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- Thu Feb 23, 2023 10:19 am
- Forum: Support
- Topic: Church paying $5 Million SEC fine
- Replies: 64
- Views: 5727
Re: Church paying $5 Million SEC fine
Saw John Dehlin and guest (lawyer) on this issue tonight. Very informative and insightful. The fine is nothing but according to the findings the church leadership had to admit guilt to achieve a settlement. They knowingly lied and broke the law intentionally as stated in the documents. All members ...
- Wed Feb 22, 2023 11:02 pm
- Forum: Support
- Topic: Church paying $5 Million SEC fine
- Replies: 64
- Views: 5727
Re: Church paying $5 Million SEC fine
Saw John Dehlin and guest (lawyer) on this issue tonight. Very informative and insightful. The fine is nothing but according to the findings the church leadership had to admit guilt to achieve a settlement. They knowingly lied and broke the law intentionally as stated in the documents. All members s...
- Fri Feb 17, 2023 9:40 am
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Why does Scripture become irrelavant?
- Replies: 10
- Views: 701
Re: Why does Scripture become irrelavant?
One of the early church influencers, Marcion, reached the erroneous conclusion that God was done with the Jews and that the Old Testament writings should not be included as a part of the Christian Canon. The Marcionites are awesome. They believed that the Old Testament Yahweh was actually an evil, ...
- Thu Feb 16, 2023 10:30 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Why does Scripture become irrelavant?
- Replies: 10
- Views: 701
Re: Why does Scripture become irrelavant?
I know, I know.... I'm the out-lier here but I love the Biblical scriptures. I've read the Old Testament at least 4 times and continue to study it frequently. The Old Testament aside from being a witness to Israel of the covenant from Jehovah, gives great meaning and understanding to the New Testame...
- Mon Feb 13, 2023 10:09 pm
- Forum: Support
- Topic: Does living together make sense?
- Replies: 11
- Views: 829
Re: Does living together make sense?
There is research to support both scenarios, but frankly the research I've seen that supports NOT living together first is a bit skewed because the population it examined was religious folks. Caveat: this is not my field just what I remember based on some research I've done. The research we studied...
- Mon Feb 06, 2023 6:17 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: The Great Apostasy didn’t really happen according to new Maxwell Institute book.
- Replies: 25
- Views: 2383
- Sat Feb 04, 2023 10:30 am
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: The Great Apostasy didn’t really happen according to new Maxwell Institute book.
- Replies: 25
- Views: 2383
Re: The Great Apostasy didn’t really happen according to new Maxwell Institute book.
And finally: 2123: Official church AI algorithms disavow any uncomfortable doctrine of the past, and declare that all COJCOLDS biological units are ordered to offer up 50% of their cryptocurrency at any of the 5,000 casino structures that were once erroneously misidentified as temples. Obedience wi...
- Fri Feb 03, 2023 9:35 am
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: The Great Apostasy didn’t really happen according to new Maxwell Institute book.
- Replies: 25
- Views: 2383
Re: The Great Apostasy didn’t really happen according to new Maxwell Institute book.
Well yeah, but: Related to the original topic of this post... If the "Great Apostasy" never happened, what is there to 'restore'? The thing that's left to restore is the members' poor understanding of what has been taught specifically by leadership for the past hundred years. So even though it's be...
- Mon Jan 30, 2023 11:11 am
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Can there be an Alma?
- Replies: 9
- Views: 897
Re: Can there be an Alma?
I always thought the Corianton story was awfully accommodating. Just try going out and shagging a "bad girl" while on your mission now and see if you get a tough reprimand and then get sent back into the mission field..... I asked my mission president about Corianton and he just said, "Well, Alma wa...
- Mon Jan 30, 2023 10:51 am
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Sacrament Meetings & My Ramblings
- Replies: 7
- Views: 691
Re: Sacrament Meetings & My Ramblings
I once read an article by Daniel Peterson the apologist. He was going on about how unfair all the criticism of the church was and then he said, "WE didn't start this fight but we're going to finish it and protect ourselves", something to that effect. I thought what a disingenuous dope. You send out ...
