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- Wed Sep 16, 2020 12:12 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Next biblical scholarship overview - the global flood and mormonism
- Replies: 9
- Views: 1344
Re: Next biblical scholarship overview - the global flood and mormonism
I don't have anything insightful to contribute but I thought I'd leave this here for everyone's enjoyment: https://www.theonion.com/sumerians-look ... 1819571221
- Wed Mar 11, 2020 9:59 am
- Forum: Support
- Topic: Houston we have a problem !
- Replies: 38
- Views: 8972
Re: Houston we have a problem !
I can't tell you what you should do, that's something you are going to have to decide for yourself. I can share my experience, however. I had a moment of clarity in my disaffection process where I realized that if I pretended to go with the program so that people would love me, then they really woul...
- Mon Mar 09, 2020 9:13 am
- Forum: Support
- Topic: The church would collapse faster if...
- Replies: 25
- Views: 9253
Re: The church would collapse faster if...
I seem to recall that from a doctrinal point of view, the entire Presidency of the Seventy could ordain a new apostle who could restart the quorum. Once he filled all fifteen slots, the articles of incorporation could kick in from the Corporation of the President and reconstitute the organization. ...
- Thu Jan 23, 2020 10:42 am
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Dreams equal visions?
- Replies: 13
- Views: 2848
Re: Dreams equal visions?
The church's position on this today is pretty simple and straightforward:
If it increases faith in and obedience to the leaders, your dream is a revelation from God. If not, it is just a dream.
If it increases faith in and obedience to the leaders, your dream is a revelation from God. If not, it is just a dream.
- Wed Jan 22, 2020 2:36 pm
- Forum: Support
- Topic: Houston we have a problem !
- Replies: 38
- Views: 8972
Re: Houston we have a problem !
Fetchface, I am in the same position as you, still doing the 1 hour thing as a way to keep the peace and help wrestle kids so she isn't an abandoned widow in sacrament meeting. How did you handle the garment transition? For me that has been one of the last hurdles. I was quite furious with the chur...
- Wed Jan 22, 2020 9:43 am
- Forum: Support
- Topic: Houston we have a problem !
- Replies: 38
- Views: 8972
Re: Houston we have a problem !
I think that was a good choice. If you go with their program, they are just going to try to get you to do more and more. Next thing you know, they want you to be EQP or something like that. There was a moment in my FC when tensions were high with the wife and I just decided that my wife was either g...
- Tue Jan 21, 2020 11:41 am
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Church says it was an "error" that their Come Follow Me manual called the black skin curse a... black skin curse
- Replies: 26
- Views: 3452
Re: Church says it was an "error" that their Come Follow Me manual called the black skin curse a... black skin curse
Interesting, apparently they committed the big sin of saying the obviously racist part of the Book of Mormon out loud. You're supposed to pretend that part doesn't exist!
- Thu Jan 16, 2020 12:24 pm
- Forum: Support
- Topic: The core of my mormon trauma
- Replies: 19
- Views: 4561
Re: The core of my mormon trauma
How many times have I been told that people want me at church? I like to call them on it and tell them, no, they don't want me at church. They want someone who wears my skin but who in fact is a completely different person than I am. I almost want to show up one day and be myself, raise my hand and ...
- Thu Jan 09, 2020 3:57 pm
- Forum: Support
- Topic: Why did Joseph Smith return from Iowa to go to Carthage?
- Replies: 18
- Views: 3116
Re: Why did Joseph Smith return from Iowa to go to Carthage?
If you look at the history of cult leaders, you will notice that many of them are extremely reckless and take big risks and end up getting killed in the end. It seems to be that this is a common personality trait of cult leaders. Some even purposely organize a mass suicide with themselves included. ...
- Mon Dec 23, 2019 11:09 am
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Mormonism's Money is in the hotseat
- Replies: 22
- Views: 3076
Re: Mormonism's Money is in the hotseat
The president of the church has the power to dispose of any church property in any way he sees fit, so he can use it for any purpose he wants to, including gifting it to himself. At least, that's how the articles of incorporation read to me. Of course, gifting himself $100B would mean paying a lot o...
