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by Mormorrisey
Fri Apr 03, 2020 2:07 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: NOMference 2020!!
Replies: 4
Views: 86

Re: NOMference 2020!!

Woot-woot! I'm so glad not to suffer alone, and we can collectively share our pain. I'm sure I'll annoy Sis M. to no end with my participation in NOMference, but a few dagger looks will be worth it!

You rock Mopag!
by Mormorrisey
Fri Apr 03, 2020 7:15 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Will it be a softer, kinder general conference?
Replies: 30
Views: 421

Re: Will it be a softer, kinder general conference?

I believe it will be a very bipolar GC. I think there will be speakers who are kinder and gentler and hopeful, and there will also be speakers who are preaching that the end is near and pay your tithing because you do not want to be separated from your family. That way there will be something for e...
by Mormorrisey
Fri Mar 27, 2020 2:19 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Still in anger stage
Replies: 16
Views: 379

Re: Still in anger stage

I'm one of those people that don't suffer fools gladly, so I only get back into the anger phase when I hear/see/experience something truly stupid that the church does, local leader asshattery (which isn't very often, honestly) or reading TBM Facebook. Unfortunately that's fairly often, but now I fin...
by Mormorrisey
Thu Mar 26, 2020 8:26 am
Forum: Support
Topic: What are you doing to protect your family against the virus?
Replies: 202
Views: 13026

Re: What are you doing to protect your family against the virus?

Hi everyone - I just came back to this thread to eat some crow. I was one of the skeptics early in this thread, and while skepticism generally serves me well, it didn't in this case. I underestimated the threat from COVID-19, and never let it be said I won't admit when I am wrong. It is way more se...
by Mormorrisey
Thu Mar 26, 2020 8:23 am
Forum: Support
Topic: What are you doing to protect your family against the virus?
Replies: 202
Views: 13026

Re: What are you doing to protect your family against the virus?

Well, time to chime in. I went to pick up my kid from a church school and now I'm in quarantine with Sis. M and this kid. It hasn't been too bad, but can I tell you how shocked I was to go to this CES school and it looked like business as usual, other than classes were cancelled? It was bizarre. I w...
by Mormorrisey
Sat Mar 07, 2020 12:49 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: The church would collapse faster if...
Replies: 25
Views: 2263

Re: The church would collapse faster if...

I think all of this is true - the church would collapse faster if most of those on the fence would just say screw it and find something else to do. And man, I wish I could join the parade. But I can't. I tend to see this more like the last few years of the communist regime in Eastern Europe - the ch...
by Mormorrisey
Thu Mar 05, 2020 8:52 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: From Apostate to the HC
Replies: 45
Views: 4022

Re: From Apostate to the HC

How much longer do you think you'll stay on the HC? I think it depends on a variety of factors. If I become more vocal, I think they'll have enough - but there's been a lot of changeover in the high council, and a lot of the older literalist group is gone. So for the most part, it's a younger crew ...
by Mormorrisey
Thu Mar 05, 2020 8:35 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: What kind of jerk makes everyone in the room wait for him to stand? Elder Bednar, apparently.
Replies: 14
Views: 1637

Re: What kind of jerk makes everyone in the room wait for him to stand? Elder Bednar, apparently.

That's a great video. It's clear that Bednar catches his wife nearly standing out of the corner of his eye, and it seems to me that he deliberately waits a little bit to teach a lesson. Jonathan Streeter has an even more interesting one on his Thinker of Thoughts youtube channel, with Elder Stevenso...
by Mormorrisey
Wed Mar 04, 2020 9:45 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Anyone Else Triggered by the Dehlin Excommunication Tapes?
Replies: 20
Views: 2225

Re: Anyone Else Triggered by the Dehlin Excommunication Tapes?

Good catches, graey. The one thing that stood out to me in those later interviews, were the rather outrageous demands that were made to John, to take down all his controversial podcasts that "talked badly about the church." As if John had the time to sift through thousands of hours of content to rem...
by Mormorrisey
Tue Mar 03, 2020 11:48 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: From Apostate to the HC
Replies: 45
Views: 4022

Re: From Apostate to the HC

Man, talk about pressure! But frankly...nothing really to report. It's been boring. Really, really, really, boring. A couple of hours of my life a couple of days a month that I'll never, ever get back. I can't believe it's been nearly two years, and absolutely nothing to report out of the ordinary. ...
by Mormorrisey
Tue Mar 03, 2020 11:52 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Anyone Else Triggered by the Dehlin Excommunication Tapes?
Replies: 20
Views: 2225

Re: Anyone Else Triggered by the Dehlin Excommunication Tapes?

