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by Mormorrisey
Fri Oct 18, 2019 9:16 am
Forum: Support
Topic: I choose love, full stop.
Replies: 31
Views: 722

Re: I choose love, full stop.

So by your standards the church can't teach anything because no matter what they teach someone is going to be affected negatively. Can't teach the Word of Wisdom because some people really struggle with chemical/alcohol addiction like I do. Can't teach about the law of chastity because some people ...
by Mormorrisey
Sun Oct 06, 2019 6:09 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: New TR question
Replies: 47
Views: 1331

Re: New TR question

... #7 Old: Do you support, affiliate with, or agree with any group or individual whose teachings or practices are contrary to or oppose those accepted by the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints? #7 New: Do you support or promote any teachings, practices or doctrine contrary to those of The...
by Mormorrisey
Sun Oct 06, 2019 5:36 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: New TR question
Replies: 47
Views: 1331

Re: New TR question

Thanks for doing putting this in detail, jfro18. Clarified it for me, and I think you're absolutely correct about the control part. Once you start prying into my personal thoughts, we have some problems. My next TR interview is going to be even more interesting than I first thought.
by Mormorrisey
Sun Oct 06, 2019 5:26 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: NOMference Fall 2019 Sunday Afternoon
Replies: 145
Views: 2432

Re: NOMference Fall 2019 Sunday Afternoon

I had to work, and when I was home I tried to be good and not comment, but my thanks Mopag and graey for putting all of this together. It kept my sanity when I had to listen to nonsense, of which there was copious amounts. So even if people can't comment, these posts are wonderful - sneaking off to ...
by Mormorrisey
Fri Oct 04, 2019 6:04 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Elder Oaks Defines "Gender" for Us - In His Usual Bigoted Way
Replies: 91
Views: 1999

Re: Elder Oaks Defines "Gender" for Us - In His Usual Bigoted Way

Wait a minute - didn't Oaks last conference tell me not to listen to non-experts on important matters? Why the hell would I listen to a lawyer spout nonsense about biology when he clearly hasn't read any of the science? In all the literature I've read, intersex individuals make up between 1.7 and 3%...
by Mormorrisey
Wed Oct 02, 2019 12:46 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: WOMEN can now be a witness to baptisms!
Replies: 23
Views: 695

Re: WOMEN can now be a witness to baptisms!

I think it's great. The curious thing to me is that women are never specifically mentioned. Children are, but not women. I mean, that's really the story here, right? 1-Any member holding a current temple recommend, including a limited-use recommend, may serve as a witness to a proxy baptism. 2-Any ...
by Mormorrisey
Wed Oct 02, 2019 12:43 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: WOMEN can now be a witness to baptisms!
Replies: 23
Views: 695

Re: WOMEN can now be a witness to baptisms!

I don't think this will cause much cogdis to anyone who isn't already questioning... and it doesn't appear they are calling it revelation (yet) so I think it's easily brushed off as the leaders recognizing women more... I am assuming DW will find this to be a happy change and it will keep her retre...
by Mormorrisey
Wed Oct 02, 2019 10:30 am
Forum: Support
Topic: WOMEN can now be a witness to baptisms!
Replies: 23
Views: 695

Re: WOMEN can now be a witness to baptisms!

MoPag wrote:
Wed Oct 02, 2019 10:03 am
Thank you Aunt Wendy!

and Aunt Sheri!
I think their influence on Nelson is real. I think there's a lot to this.
by Mormorrisey
Wed Oct 02, 2019 10:29 am
Forum: Support
Topic: WOMEN can now be a witness to baptisms!
Replies: 23
Views: 695

Re: WOMEN can now be a witness to baptisms!

What does this really matter? I'm not trying to diminish it... just honestly not sure what this matters? They can witness it but they still can't perform it... so what does this really do but provide some lipstick on the fact that they are lesser than a 12 year old boy? It's progress, but isn't it ...
by Mormorrisey
Mon Sep 30, 2019 7:00 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: A one-liner that captures your disaffection
Replies: 81
Views: 2178

Re: A one-liner that captures your disaffection

"If Mormonism is the ultimate answer to the great test of life, God's got some 'splaining to do."
by Mormorrisey
Mon Sep 30, 2019 9:48 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: General Konference Predictions
Replies: 25
Views: 886

Re: General Konference Predictions

græy wrote:
Mon Sep 30, 2019 9:47 am
Whatever comes of it (I'm firmly in the nothing-but-bordeom" camp) I'm counting on all of the NOMference reviews to help me pick the upcoming lessons for our ward's EQ lessons this year!
NOMference rocks.