- Wed Dec 11, 2019 8:44 am
- Forum: Support
- Topic: Casual dress in church ????????
- Replies: 29
- Views: 4179
Re: Casual dress in church ????????
I specifically wear jeans to screw with the "unwritten order of things." Plus, I just feel good in my casual clothes. I have spent a lot of time finding jeans that fit me really well. I wear long-sleeved colored collared shirts (untucked). I've probably got the most expensive shoes in the whole chap...
- Thu Nov 21, 2019 9:33 am
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Mission rules are now just suggestions.
- Replies: 28
- Views: 4027
Re: Mission rules are now just suggestions.
Now, instead of needing to be 100% obedient to the rules to have the spirit, missionaries will need to be 100% obedient to the principles to have the spirit. I'm skeptical that this will represent any change at all. I think that obedience will still be highly emphasized on missions and that missiona...
- Tue Oct 29, 2019 11:59 am
- Forum: Support
- Topic: I'm going to Hell !
- Replies: 18
- Views: 2954
Re: I'm going to Hell !
Imagine yourself in the Celestial Kingdom. You show up at the party and up walks Russell M. Nelson and starts talking your ear off. You worm your way out of the conversation because, let's be honest, the guy has nothing interesting to say whatsoever, and next thing you know you are cornered by Dalli...
- Mon Oct 21, 2019 1:32 pm
- Forum: Support
- Topic: Visiting in laws on a Europe senior mission... such a frustrating trip.
- Replies: 8
- Views: 1197
Re: Visiting in laws on a Europe senior mission... such a frustrating trip.
That sounds like the worst vacation ever. Make the most of it, I guess. I went to NYC on a vacation with my wife and she wanted to go to the Manhattan temple while she was there, so I just strolled in Central Park for a couple of hours. I really enjoyed that quiet exploration time. If you are "unwor...
- Fri Oct 11, 2019 11:34 am
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: The Holy Ghost vs. active shooters
- Replies: 23
- Views: 3316
Re: The Holy Ghost vs. active shooters
Like most things, gun carrying in the general population is a mixed bag. If I'm ever in a situation where I'm sitting in church and somebody walks in armed to the teeth and starts shooting the place up, I'd love it if there were an army of off-duty cops sitting there with guns ready to fight back. A...
- Thu Oct 10, 2019 4:19 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Elder Oaks Defines "Gender" for Us - In His Usual Bigoted Way
- Replies: 91
- Views: 12475
Re: Elder Oaks Defines "Gender" for Us - In His Usual Bigoted Way
described in the article . I do have to say, though, that the article was terrible. It was written from a tone of Christian fear-mongering about transgender people, which I hate with a passion. The author can't even refer to the kids as transgender, it's "children who say they are transgender." It ...
- Thu Oct 10, 2019 4:13 pm
- Forum: Support
- Topic: New TR question
- Replies: 47
- Views: 5958
Re: New TR question
You kiddin'? We're talking about a God who sent an angel to threaten to kill Joseph Smith if he didn't marry dozens of women. The Mormon God is the Old Testament Jehovah, not the nice guy Jesus.
- Thu Oct 10, 2019 4:01 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Elder Oaks Defines "Gender" for Us - In His Usual Bigoted Way
- Replies: 91
- Views: 12475
Re: Elder Oaks Defines "Gender" for Us - In His Usual Bigoted Way
I agree with what those above have written but that wasn't the way you described your daughter's experience in California. It was definitely ambiguous. It wasn't addressing the problem as it was described in the article . I read very well what you wrote. That's why I asked you for clarification. We...
- Thu Oct 10, 2019 1:21 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Elder Oaks Defines "Gender" for Us - In His Usual Bigoted Way
- Replies: 91
- Views: 12475
Re: Elder Oaks Defines "Gender" for Us - In His Usual Bigoted Way
Again, open cubicles are inadequate in many situations, and doors and walls that go from ceiling to floor solve the issues. Yes, it was a common area for hazing/bullying of kids when I was young. I'm sure that hasn't changed. People (of all ages and gender identities) deserve a place that is nomina...
- Thu Oct 10, 2019 12:36 pm
- Forum: Support
- Topic: New TR question
- Replies: 47
- Views: 5958