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by Mormorrisey
Mon May 10, 2021 9:28 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Fiona Givens and BYU
Replies: 20
Views: 622

Re: Fiona Givens and BYU

My takeaway from all of this was that all 3 of them were sincere, smart and way too wishy-washy to ever get anything done. My prediction is that the Givens will not press the issue of Fiona's dismissal and they'll quietly do their thing just enough to make a few bucks but not get ex'd. I think this...
by Mormorrisey
Mon May 10, 2021 9:23 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Fiona Givens and BYU
Replies: 20
Views: 622

Re: Fiona Givens and BYU

Hang on a sec - apparently Fiona wasn't canned by the Maxwell folks, she just left voluntarily to "focus on her own study, writing and other personal endeavors."

https://faithmatters.org/statement-from ... na-givens/

Nothing to see here, folks, nothing to see.

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by Mormorrisey
Fri Apr 30, 2021 8:06 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Keys To Sexuality
Replies: 18
Views: 926

Re: Keys To Sexuality

hmb wrote:
Fri Apr 30, 2021 4:36 am
My grandparents, very TBM, had never seen each other naked.
Apparently, neither had Elder Mark E Peterson and his wife. Although that's an "oral" report from someone who heard it. No written record.

But I agree with the general tone of this thread. Money and sex - the keys to Mormon control.
by Mormorrisey
Sun Apr 18, 2021 6:40 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Did Natasha Helfer-Parker get Exed?
Replies: 82
Views: 3424

Re: Did Netasha Helfer-Parker get Exed?

Absolutely insane... from Anthony Miller: Update: Natasha’s pre-approved witnesses (including active members of the Church) were not allowed into the building to use the restroom. Natasha had all her notes on her phone with the remarks she wanted to share, and the Stake President required that she ...
by Mormorrisey
Sun Apr 18, 2021 6:28 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Did Natasha Helfer-Parker get Exed?
Replies: 82
Views: 3424

Re: Did Netasha Helfer-Parker get Exed?

So everyone is busy tonight, and I decided to just try to sneak in a glance at the vigil for Natasha to see what was going on. Apparently, Natasha's computer wasn't working properly, so she wanted to use her phone to access her notes. They were so worried that she would record the council, they dema...
by Mormorrisey
Fri Apr 16, 2021 1:50 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Did Natasha Helfer-Parker get Exed?
Replies: 82
Views: 3424

Re: Did Netasha Helfer-Parker get Exed?

So I decided to comb through the Handbook to see what it says about masturbation. And you know what? It mentions it once. Once. And it is only mentioned in section 32.6.4.1, that having a council is not necessary for it. So how "immoral" is it, if you don't even need a membership council for it? Not...
by Mormorrisey
Fri Apr 16, 2021 11:23 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Did Natasha Helfer-Parker get Exed?
Replies: 82
Views: 3424

Re: Did Netasha Helfer-Parker get Exed?

Over on Wheat and Tares, Hawkgirl has a blog up about this and discussing how the church has always been kind of anti psychology. And, yes, the church leaders don’t like psychology. That's a great article, and also what you have written here, alas. I think the most interesting question for hawkgirl...
by Mormorrisey
Fri Apr 16, 2021 11:18 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Did Natasha Helfer-Parker get Exed?
Replies: 82
Views: 3424

Re: Did Netasha Helfer-Parker get Exed?

Years ago I read several of Netasha's post on her question to find the LDS position on masturbation. As I mentioned above, I believe her conclusion was "The LDS church has no position" (in so many words). Pretty much, what she probably found was a void of information. If you go back to the "little ...
by Mormorrisey
Wed Apr 14, 2021 6:51 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Did Natasha Helfer-Parker get Exed?
Replies: 82
Views: 3424

Re: Did Netasha Helfer-Parker get Exed?

Yeah, this one is pretty nuts, and unlike most of the high profile excommunications (Bill Reel's, John Dehlin's, etc) this one seems just so INCOMPETENT. Like, are you seriously holding a membership council without really working with the person to "repent?" Or over such nebulous "doctrine" as mastu...
by Mormorrisey
Tue Apr 13, 2021 8:57 am
Forum: Support
Topic: NOMference Scores - April 2021
Replies: 7
Views: 339

Re: NOMference Scores - April 2021

I'm still pissed that Nelson ruined what would have been our first ever positive session score Sunday morning. What a Debbie Downer!
by Mormorrisey
Tue Apr 13, 2021 8:53 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Mormonism my way ?
Replies: 12
Views: 616

Re: Mormonism my way ?

