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by Gatorbait
Fri Jan 20, 2023 3:23 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Tithing settlement....or whatever they call it now.
Replies: 21
Views: 3280

Re: Tithing settlement....or whatever they call it now.

Hermey, you and your wife are geniuses. Wow- what a great response. I'm going to use you wise advise with many thanks to you.
by Gatorbait
Wed Jan 11, 2023 12:50 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Tithing settlement....or whatever they call it now.
Replies: 21
Views: 3280

Tithing settlement....or whatever they call it now.

I know, I know, this dead horse has been beaten to death already, but I've still got the bruised soul and I can't seem to get past people rubbing it in that I don't pay tithing- and, according to them, I will most likely burn in hell. When I tell them that we try to be generous with our goods and mo...
by Gatorbait
Wed Jan 11, 2023 12:35 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Article in the Tribune
Replies: 2
Views: 622

Re: Article in the Tribune

Wow, thanks for posting this, as I feel there was a lot of thought that went into this, and many points are addressed in a short article. I'll have to say that I agree with Tanner, and feel for him because maybe now members will double down on him and his family and prove his point. Instead of sayin...
by Gatorbait
Mon Jan 09, 2023 10:22 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Authority of the Apostleship
Replies: 5
Views: 902

Re: Authority of the Apostleship

Apostles- now that's an enigma is it not? We have no idea who the original twelve apostles were (sixth article of faith). Oops. The Bible is no help as they list different ones in different books. Paul- who was that chap and how'd he get to be an apostle? No one knows. Half of the New Testament are ...
by Gatorbait
Mon Jan 09, 2023 10:05 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Changes I have seen. Does anyone agree?
Replies: 17
Views: 2430

Re: Changes I have seen. Does anyone agree?

Interesting take. I think that the church has made progress, but they still hold on to lies about quite a few things. And a lot of Mormons are dishonest. Used to see a lot of excommunications back in the 70's and early 80's and we don't see much of that any more. The thing that I've noticed is how t...
by Gatorbait
Wed Sep 14, 2022 10:13 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Joseph Smith and the curse of the flaming sword
Replies: 18
Views: 2627

Re: Joseph Smith and the curse of the flaming sword

It was actually a "drawn sword" in his original quotes (I believe someone added "flaming" years later). However, there was an angel with a flaming sword who supposedly guarded the tree of life ;) Angels and swords- that's a hoot- but it is easy to tell the difference between the two angels. 1. Tree ...
by Gatorbait
Wed Sep 14, 2022 10:04 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Describing the "Mormon" God.
Replies: 13
Views: 1709

Re: Describing the "Mormon" God.

Interesting thoughts, esp. alas's comments. The whole atonement thing is silly to me and always has been, growing up in a part-member home as I was, I learned to be question things early and never got past this one. I see no evidence of this being taught in the early Mormon church, but may be wrong,...
by Gatorbait
Wed Sep 14, 2022 9:48 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Oaks vows BYU will not be part of "the World"
Replies: 24
Views: 2830

Re: Oaks vows BYU will not be part of "the World"

Agree with the previous posts. This is a disappointment to see Oaks doing this sort of thing. Church needs to set up a damage control for this sort of thing. This sets the church back big time. His Pres. Kimball reference is dated- 1975 for crying out loud- and shows only indifference to those outli...
by Gatorbait
Mon Mar 14, 2022 10:40 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: The BIGGEST problem with Mormon God
Replies: 8
Views: 1841

Re: The BIGGEST problem with Mormon God

I like this- Joseph Smith's most awkward moment...."um...a...I hate to ask this God and God...but can we shake hands? Sorta, kinda need to know that you aren't the...you know...uh...the devil."
by Gatorbait
Mon Mar 14, 2022 10:32 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Updated list of Humble Braggage
Replies: 7
Views: 2291

