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by Palerider
Sun Mar 18, 2018 3:18 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Forcing Spiritual Experiences
Replies: 12
Views: 6094

Re: Forcing Spiritual Experiences

You've hit on one of my pet peeves. While serving in the Bishopric we were expected to "set things up so that the kids could have a spiritual experience." This came mostly through the Stake when we would do stake youth activities or when we did the trek. You should have seen the looks I got from ...
by Palerider
Sun Mar 18, 2018 1:33 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Paranoid narcissists
Replies: 5
Views: 4178

Re: Paranoid narcissists

That was part of his charisma though - he was good at making his followers think they were part of something dramatic, something big, something epic. And doesn't this sound much more like someone we all know from the BoM? Alma 30:31 "31 And he did rise up in great swelling words before Alma, and ...
by Palerider
Fri Mar 16, 2018 11:42 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Paranoid narcissists
Replies: 5
Views: 4178

Paranoid narcissists

Been reading lately about how some narcissists are paranoid as well. Apparently not that uncommon because they have to constantly live in fear of being found out in their lies and are always shifting blame to others while considering themselves to be above the law. Anyway, I had occasion recently to ...
by Palerider
Fri Mar 16, 2018 3:27 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Plunder
Replies: 14
Views: 7685

Re: Plunder

https://broadcast.lds.org/crowdsource/mobile/images/1137493/dc1e3c2a9d0c458e99ae604a2c7c6105/460x344.jpg Captain Moroni signals it is time for his booty call This picture looks like the artist used the Provo 5th Ward youth road show as models. The only thing this Priests quorum is allowed to ...
by Palerider
Thu Mar 15, 2018 8:09 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Plunder
Replies: 14
Views: 7685

Re: Plunder

How many times does it show up in The Late War? Rubin, my dad has that picture framed in his home office. I have no idea why. As far as physiques go, he looks like a bumbling creampuff. I've read several verbal descriptions of him stating that he had developed a pot belly by this point in his life ...
by Palerider
Wed Mar 14, 2018 8:06 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Plunder
Replies: 14
Views: 7685

Re: Plunder

Well, at least he didn’t use the term "booty". Imagine the teachers and priests snickering in class over that one. 8-)
by Palerider
Wed Mar 14, 2018 11:33 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Scientists have established a link between brain damage and religious fundamentalism
Replies: 24
Views: 17585

Re: Scientists have established a link between brain damage and religious fundamentalism

I can't help but wonder if there here is also the possibility that some people have a genetic/cerebrophysiological (I think I just invented that word) propensity for religiosity. I guess that's what scrupulosity is. If there is a genetic component, it seems likely that people who are attracted to ...
by Palerider
Tue Mar 13, 2018 6:09 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Scientists have established a link between brain damage and religious fundamentalism
Replies: 24
Views: 17585

Re: Scientists have established a link between brain damage and religious fundamentalism

This report of the research smells like bullshit (in the technical sense of communicating without reference to the truth), so I'm going to look into the research itself. Here are some indications that something is wrong. Fundamentalist groups generally oppose anything that questions or challenges ...
by Palerider
Sun Mar 11, 2018 10:10 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Mysteries in the Book of Mormon?
Replies: 32
Views: 29525

Re: Mysteries in the Book of Mormon?

Haha thanks MoPag & Rob4Hope! The thing that cinched it for me is the pictures the church hangs in the North Visitors Center in Temple Square. Those pics have Joseph looking at the plates in what appears to be a translation process. It is a pure fabrication. The church still hangs it, but if asked ...
by Palerider
Sun Mar 11, 2018 8:19 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Big changes coming in April GC!
Replies: 51
Views: 31639

Re: Big changes coming in April GC!