I like Lindsay Hansen Park's description of being an "independent Mormon." That's how I look at it, and that's pretty clear what I am. And generally, regular "conformed" Mormons give such creatures a wide berth, as they give me. You don't have to be a giant d$#*head to be one, either. Just gently di...
by Mormorrisey
Tue Apr 13, 2021 8:35 am
Forum: Support
Topic: The true order of tithing
Replies: 21
Views: 953

Re: The true order of tithing

Rock Waterman has a good post on his blog about the history of tithing and what it actually means. You can read it at http://puremormonism.blogspot.com/2012/12/are-we-paying-too-much-tithing.html It should be no surprise that historical meaning doesn't jive with church culture today. No longer a hu...
by Mormorrisey
Tue Apr 13, 2021 8:19 am
Forum: Support
Topic: A New BYUtv Show will have LGBTQ+ Characters
Replies: 5
Views: 497

Re: A New BYUtv Show will have LGBTQ+ Characters

So, interesting story on this story. I asked my friend if he was a huge fan of NOW magazine, and he said no. So I asked him how he found out about this story, and he said he saw it on Bill Reel's Facebook feed. Now I'm interested in how Bill Reel heard about it way down in St. George! I'm not sure i...
by Mormorrisey
Sun Apr 11, 2021 6:55 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: A New BYUtv Show will have LGBTQ+ Characters
Replies: 5
Views: 497

A New BYUtv Show will have LGBTQ+ Characters

Although I live in Eastern Canada, in the general vicinity of the Greater Toronto Area (GTA), I'm not a huge reader of NOW magazine. They occasionally have some interesting articles, and I was directed to this one by a friend: https://nowtoronto.com/movies/byutv-to-include-lgbtq-characters-following...
by Mormorrisey
Mon Apr 05, 2021 10:52 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Forced Turning Point
Replies: 145
Views: 7602

Re: Forced Turning Point

Good luck Bishop graey! You have some good boundaries here, and hopefully they will be respected. I'm sure you'll be a great service-oriented bishop. Raising my right hand to you, and my middle finger to those who put you in this position. If you have a question/concern you can't post about, feel fr...
by Mormorrisey
Mon Apr 05, 2021 7:47 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: What has changed since 1850.
Replies: 25
Views: 1499

Re: What has changed since 1850.

I'm up the vols. 11-12 (1867) in the Journal of Discourses, and wow, almost every talk either is about the Word of Wisdom or refers to it. :o Brigham tells his audience if the money spent on tobacco in the territory were spent on schools it would pay for all the schools in the territory. the sister...
by Mormorrisey
Mon Apr 05, 2021 7:43 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Doubters are lazy learners!!!!!
Replies: 47
Views: 2444

Re: Doubters are lazy learners!!!!!

This stuff makes my blood boil because I know DW believes it and wants my kid to believe it too... and I know I'm not alone. I can't imagine any version of reality in which you could be labeled a lazy learner, jfro. If you have been lazy in your studies that makes pretty much every believer I know ...
by Mormorrisey
Mon Apr 05, 2021 5:56 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Doubters are lazy learners!!!!!
Replies: 47
Views: 2444

Re: Doubters are lazy learners!!!!!

It's been pretty quiet in the Mormorrisey home, and the only "discussion" that was had over conference was a bit of a testy exchange between one of my kids and the wife about Anderson's abortion talk, which I stayed out of. But on NOMference we all agreed that Nelson's talk was egregiously horrible....
by Mormorrisey
Sun Apr 04, 2021 2:48 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: NOMference Sunday afternoon SP 2021
Replies: 152
Views: 4926

Re: NOMference Sunday afternoon SP 2021

Thank God its over. All praise Pres. Mopag for organizing our Doubters Club!
by Mormorrisey
Sun Apr 04, 2021 2:43 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: NOMference Sunday afternoon SP 2021
Replies: 152
Views: 4926

Re: NOMference Sunday afternoon SP 2021

nibbler wrote:
Sun Apr 04, 2021 2:41 pm
This session in a nutshell.

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Best meme of NOMfetence!