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by glass shelf
Tue Dec 10, 2019 2:58 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Are You Spiritual
Replies: 16
Views: 275

Re: Are You Spiritual

I'm not even sure what "spiritual" means anymore, so I guess not. I'm empathetic, and I love people. I work in a job that requires me to spend a lot of face-to-face time with people in difficult situations, and I get to help them make it a little better. If I start to get emotional about something, ...
by glass shelf
Thu Dec 05, 2019 5:52 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Church Renews Opposition to ERA
Replies: 61
Views: 1452

Re: Church Renews Opposition to ERA

Why not "all people are created equal"? I think, using the language of their time, this is what the Founders thought they were saying. As our language has changed and society has progressed (in some ways) it is we who somewhat unfairly find fault in them when there was no intention on their part to...
by glass shelf
Wed Dec 04, 2019 7:17 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Church Renews Opposition to ERA
Replies: 61
Views: 1452

Re: Church Renews Opposition to ERA

"Man" and "Mankind" are both gendered terms. Just saying. They have only become gendered terms in the recent past. When I was in school (1960's) we were taught that even the term "his" in the proper context was inclusive of the female gender and that we were obligated to see it that way. It was con...
by glass shelf
Wed Dec 04, 2019 3:00 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Church Renews Opposition to ERA
Replies: 61
Views: 1452

Re: Church Renews Opposition to ERA

"Man" and "Mankind" are both gendered terms. Just saying.

What's the big issue with explicitly spelling out equal rights for women? If they "already exist" then it should be no problem to put it in writing. :D
by glass shelf
Wed Dec 04, 2019 2:46 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: It's been a while. What next
Replies: 33
Views: 888

Re: It's been a while. What next

I may be the minority on this, but I still see no reason extended family needs to be told. Did you ever have a situation where your mother called you and asked, "Oh, little Jeffret is trying 8 next month. When is his baptism? We want to be there." This is exactly why, for me, it's better to tell pe...
by glass shelf
Tue Dec 03, 2019 8:54 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: It's been a while. What next
Replies: 33
Views: 888

Re: It's been a while. What next

Band aid ripper here. :) Five years later, my kids don't know or care about Mormonism*, my parents are out of the church, and my in-laws probably still think we're all going to hell but know better than to say it to me. All in all, a win. My advice is to get your kids out. The rest is collateral dam...
by glass shelf
Wed Nov 20, 2019 3:58 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Does your spouse know you post on NOM?
Replies: 29
Views: 1163

Re: Does your spouse know you post on NOM?

Probably. I've mentioned it to him more than once. My husband (although he left the church with me) really doesn't care about Mormonism and will rarely even comment on it. The other day he was talking about schedules with our high schooler, and he mentioned early morning seminary and how awful it wa...
by glass shelf
Wed Nov 20, 2019 3:52 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Wife sent in resignation letter today
Replies: 15
Views: 484

Re: Wife sent in resignation letter today

It's a personal step, and you don't ever have to do it if you don't want to. Long before I left the church, I knew that I wouldn't want to remain on the roles forever like the "inactive" people i was constantly getting pressured to pester about the church. It took me about 6 months to resign, and th...
by glass shelf
Fri Nov 15, 2019 4:15 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Starting your own cult?
Replies: 11
Views: 358

Re: Starting your own cult?

Are people going to think of C3PO every time that you write your cult's name? Or is that just me? Will Lucasfilms/Disney try to bar you from using it because of the connection?
by glass shelf
Wed Nov 06, 2019 7:52 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: New message about choosing to believe
Replies: 23
Views: 1031

Re: New message about choosing to believe

I look forward to ignoring all mentions of this on social media or from my mil. :D

The longer I'm not Mormon, the more I can't believe that I ever was.
by glass shelf
Sun Oct 06, 2019 5:08 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: If you aren't doing conference, what are you doing?
Replies: 15
Views: 428

Re: If you aren't doing conference, what are you doing?

I'm jealous of everyone who lives close enough to the beach for that to be an option. :D

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by glass shelf
Sun Oct 06, 2019 1:47 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: If you aren't doing conference, what are you doing?
Replies: 15
Views: 428

If you aren't doing conference, what are you doing?

Five years ago, I was listening to conference on Saturday while working on a project with my husband. I had no idea it would the the last conference I heard before my shelf crashed. I do remember thinking that a lot of the advice whoever was talking was giving was absolutely awful and the last thing...
by glass shelf
Sun Oct 06, 2019 1:09 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: NOMference Fall 2019 Sunday Morning
Replies: 96
Views: 1944

Re: NOMference Fall 2019 Sunday Morning

I like Uchtdorf's positive "don't quit" message. "Our choices reveal more about us than our abilities." Those are some simple ideas I wish my kids could absorb a bit more of. +10 I'm not watching conference,but isn't that basically the Dumbledore quote?" "It is our choices that show us what we trul...
by glass shelf
Wed Oct 02, 2019 2:04 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: WOMEN can now be a witness to baptisms!
Replies: 23
Views: 832

Re: WOMEN can now be a witness to baptisms!

What does this really matter? I'm not trying to diminish it... just honestly not sure what this matters? They can witness it but they still can't perform it... so what does this really do but provide some lipstick on the fact that they are lesser than a 12 year old boy? It's progress, but isn't it ...
by glass shelf
Wed Oct 02, 2019 4:06 am
Forum: Support
Topic: A one-liner that captures your disaffection
Replies: 87
Views: 3145

Re: A one-liner that captures your disaffection

wtfluff wrote:
Mon Sep 30, 2019 3:36 pm
- I'm done giving my time and money to an organization that didn't really teach me anything more than to hate myself.
So much this. I wouldn't have realized it on day one when everything fell apart, but years later, this is it for me.
by glass shelf
Thu Sep 19, 2019 7:42 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Resume fun
Replies: 12
Views: 485

Re: Resume fun

Seems inappropriate and weird to me. I mean, I give tons of time to my kids' PTOs in my various roles, but I don't think anyone is more interested in that than they are my degrees, professional experiences and certifications when they're reading my resume so I certainly don't include it.
by glass shelf
Fri Sep 13, 2019 2:17 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Those Christian billboards
Replies: 12
Views: 667

Re: Those Christian billboards

It's pretty normal where I live for some random farmer to have up a sign warning us that we're all going to hell. (It's also normal for the JWs to be doing the exact same thing downtown.) I guess I don't understand what prompts this behavior, but I still am coming to grips with how I remained Mormon...
by glass shelf
Sat Aug 03, 2019 11:09 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Love yourself?
Replies: 13
Views: 646

Re: Love yourself?

Sometimes I wonder if there is a correlation between people who are independent (used here to mean a person who needs a very low level of approval from others) with those that go through a faith transition. I know in my own situation, I have always been quite independent (don't care about approval ...
by glass shelf
Wed Jul 31, 2019 3:06 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Newest update on my brother
Replies: 41
Views: 1944

Re: Newest update on my brother

I'm sorry for your loss, Alas.
by glass shelf
Tue Jul 30, 2019 2:45 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Frustrated
Replies: 6
Views: 411

Re: Frustrated

I think a healthy marriage has to have space for partners to disagree and be individuals. I wonder if you would be less frustrated if you invested more time into the things that you and your wife have in common. At my house, the big disagreement for my husband and I is politics. Even though we typic...