It's even better than the real thing - Bono.
by Mormorrisey
Mon Sep 30, 2019 9:34 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Terryl Givens new Video on Book of Abraham With Kerry Muhlestein
Replies: 9
Views: 314

Re: Terryl Givens new Video on Book of Abraham With Kerry Muhlestein

Just This Guy wrote:
Mon Sep 30, 2019 8:56 am
To borrow from The Bard: "“Misery acquaints a man with strange bedfellows."

In general it looks like apologist are overall loosing the war to defend the BOA. War does make for strange bedfellows.
Seems like a good as answer as any! :lol:
by Mormorrisey
Mon Sep 30, 2019 7:34 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Terryl Givens new Video on Book of Abraham With Kerry Muhlestein
Replies: 9
Views: 314

Re: Terryl Givens new Video on Book of Abraham With Kerry Muhlestein

I found this fascinating, given that Givens initially aligned himself with the Hauglid/Jensen camp when it came to the BOA and the writing of his book, and now he's sleeping with the enemy by making this video with Muhlestein? Wow. Maybe Givens sees himself as the bridge between the two camps, tryin...
by Mormorrisey
Thu Sep 26, 2019 1:58 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: In Which Brian Hales Reassures Me Joseph Wasn't a Sexual Predator
Replies: 12
Views: 539

Re: In Which Brian Hales Reassures Me Joseph Wasn't a Sexual Predator

... Joseph was sealed to 35 women and none of them left any criticism of him, even the seven that left the Church. Personally, I think they would be very displeased with accusations as those published in this list. How many of Warren Jeff's wives criticized him? Does that make him right? What the h...
by Mormorrisey
Tue Sep 24, 2019 11:54 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Feeling Forced to Choose a Path
Replies: 38
Views: 1226

Re: Feeling Forced to Choose a Path

I now return and report: this sucks. Had a 2+ hour conversation with DW last night. It wasn't fun. I was able to keep my emotions under control and she was too for the most part. A couple highlights: - Me wanting to learn more about church history and doctrine (starting in 2012) is the same as comm...
by Mormorrisey
Tue Sep 24, 2019 7:19 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Terryl Givens steps into the BoA ring
Replies: 127
Views: 3926

Re: Terryl Givens steps into the BoA ring

Boy, take a week and a half off and this thread just kept going! Just for those who are interested, here's a taste of what Givens is going to be arguing in his forthcoming book: https://faithmatters.org/what-is-the-book-of-abraham/ Interesting piece, but a certain james allred had the following comm...
by Mormorrisey
Tue Sep 24, 2019 7:05 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: New topless ruling for Utah
Replies: 43
Views: 1157

Re: New topless ruling for Utah

This is an absolutely fascinating discussion to me, as a non-Utah outsider. Women have been allowed to go topless since 1996 in the province in Canada where I live. It's been a non-issue since then, so for me to see this crop up in 2019 is utterly fascinating. I've never lived in Utah, but my desire...
by Mormorrisey
Tue Sep 24, 2019 6:52 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Feeling Forced to Choose a Path
Replies: 38
Views: 1226

Re: Feeling Forced to Choose a Path

So many of us on this board are in the same boat, and there is some great advice here, and RR's list is invaluable, including his addendums. The only advice I can give is to realize that however hard it is, don't take the fact that your wife loves the priesthood holder you over the REAL you personal...
by Mormorrisey
Tue Sep 24, 2019 6:32 am
Forum: Support
Topic: How to skip Priesthood mtg?
Replies: 19
Views: 607

Re: How to skip Priesthood mtg?

Maybe just start to "skip" by degrees, given your family situation. Start by going for about half the class, then get up like you have to go to the bathroom, and then just don't go back. And then you can start attending the hall class - every ward has one, those people who would rather talk in the h...
by Mormorrisey
Mon Sep 16, 2019 9:53 am
Forum: Mixed Faith Relationships
Topic: Tribal rhetoric and the practice of "othering"
Replies: 5
Views: 218

Re: Tribal rhetoric and the practice of

A great little thread - and it is a problem in the church. My Dad was an inactive member who had numerous challenges with the WoW, law of chastity and all the other commandments. Yet, I got along with him WAAAY more than my narcissistic and fundamentalist TBM Mom, which probably sowed the seeds of m...