! I think I figured out both the door problem and the reason they needed bees:
https://youtu.be/V-RAsj6tIVo?t=50
Haha! another unlikely story, but the one you offer is very entertaining. I must have seen this as a kid, because it makes me feel very nostalgic.
by annotatedbom
Tue Nov 17, 2020 12:21 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: If I could ask them one question . . . Come Follow Me, Lesson 45
Replies: 14
Views: 710

Re: If I could ask them one question . . . Come Follow Me, Lesson 45

The best apologetics is to view these Book of Mormon stories in much the same way as Mother Goose stories. Plot holes and conundrums can be found in Cinderella, Sleeping Beauty, and Little Red Riding Hood. Sure these stories are more appealing than those in the Book of Mormon, but they were put tog...
by annotatedbom
Sun Nov 15, 2020 7:15 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: If I could ask them one question . . . Come Follow Me, Lesson 45
Replies: 14
Views: 710

If I could ask them one question . . . Come Follow Me, Lesson 45

For Come Follow Me, Lesson 45 , Nov 16-22, 2020, Ether 6-11 If I wanted to encourage thought and try to understand devout believers better, I might ask: “ Does the Jaredite voyage strain credulity? ” See the Things to consider for this lesson. And, here’s a list of some other observations about this...
by annotatedbom
Thu Nov 12, 2020 12:38 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Utah's Beloved Gospel is Fraud The Worst in the U.S.
Replies: 4
Views: 486

Re: Utah's Beloved Gospel is Fraud The Worst in the U.S.

Such an interesting article, especially that it's in DesNews. This part of your quote seems to be a tip of the hat to the Church's claims about how to know truth: Pugsley said Latter-day Saints are taught to trust their feelings, but while that might be a valid basis for religious decisions, ... I a...