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by Ho Lee Turtle
Wed Oct 02, 2019 8:26 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: A one-liner that captures your disaffection
Replies: 87
Views: 3093

Re: A one-liner that captures your disaffection

And it came to pass, I discovered the truth wasn’t written upon golden plates.
by Ho Lee Turtle
Sat Sep 07, 2019 8:01 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Would the church ever change the name of BYU...?
Replies: 10
Views: 417

Re: Would the church ever change the name of BYU...?

By calling it BYU, the “Y”, or even Brigham Young University, we are giving Satan another victory. We need to return to the name originally given by the Lord, to the prophet, and refer to it as, Even the Brigham Young Academy. This pleases the founder. On an interesting side note, Young broke the sc...
by Ho Lee Turtle
Sat Sep 07, 2019 11:46 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Four-year seminary graduation required for foreign missions
Replies: 14
Views: 519

Re: Four-year seminary graduation required for foreign missions

I was told that there are some foreign countries that will only allow missionaries to preach publicly that have completed a seminary training program before they can be religious ministers in their country. Don’t know if that’s true or not, but does make some sense. Little do they realize that LDS s...
by Ho Lee Turtle
Fri Aug 23, 2019 8:59 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: "We don't say that person is gay..." - I'm furious about labeling
Replies: 36
Views: 1349

Re: "We don't say that person is gay..." - I'm furious about labeling

Just to help Hathaway and Oaks out here, here are a few other labels that we probably shouldn’t use. 1. We don’t say someone is a “full tithe payer”, we say that person who is financing the ETCOJCOLDS 2. We don’t say someone is a “partial tithe payer”, we say that person still has to compromise thei...
by Ho Lee Turtle
Wed Aug 14, 2019 9:09 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Green tea is officially bad for you, against WoW
Replies: 30
Views: 1234

Re: Green tea is officially bad for you, against WoW

I sure wish they would have clarified which mild barley drinks are good for us; I wouldn’t want any youth thinking that a mild barley drink (aka 3.2 beer) is actually listed as being approved there in verse 17. Guess it’s best to just keep the youth drinking all those Red Bull’s, Rockstars, and Mons...
by Ho Lee Turtle
Sun Aug 11, 2019 9:33 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Alternative Gospel Topic Essays
Replies: 11
Views: 511

Re: Alternative Gospel Topic Essays

How about a essay on the garment? It could answer such controversial mysteries as; 1. How it came to exist and it’s true purpose in ETCOJCOLDS religion 2. What Joseph meant when he said it was exactly as God revealed after the sewing sisters made several attempts to get it right and then he declared...
by Ho Lee Turtle
Tue Jul 23, 2019 10:00 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Secret combinations
Replies: 22
Views: 951

Re: Secret combinations

I think we should have a small key chain made in the shape of a kinder hook plate with an impression of a tapir on one side and the words “new order Mormon” in the Deseret alphabet on the reverse side. People could use it for their keys, as a zipper pull, hang it from the rear view mirror, or as a d...
by Ho Lee Turtle
Fri Jul 19, 2019 6:40 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Gospel Topics Essay on Super Bowl XLII
Replies: 8
Views: 394

Re: Gospel Topics Essay on Super Bowl XLII

Ah this new “defining doctrine” needs some apocryphal stories now to support it. My great grandfather attended the game and while he was passing by the locker room one of the players on the winning team gave him their game jersey. After that, any time a family member touched the jersey before playin...
by Ho Lee Turtle
Tue Jul 09, 2019 9:59 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: How do atheists find their car keys?
Replies: 16
Views: 829

Re: How do atheists find their car keys?