It would really be interesting to see leadership go on an excommunication binge. I'm probably wrong about this but Mr. Nelson strikes me as a bit of an arrogant fellow who is thinking (from his point of view) that he's tired of all the crap about "nuanced" belief and he's going to step back 50 years ...
by Palerider
Sun Mar 11, 2018 8:04 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Details demanded
Replies: 16
Views: 13112

Re: Details demanded

1smartdodog wrote: Sun Mar 11, 2018 5:48 pm I can’t think of any reason other than they are perverts. Would Jesus ask those questions!
He would already know the answers and would just be concentrating on the "go thy way and sin no more" aspect. No need to grind someone's face in it.
by Palerider
Sun Mar 11, 2018 7:56 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Mysteries in the Book of Mormon?
Replies: 32
Views: 29525

Re: Mysteries in the Book of Mormon?

Was doing a little study on this today and found that anciently there was a city in Cappadocia called Gazelum. Was thinking since we know Joseph hijacked a couple of names from old maps i.e. Comoros and Moroni, that possibly he had picked up Gazelum from an old Biblical map. The city was near the ...
by Palerider
Sat Mar 10, 2018 12:37 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Another Book
Replies: 8
Views: 6791

Re: Another Book

Sorry, this is probably a threadjack. And here I thought you were going to write about Mr. and Mrs. Renlund's new book: The Melchizedek Priesthood: Understanding the Doctrine, Living the Principles. Apparently it has a little section explaining why women really do have the priesthood even though ...
by Palerider
Tue Mar 06, 2018 8:26 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Return missionary program
Replies: 6
Views: 3010

Re: Return missionary program

I downloaded the PDF and decided to check out lesson 2, which is all about your purpose. Holy moly! I had forgotten how light on substance church lessons are. The lesson seems to have a few purposes. 1. Get RMs to think about finding their purpose. This is good: missions hand you a purpose and ...
by Palerider
Sun Mar 04, 2018 5:55 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Mysteries in the Book of Mormon?
Replies: 32
Views: 29525

Re: Mysteries in the Book of Mormon?

I always figured Nephi or Nephite was always a play on Nephilim from Genesis 6:4. He might have gotten it from John Walker's pronunciation guide (as well as possibly many others): http://blog.mrm.org/2014/07/john-walkers-key-opens-book-of-mormon-names/ That would explain the curious Latin ...
by Palerider
Sun Mar 04, 2018 2:14 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Critique of worthiness interviews
Replies: 9
Views: 6950

Re: Critique of worthiness interviews

Great article! Recently I’ve been thinking a lot about worthiness interviews and their origin. Mithryn made a great blog post about this with a timeline (and links to sources if you're so inclined): https://exploringmormonism.com/bishops-interview-timeline/ I find it most interesting that 1) they s ...
by Palerider
Sun Mar 04, 2018 11:45 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Mysteries in the Book of Mormon?
Replies: 32
Views: 29525

Re: Mysteries in the Book of Mormon?

Having read the blog article, I think Volluz is making this into more than what it really is. I think, as Joseph is want to do, he has just taken the word "gaze" and played with it to make it seem exotic. Scrying or stone gazing being his forte, it seems like a small leap. The coincidental link with ...
by Palerider
Sat Mar 03, 2018 11:04 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Mormons don't believe in Jesus
Replies: 55
Views: 70829

Re: Mormons don't believe in Jesus

Even though Jeffery is more compassionate than some, he still gets it wrong in some important ways. Being "changed" into a new person doesn't begin AFTER "repentance is complete". It begins the moment we begin to place our faith in Christ and ask for forgiveness. We begin to enter the healing ...
by Palerider
Sat Mar 03, 2018 9:59 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Mysteries in the Book of Mormon?
Replies: 32
Views: 29525

Re: Mysteries in the Book of Mormon?

Welcome! Your story sounds very familiar. ;) I'm trying to remember a BofM phrase that comes almost verbatim from A View to the Hebrews . Anyway, when I mentioned this phrasing to an apologist on another website, he informed me that the phrase was even closer to Joseph than even I had thought and ...
by Palerider
Fri Mar 02, 2018 5:37 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Morality?
Replies: 17
Views: 13555

Re: Morality?

Before making comment, can you give me a specific reference from the BoM?