Updated list of Humble Braggage

Seems like that through the years the “humble brag” has evolved, so maybe we need to update our list of humble braggage. I’ll start: 1. All my sons earned their Eagle Scout badge. Nowadays- who the hell cares-church gave scouts the heave ho- think of something else to brag about. Help fill out the l...
by Gatorbait
Tue Mar 01, 2022 9:26 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: God’s Intervention
Replies: 47
Views: 9900

Re: God’s Intervention

Perhaps there is no god as defined by the Christian faiths, there is something that binds our souls. Maybe, maybe not. Yet still and all, perhaps there is a spiritual realm that we don't understand. Something that connects one human person to another- not all this families can be together forever ta...
by Gatorbait
Thu Feb 24, 2022 10:54 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: omnipresent?
Replies: 11
Views: 2416

Re: omnipresent?

Probably all thought about this. The closest star being what- five light years away and all. Lots of space. Boils down to this and we can't have it both ways. Either God has always been God, omni-everything or he was a man and evolved into what he is now. Got to be one way of the other as I see it, ...
by Gatorbait
Thu Feb 24, 2022 10:45 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: An update from The Netherlands
Replies: 17
Views: 4811

Re: An update from The Netherlands

Thanks for checking in again. Sort of missed hearing about things going on over there in the old country across the pond, and from you. We don't hear a lot about the church growth or lack of it in Europe, apart from a few countries. England still seems to be going along but I did not know how grim i...
by Gatorbait
Thu Feb 24, 2022 10:29 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Zion=Jerusalem or Zion and Jerusalem
Replies: 3
Views: 1166

Re: Zion=Jerusalem or Zion and Jerusalem

Used to be that there was a lot of talk about "going back to Missouri". I knew of people who relocated there to get a start on it, but came back west in Idaho after a while when Christ decided it wasn't time to come on back yet. Not much talk about that any more. A few things: Adam, first baptized, ...
by Gatorbait
Wed Jan 26, 2022 12:29 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: In tune with Satan?
Replies: 13
Views: 3398

Re: In tune with Satan?

But let's not forget, the thing that offends God most and is a victory for Satan is using, Mormon or LDS rather than the Church of cheese and rice and rattle day snakes.
by Gatorbait
Wed Jan 19, 2022 4:42 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: In the rubble of collapsed apologetics
Replies: 23
Views: 5337

Re: In the rubble of collapsed apologetics

Did they fire Daniel Peterson? Is that old news? I don't check this very often.
by Gatorbait
Wed Jan 19, 2022 4:39 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Gendered God?
Replies: 5
Views: 1676

Re: Gendered God?

Very thoughtful and interesting post. Thank you. For some of us, I'm pretty sure that even when we were youngsters, the idea of one god knowing everyone's thoughts and deeds from the beginning of the universe until now was absurd. The old verbiage in the scriptures about God knowing the hairs on you...
by Gatorbait
Mon Jul 05, 2021 8:39 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: grandiose delusions?
Replies: 20
Views: 6617

Re: grandiose delusions?

There seems to have been from the beginning of Mormonism, a struggle between righteousness and self-righteousness. Certainly Joseph Smith got his leg caught in the self-righteous trap from time to time and had to deal with the consequences. Recently, my TBM son-in-law shared something with me that h...
by Gatorbait
Tue May 25, 2021 7:16 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Garments and Temple recommend interview
Replies: 36
Views: 13281

Re: Garments and Temple recommend interview

Underwear: Has nothing to do with religion any more than which socks you wear. Choose what suits you best. Booze: Pull a cork once in a while but be careful. Have to be careful not to do it in front of Mormons. They tattle. Coffee and tea: come the hell on....this is not bad for anyone. Temples and ...
by Gatorbait
Tue Mar 30, 2021 8:26 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Those OTHER Christians and Q
Replies: 6
Views: 2258

Re: Those OTHER Christians and Q

Thanks for sharing this article, which I read with interest. The spooky part were the comments below the article. Yowzer. There were comments that were saying that this article was not only incorrect, but that Desert News should not have printed it....or posted it...not sure what they do these days,...