Well, prayer or no prayer involved, the truth is that I always find my keys in the last spot I look in...and that’s a fact.
by Ho Lee Turtle
Mon Mar 25, 2019 8:56 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Brainstorm - Psychological Damage
Replies: 24
Views: 1040

Re: Brainstorm - Psychological Damage

Gaslighting
Identity change from Mormon to ETCOJCOLDS
Scouting
Unscientific health code
Doctrinal drift
Academic dishonesty
Historical fact manipulation
Being voluntold to serve in callings
by Ho Lee Turtle
Thu Mar 14, 2019 11:12 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Your Random LDS Questions
Replies: 40
Views: 1698

Re: Your Random LDS Questions

Here is random question. If Jesus could come down and atone for all persons, past present and future with one act, why can’t he (or someone already on earth like RMN) just be baptized, for and in behalf of, all those who are dead, and be done with it in one shot? Seems like it could work for the oth...
by Ho Lee Turtle
Sun Mar 10, 2019 8:02 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Joel Osteen and others
Replies: 19
Views: 899

Re: Joel Osteen and others

I’ve listened to Joel several times on the radio. I enjoy many of his sermons, but I have a hard time watching him on the TV as it looks very fake and disingenuous. Also, I don’t like that he lives a rock star life. However, he does spread a positive outlook on life and hope for something better, be...
by Ho Lee Turtle
Sat Mar 09, 2019 10:13 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Pope and RMN to meet today
Replies: 57
Views: 2252

Re: Pope and RMN to meet today

I wonder if he asked about borrowing the popemobile for the Pioneer Day parade this year...
by Ho Lee Turtle
Mon Dec 31, 2018 8:57 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Areas where science has forced the church to change their story/approach/whatever?
Replies: 42
Views: 2035

Re: Areas where science has forced the church to change their story/approach/whatever?

Does Joesph Fielding Smith’s quote that man would never go to the moon count? “We will never get a man into space. This earth is man's sphere and it was never intended that he should get away from it. The moon is a superior planet to the earth and it was never intended that man should go there. You ...
by Ho Lee Turtle
Wed Nov 14, 2018 10:58 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Resignation Submitted!
Replies: 22
Views: 1097

Re: Resignation Submitted!

I am happy for you, congrats. Please come back and visit us when you can, I enjoy the thoughts expressed in your posts. They have been very helpful to me in my own journey. Your various avatar pictures always make me smile. Much thanks to you and all the best on your future adventures. Perhaps our p...
by Ho Lee Turtle
Mon Oct 29, 2018 11:17 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: We pray upstairs
Replies: 9
Views: 725

Re: We pray upstairs

It's funny how long ago Mormons assume that was. I have to wonder, how different were mild barley drinks - really? How different was the whiskey ol' Brigham was producing than a modern whiskey? I wish I could find some of the whiskey that brother Brigham distilled to compare it to our modern versio...
by Ho Lee Turtle
Thu Oct 11, 2018 9:56 pm
Forum: The Coffee Shop
Topic: What if everyone started changing their name?
Replies: 3
Views: 422

What if everyone started changing their name?

NASCAR Announces Name Change CHARLOTTE, NC – America’s racing fans learned Thursday that NASCAR will be “no more” from NASCAR president Bill France Jr., when he announced that going forward the organization would only be using its official name, even the National Association of Stock Car Auto Racing...
by Ho Lee Turtle
Wed Sep 19, 2018 8:09 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: General Conference Predictions
Replies: 123
Views: 7912

Re: General Conference Predictions

I’ve heard the 2 hour church rumor quite a bit, even that it has been in trial version in a couple places outside the USA. Part of the rumor is that in some countries people are able to take a break from their jobs to attend church for up to 2 hours and this will help them be able to attend more oft...
by Ho Lee Turtle
Sat Sep 01, 2018 11:18 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Unwritten Articles of Faith
Replies: 45
Views: 2800

Re: Unwritten Articles of Faith

Thanks for the posts in this thread. Much enjoyed, and so I offer this one.

We believe that a magical incantation said over any refreshments at a gathering of saints can actually cause the cookies and punch to “nourish and strengthen our bodies”.
by Ho Lee Turtle
Sun Jul 22, 2018 9:02 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Farewell, most probably
Replies: 24
Views: 1568

Re: Farewell, most probably

Thank you for all that you have shared here at NOM. All the best to you and your future path in life, wherever it may take you next.