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by Jeffret
Sun Nov 12, 2023 10:19 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Thom Harrison and "Visions of Glory"
Replies: 64
Views: 357995

Re: Thom Harrison and "Visions of Glory"

Lesbians just ignored in a lot of this. Yeah, that's interesting. No preisthood, not such a big deal. It's an aspect of patriarchy, which is certainly abundant in Mormonism. It's hard to say exactly why, but there are certainly some forces driving it. There have never been as much effort in ...
by Jeffret
Sat Nov 11, 2023 8:40 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Thom Harrison and "Visions of Glory"
Replies: 64
Views: 357995

Re: Thom Harrison and "Visions of Glory"

I'm wondering if there is a connection to Thom Harrison here. We have seen that Harrison has some sort of influence with the church in recommending therapists, and we have seen that his preferred therapists appear to be oriented around the Visions of Glory movement. Also, Owen seemed to be doing a ...
by Jeffret
Tue Nov 07, 2023 12:50 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: One more thread severed: ministering
Replies: 14
Views: 13650

Re: One more thread severed: ministering

As a EQP Secretary it was always annoying to track down numbers for reporting. Once I realized everyone was either lying or not answering the phone, I just looked at the average for the year and maintained that for the reporting. It was much easier than spending numerous hours and reporting 14% and ...
by Jeffret
Tue Nov 07, 2023 9:03 am
Forum: Support
Topic: One more thread severed: ministering
Replies: 14
Views: 13650

Re: One more thread severed: ministering

I have zero faith or even belief that such beings exist, ... What about the hope that a beneficent universal superbeing exists? With an emphasis on the beneficent part, that idea really appeals to me. Also, the concept of an afterlife where you can see friends and loved ones again would be great ...
by Jeffret
Tue Nov 07, 2023 8:58 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Has Tim Ballard Been Excommunicated?
Replies: 30
Views: 35405

Re: Has Tim Ballard Been Excommunicated?

Clearly, there were also other Church leaders with at least some connection to Tim's schemes and the efforts to spread "the gospel". They had some awareness of it and some support, at least tacit. The Church supported Tim's work, up until it became a liability. Thanks to Glenn Beck we now also know ...
by Jeffret
Tue Nov 07, 2023 8:58 am
Forum: Support
Topic: One more thread severed: ministering
Replies: 14
Views: 13650

Re: One more thread severed: ministering

The last few years I was involved with the Church, I just declined to have anything to do with Home Teaching. I had already been putting off Home Teachers wanting to visit us, because we were really busy, which we were. I just stopped doing anything more with it. I was annoyed that they just assign ...
by Jeffret
Mon Nov 06, 2023 6:49 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Lavina Vs. Avraham
Replies: 4
Views: 3369

Re: Lavina Vs. Avraham

Totally understandable. Avraham has had friends in high places, which always makes a big difference, especially in an organization like the Church. He's been supporting the Church's end-times theology. Lavina committed a sin worse than murder -- questioning the patriarchy. And being a woman. What ...
by Jeffret
Fri Nov 03, 2023 9:04 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Elder Ballard gives tithing records to Tim Ballard
Replies: 14
Views: 12666

Re: Elder Ballard gives tithing records to Tim Ballard

Dehlin has a fresh video about it here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dVtkI5UBWJk

And an Salt Lake Tribute article about the Sean Reyes connection here: https://www.sltrib.com/news/2023/11/03/ ... es-denies/
by Jeffret
Fri Nov 03, 2023 10:09 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Has Tim Ballard Been Excommunicated?
Replies: 30
Views: 35405

Re: Has Tim Ballard Been Excommunicated?

Let's not forget MRB's history of fraud going all the way back to 1962: https://www.sec.gov/news/digest/1962/dig072462.pdf It goes back earlier than that. In the video that AllieOop posted previously, Lynn Packer meticulously details to Bill Reel and RFM Russell Ballard's long history of fraudulent ...
by Jeffret
Fri Nov 03, 2023 9:39 am
Forum: Support
Topic: 36 new missions created - why?
Replies: 16
Views: 9199

Re: 36 new missions created - why?

More opportunities to call mission presidents?
by Jeffret
Thu Nov 02, 2023 1:16 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Your tithing dollars at work!
Replies: 19
Views: 17701

Re: Your tithing dollars at work!

Voluntary organization is not government since there is no monopoly on violence. So is it the case that everyone gets to be equally violent, then? (Perhaps more seriously, or less) Is this proposal for a voluntary organization somehow related to libertarian principles? Or ... how does it relate to ...
by Jeffret
Thu Nov 02, 2023 12:38 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Your tithing dollars at work!
Replies: 19
Views: 17701

Re: Your tithing dollars at work!

To balance the haves with the have-nots I would explain that supporting the homeless provides greater security, the revenue returns dividends, having a third-party handle court or corrections responsibilities engenders peace at home, or publishing forums, reddit, news, or edutainment encourages ...
by Jeffret
Thu Nov 02, 2023 11:58 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Fight The New Drug
Replies: 145
Views: 313957

Re: Fight The New Drug

Joe doesn't keep it organized so it's hard to find all of them -- it's a running tally. Here's the latest case he shared: https://www.joemygod.com/2023/10/florida-prison-chaplain-arrested-in-child-sex-sting/ He keeps the tally on Twitter (which I'm not very fond of, especially after Musk took it ...
by Jeffret
Thu Nov 02, 2023 10:39 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Thom Harrison and "Visions of Glory"
Replies: 64
Views: 357995

Re: Thom Harrison and "Visions of Glory"

I finished the second episode and I continue to be dazed by how broad Thom Harrison's influence is across the entire spectrum of fringe Mormonism, including Rod Meldrum and the Heartland BoM people, and disturbed by how respected he and his followers are as therapists. One of the panelists ...
by Jeffret
Wed Nov 01, 2023 12:27 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: What's up with the "countenance" concept?
Replies: 25
Views: 54632

Re: What's up with the "countenance" concept?

There is something to be said regarding countenances. When a person sins their behavior changes, or rather their spirit that moves them was distracted elsewhere since the last time you observed them so they are not interacting with you on the same conscious level. This concept, or something very ...
by Jeffret
Wed Nov 01, 2023 12:21 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Thom Harrison and "Visions of Glory"
Replies: 64
Views: 357995

Re: Thom Harrison and "Visions of Glory"

One observation I would like to make, that was not commented on, is that many of Thom Harrison's visions seem to be deeply grounded in the teachings of Joseph Fielding Smith. Several of the excerpts they played were built upon JFS's theology and fleshed out by Harrison, often in very dark and ...
by Jeffret
Tue Oct 31, 2023 7:08 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: What's up with the "countenance" concept?
Replies: 25
Views: 54632

Re: What's up with the "countenance" concept?

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by Jeffret
Mon Oct 30, 2023 9:13 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Fight The New Drug
Replies: 145
Views: 313957

Re: Fight The New Drug

And what is amazing, is that some of the people who commit the worst sexual excesses, are closely associated with churches, i.e., Jimmy Swaggert, or Jim Bakker, or a number of Catholic priests, or Jerry Falwell and wife. Or the prophet Joseph, who appears to have been a man of strong sexual ...
by Jeffret
Mon Oct 30, 2023 6:25 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Fight The New Drug
Replies: 145
Views: 313957

Re: Fight The New Drug

Maybe I am missing something or maybe something is getting lost in translation. But these recent posts by Bonfire make no sense to me. They don't even seam like something written by a TBM. It comes across more like AI generated nonsense than a coherent point about anything. Please correct me if I ...