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- Wed Jul 25, 2018 3:03 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Prosperity Gospel Condemned by Vatican
- Replies: 21
- Views: 11581
Re: Prosperity Gospel Condemned by Vatican
Wow, I enjoyed that article. My respect for Pope Francis continues to grow. Never thought I'd say that the Catholic Church is leading the charge to get Christ back into Christianity. The LDS church, on the other hand, has turned into a pitiful glory grab. I know a kind gentleman who was a mission pr...
- Mon Jul 09, 2018 1:44 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Appologetic quandry of the warrior gene
- Replies: 7
- Views: 4689
Re: Appologetic quandry of the warrior gene
Wow, a really thought provoking post. It brings to mind the theory heard many times as I was growing up, that some of the Alpha males or females, in the Church-the leaders- were "warriors" in the pre-mortal existence- Generals, not mere Captains in the war in heaven. Say, how did they fight that war...
- Mon Jul 02, 2018 2:50 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Apologists and why I don't care about them anymore
- Replies: 16
- Views: 8842
Apologists and why I don't care about them anymore
A couple of years ago, I locked horns with Dan Peterson, who is a well known scholar- at least to some- in the LDS Church. My discussion with him stemmed around my not giving any credence to what Jos. Smith's mom Lucy had to say in her book, about the episode regarding Jos. Smith's leg, when he was ...
- Fri Jun 01, 2018 11:31 am
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: The brethren's lack of faith
- Replies: 12
- Views: 7918
Re: The brethren's lack of faith
It is as we have said all along- "pay at that window". They masquerade with the "preparedness" guise, but what they really want is money. Give me your money....God will bless you. Pay to play. We don't care how much faith you have folks- you don't get to go into that building over there unless you p...
- Fri Jun 01, 2018 11:24 am
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: New Dan Peterson article mocking those who question the First Vision accounts... pure insanity.
- Replies: 13
- Views: 7371
Re: New Dan Peterson article mocking those who question the First Vision accounts... pure insanity.
Dan Peterson. He is the poster boy for: 1. Say that you believe in something and figure out how to con someone into believing it. "It is easier to fool someone than than convince them that they have been fooled". (Mark Twain) 2. Bully someone into either believing as he does or dismiss them without ...
- Tue May 29, 2018 3:04 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Bigfoot the Nephite
- Replies: 6
- Views: 2633
Re: Bigfoot the Nephite
No, I'm not going to wade into the murky Bigfoot waters with you Brent, because I think that if there was such a thing as Bigfoot, some redneck would hunt it down, shoot it, and strap it onto the hood of his pickup truck. But you did a damn fine job of writing this thread noble mon. Takin' my hat of...
- Tue May 29, 2018 1:27 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Using truthful facts to deceive
- Replies: 5
- Views: 3758
Re: Using truthful facts to deceive
Interesting word alright- paltering....hmm Words. Remember "Class Clown" by George Carlin? The seven words that you can't say on TV- it came out in the 70's when George Carlin was just getting his momentum of being one of the most original comics of his generation. I'm chuckling to myself as I write...
- Mon May 28, 2018 1:07 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: On being left out.
- Replies: 4
- Views: 3302
On being left out.
We've bounced around many times, like a beach ball at the beach, the idea that the true and only one and one and only church that is the very one that is true and the onlyest one that is true- that church- ought to be turning out kinder, more loving, accepting, gentle, swell and so on and so forth- ...
- Thu May 17, 2018 7:22 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Who is the Holy Ghost? It's me!
- Replies: 21
- Views: 49987
Re: Who is the Holy Ghost? It's me!
Good comments on an interesting difficult topic. I'm agreeing with a lot of stuff I'm reading here. The HG has been this enigma that I've never been satisfied with an answer on from anyone- ever. I put it right up with Mary the Mother of Jesus- who in the world gets pregnant when you are engaged- an...
- Thu May 10, 2018 2:14 pm
- Forum: The Coffee Shop
- Topic: Scouting is dead
- Replies: 11
- Views: 6527
Re: Scouting is dead
Never was much of a scouter and I hated like hell when some bozo- my brother included- made their kids get their Eagle badge before they could get their driver's license. Say what you want- the LDS Church is way more organized than the Scouts and will be just fine without them. No more begging for m...