- Fri Jan 27, 2023 10:37 am
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: The Great Apostasy didn’t really happen according to new Maxwell Institute book.
- Replies: 25
- Views: 2383
Re: The Great Apostasy didn’t really happen according to new Maxwell Institute book.
“We're witnesses to a process of restoration,” said the prophet. “If you think the Church has been fully restored, you're just seeing the beginning. There is much more to come. … Wait till next year. And then the next year. Eat your vitamin pills. Get your rest. It's going to be exciting.” The Ongo...
- Tue Jan 24, 2023 4:04 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: The Great Apostasy didn’t really happen according to new Maxwell Institute book.
- Replies: 25
- Views: 2383
Re: The Great Apostasy didn’t really happen according to new Maxwell Institute book.
Sooooo.... what about the two main churches mentioned in the BoM? One was the church of the Devil and the other the restored church. How does that work????
- Thu Jan 19, 2023 2:09 pm
- Forum: Support
- Topic: Thoughts on priesthood blessings and feeling the spirit meaning the church is true
- Replies: 23
- Views: 1800
Re: Thoughts on priesthood blessings and feeling the spirit meaning the church is true
If we think in terms of Heavenly Father and the Savior watching over their children here on earth, we should ask ourselves, how many would be blessed or cared for if God said, "Oh I can't give you a blessing because you're not in the right church. I only give blessings to my children through properl...
- Wed Jan 11, 2023 11:23 am
- Forum: Support
- Topic: Woman riles up Sarasota Springs Priesthood
- Replies: 6
- Views: 1021
Re: Woman riles up Sarasota Springs Priesthood
If I'm not mistaken the actual article says "Boys will be boys". Am I wrong there?
- Fri Jan 06, 2023 10:01 am
- Forum: Support
- Topic: Murdered Utah family
- Replies: 4
- Views: 555
Murdered Utah family
I'd be very interested to know if anyone here has or will have insights as to the killing of this LDS family by their father. What I have read so far indicates that the wife/mother had just recently filed for divorce. I know you Utah people are more tuned into the LDS grapevine. Any chance this whol...
- Sat Dec 31, 2022 9:24 am
- Forum: Support
- Topic: Lusting for Mary
- Replies: 4
- Views: 562
Lusting for Mary
I'm quite certain the church has saved millions of young men from lusting over Mary. Thank heaven we don't have to deal with porn shoulders in the church publications. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/mormon-church-condemned-for-photoshopping-painting-of-virgin-mary-to-cover-her-bust-and-shoulders/...
- Fri Dec 30, 2022 10:39 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Hypocrisy
- Replies: 7
- Views: 872
Re: Hypocrisy
Even though the above article comes down on the "stay faithful" side of the argument, it also makes clear there is no place for condemnation or judging of the individual who takes a different path than that sought for by the church. If anything those who "judge" should be saying, "I don't blame you....
- Fri Dec 30, 2022 10:17 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Hypocrisy
- Replies: 7
- Views: 872
Re: Hypocrisy
You have my deepest sympathies. I'm going through something similar with my elderly TBM in-laws that are living with us right now. :roll: You might consider sending this article from "LDS Living" to your relatives. It was written by Patrick Mason, who according to John Dehlin, has admitted that he t...
- Sat Dec 24, 2022 9:17 am
- Forum: Support
- Topic: Merry Christmas to all my Nomies
- Replies: 9
- Views: 832
Re: Merry Christmas to all my Nomies
Thank you and merry Christmas to you as well.
- Sat Dec 10, 2022 3:38 pm
- Forum: Support
- Topic: Institutional narcissism and child abuse
- Replies: 6
- Views: 632
Institutional narcissism and child abuse
See any similarities? https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/catholic-collective-narcissism-linked-to-acceptance-of-myths-about-child-sexual-abuse/ar-AA158lOE?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=9536df1f66b9407d90d980ca79016b47 “Even though sexual relations between priests and minors have taken place inside th...