I sat in on one where the single guy was 95% deaf. He hadn't had many girlfriends over the years but met a nice girl who was also deaf. They ended up succumbing to the biological forces of nature and so he came in and confessed. She wasn’t a member and didn’t understand what all the worry was about...
by Mormorrisey
Tue Mar 03, 2020 11:40 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Anyone Else Triggered by the Dehlin Excommunication Tapes?
Replies: 20
Views: 2225

Re: Anyone Else Triggered by the Dehlin Excommunication Tapes?

Mormorrisey, was your experience from the church leadership side of the table or from the excommunicated side of the table? I don’t recall specifically your story. Having sat in on ward disciplinary councils I can say the whole process is silly. Grown adults having to confess to a room full of men ...
by Mormorrisey
Mon Mar 02, 2020 1:41 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Anyone Else Triggered by the Dehlin Excommunication Tapes?
Replies: 20
Views: 2225

Anyone Else Triggered by the Dehlin Excommunication Tapes?

So I had some time to work alone over the weekend, so I took the time to download and listen to John Dehlin's tapes about his excommunication. Without a doubt, it was an exhausting listen. Even John explaining things and giving some context about each meeting sounded exhausted at the end, and stated...
by Mormorrisey
Mon Mar 02, 2020 1:22 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Leaked 2013 Uchtdorf Faith Crisis Report
Replies: 23
Views: 2088

Re: Leaked 2013 Uchtdorf Faith Crisis Report

I sent a copy of this report to my former bishop. It was in response to a couple of "ministers" (former ward members) coming by the house one day. At first we talked about the weather, then I congratulated them on 2 hour church. One of them asked if I was ready to come back, to which I replied that...
by Mormorrisey
Fri Feb 21, 2020 10:18 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Rumors of the Handbook Changes Generally True
Replies: 46
Views: 4070

Re: Rumors of the Handbook Changes Generally True

I just realized an epiphany. Minutes thinking about handbooks as TBM: 0 Minutes thinking about handbooks as NOM: 100+ What is wrong with us? :oops: :lol: So true^ I guess it's because were were taught not to think when we were TBM. We just obeyed because we really believed that whatever the brethre...
by Mormorrisey
Thu Feb 20, 2020 12:57 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: BYU announces honor code changes
Replies: 16
Views: 1506

Re: BYU announces honor code changes

https://www.heraldextra.com/news/local/education/college/byu/byu-updates-honor-code-removes-references-to-homosexual-behavior/article_e0a5b498-09c0-505e-8543-506b143b61da.html "The changes come after students protested last spring for changes to the code and how it is enforced. Since then, BYU has ...
by Mormorrisey
Wed Feb 19, 2020 5:05 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Rumors of the Handbook Changes Generally True
Replies: 46
Views: 4070

Re: Rumors of the Handbook Changes Generally True

nibbler wrote:
Wed Feb 19, 2020 4:54 pm
Section 18.9.4 (instructions for the sacrament)
7. Members partake with their right hand when possible.
Wow. Just... wow.

The mark. You missed it.
I'm still going ambidextrous when it comes to the sacrament. Keeps things lively.
by Mormorrisey
Wed Feb 19, 2020 3:42 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Rumors of the Handbook Changes Generally True
Replies: 46
Views: 4070

Re: Rumors of the Handbook Changes Generally True

See 38.4.4 Hmmm ... yeah. They just moved the restriction around and applied it to more people. This one is really bogus. I'm guessing that when really pressed, President Newsroom will interpret this as being apply to apostate groups like polygamist groups and/or the Snufferites. However, like ever...
by Mormorrisey
Wed Feb 19, 2020 10:54 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Rumors of the Handbook Changes Generally True
Replies: 46
Views: 4070

Re: Rumors of the Handbook Changes Generally True

First off, the disciplinary councils are now called "membership councils." The major change is that the fault line for having one is now no longer based on dangling genitalia. It's having a temple recommend. If you have one, and commit a major sin, you go to the stake. If you don't, it's the ward o...
by Mormorrisey
Wed Feb 19, 2020 10:09 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Rumors of the Handbook Changes Generally True
Replies: 46
Views: 4070

Re: Rumors of the Handbook Changes Generally True

The only other real interesting thing for me is that apostasy is not a mandatory court anymore. You can have one, if it's "serious," and they've added the proviso about apostasy if someone is "showing a pattern of intentionally working to weaken the faith and activity of Church members." Which, of c...