- Thu May 10, 2018 2:12 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Who woulda thought?
- Replies: 8
- Views: 5191
Re: Who woulda thought?
Brings back memories of about six or so years ago....Kalikala, most of us have felt what you are feeling now. How'd I get sucked into this cuss? The thing is, truth is independent of itself, and we all know that. When an organization has to blast it's "I know the church is true" horn every month and...
- Sun May 06, 2018 9:10 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Difference between a NOM and an Exmo
- Replies: 14
- Views: 7002
Re: Difference between a NOM and an Exmo
Good points made and I've not much to add apart from the few examples that I've seen. 1. Not an ex-mo if you still worry if people in your ward ask you why you don't attend meetings anymore. Ex-mos just don't give a cuss and tell them so. 2. Ex-mos are okay with saying, "I'm not religious", and mean...
- Tue May 01, 2018 3:43 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: "Guess who's coming to dinner."
- Replies: 11
- Views: 6951
Re: "Guess who's coming to dinner."
Goofed up on the title and fixed it. Took me a while to figure out how...(sigh) Figured someone would catch it and correct it quicker than ol' Bednar can whip out a comb and a mirror and a can of hair spray. You did alright. What the hell, I'm an idiot. We all seek the truth, but the truth is indepe...
- Tue May 01, 2018 5:41 am
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: "Guess who's coming to dinner."
- Replies: 11
- Views: 6951
"Guess who's coming to dinner."
Although I'm an oldster now, I'm not so old that I've forgotten my younger years and a few things that shaped my thinking along the way. In 1967, when I was a mere lad of eleven, a movie came out with a cast of actors who were arguably the best at the trade at the time, Spencer Tracy, Katharine Hepb...
- Thu Apr 26, 2018 12:29 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: A philosophical look at God
- Replies: 10
- Views: 5761
Re: A philosophical look at God
First of all, it is interesting to me that when someone comes up idea or personage of God, they seem to immediately discredit anyone else's concept of God. Yesterday I saw, as many of you have probably seen as well, an image of a few grains of salt as seen through an electron microscope. Look it up,...
- Mon Mar 19, 2018 8:30 am
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: No more resignations??
- Replies: 21
- Views: 13788
Re: No more resignations??
For me, I don't much see the point of resigning. Nothing to be gained from it that I can see apart from the home teachers don't come a knockin' the last day of the month. I like Bill Burr's analogy/metaphor (why in the hell does metaphor end in ph?) which is the game of curling at the winter Olympic...
- Fri Mar 16, 2018 7:14 am
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: "If God wanted us to believe in him...he'd exist."
- Replies: 10
- Views: 7819
Re: "If God wanted us to believe in him...he'd exist."
The morning light is filling the valley where I live with the hope of a new day full of peacefulness. Sometimes I marvel at how lucky all of us are to be able to have the freedom of speaking or writing our thoughts on a place such as this. Some of your incites on this topic help to humble me. I see ...
- Wed Mar 14, 2018 11:18 am
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: "If God wanted us to believe in him...he'd exist."
- Replies: 10
- Views: 7819
"If God wanted us to believe in him...he'd exist."
Either the hair on the back of your neck is sticking up because you think I've crossed the line, or you are smiling, or both. Or neither. Maybe a wrinkled brow. This "If God wanted...." quote is one that's been around a while and I saw it again yesterday, smiled and thought to myself, yeah, that's a...
- Fri Jan 12, 2018 9:32 am
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: President Monson's Passing
- Replies: 36
- Views: 25002
Re: President Monson's Passing
We've sort of had some fun with this one....mostly at the expense of those of you who liked the guy. Sorry about that. No offence, but we are trying to be honest here on this sight. If nothing else, we say what we really think. Good or bad- it's at least the truth. The thing is, Monson was unique, a...
- Thu Jan 11, 2018 4:41 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Cringe Worthy Degrees of TBM Piousness
- Replies: 21
- Views: 13151
Re: Cringe Worthy Degrees of TBM Piousness
Can't leave this one alone- but for a different reason then some of the earlier posts. It's weird how humans want to gather into groups- not just Mormons- but in everything. Think about it- blacks. We have the guy doing the evening news, and he's polished and smart and we love him right? Wrrrong. He...