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by Jeffret
Wed May 23, 2018 12:22 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Church apologizes for Racism!
Replies: 166
Views: 8821

Re: Church apologizes for Racism!

MoPag wrote:
Wed May 23, 2018 12:10 pm
I'd like to share some things about "streetergate" and what I learned from the black TBMs in my life.
Excellent post, Mopag.
by Jeffret
Wed May 23, 2018 11:39 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Church apologizes for Racism!
Replies: 166
Views: 8821

Re: Church apologizes for Racism!

And can anyone explain clearly just how Streeter's work constitutes either satire or parody ? Other than the one little note at the bottom, his page was clearly intended to be mistaken for an official page of the Church. There are none of the satirical elements used by The Onion, Borowitz, or other ...
by Jeffret
Wed May 23, 2018 11:31 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Church apologizes for Racism!
Replies: 166
Views: 8821

Re: Church apologizes for Racism!

Sounds a bit like blaming the camera guy who brought the picture into focus. That's certainly not an excuse. There are many instances of the picture being exploitative, whether it was taken for that purpose or used that way subsequently. Many oppressed minorities are well accustomed to how a pictur...
by Jeffret
Wed May 23, 2018 11:25 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Church apologizes for Racism!
Replies: 166
Views: 8821

Re: Church apologizes for Racism!

I'm glad that Streeter recognized the problems caused by his actions. Whether there are also harms caused by another entity, such as the Church, is not entirely exculpatory. As someone who is not a member of the community most impacted by his "satire", neither Streeter nor I really get a voice to sa...
by Jeffret
Wed May 23, 2018 9:25 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Church apologizes for Racism!
Replies: 166
Views: 8821

Re: Church apologizes for Racism!

Creator of fake LDS apology does his own apologizing, acknowledges causing ‘tremendous pain for black Mormons’ “I caused tremendous pain for black Mormons who have patiently waited for so long,” Streeter wrote in a letter to The Salt Lake Tribune. “I am deeply sorry.” ... They felt “retraumatized” ...
by Jeffret
Thu May 17, 2018 9:03 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Church apologizes for Racism!
Replies: 166
Views: 8821

Re: Church apologizes for Racism!

It's fake. It goes to mormon-newroom, instead of the real mormonnewsroom. It claims Fair Use (Parody), but I'm pretty confident it doesn't qualify for either. It's hard to see the parody in it. There's little chance Fair Use applies. I'm sure Kirton McKonkie will have something to say something abou...
by Jeffret
Mon May 14, 2018 5:12 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Does anyone have examples of a GA being a bully?
Replies: 31
Views: 2300

Re: Does anyone have examples of a GA being a bully?

Reading through portions of it now. The fight against the ERA looks stunningly similar to some of the tactics used for the Prop 8 fight. The tactics didn't just spring into being for Prop 8. These are things the church has been practicing for a long time. The thing that surprised the church for Pro...
by Jeffret
Sun May 13, 2018 8:02 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: My wife opened her mouth and started a family beatdown
Replies: 13
Views: 1022

Re: My wife opened her mouth and started a family beatdown

. I really don't recall rhetoric like we are seeing now with family defenders of the faith getting so batshit crazy! Has Mormonism always produced these crazy people and we're just now recognizing it because our eyes have been opened? Its always been pretty much like that. Not for everyone of cours...
by Jeffret
Fri May 11, 2018 2:27 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: The War Against True Church History
Replies: 29
Views: 1745

Re: The War Against True Church History

DW has asked a few times during our discussions "If this information is available, how come more people aren't leaving the church?" I want to think its happening in droves, but it isn't, not by a long stretch, at least not in our area. I agree with her question, I am surprised people aren't coming ...
by Jeffret
Thu May 10, 2018 3:01 pm
Forum: The Coffee Shop
Topic: Scouting is dead
Replies: 11
Views: 917

Re: Scouting is dead

Gatorbait wrote:
Thu May 10, 2018 2:14 pm
Say what you want- the LDS Church is way more organized than the Scouts and will be just fine without them. No more begging for money for scouts.
I don't know. In my troop, we've never gotten to a troop meeting without a plan and just played basketball.
by Jeffret
Wed May 09, 2018 4:33 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: OFFICIAL: LDS to Scouting, "Good Day Sir!"
Replies: 13
Views: 920

Re: OFFICIAL: LDS to Scouting, "Good Day Sir!"

I kind of think the BSA wins in this situation.
by Jeffret
Wed May 09, 2018 12:34 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Is Church the New Santa
Replies: 8
Views: 610

Re: Is Church the New Santa

I would like to ask my nephews, but that would probably hurt my relationship with my siblings. I figure if they're adults then it's up to them who they want to talk with and about what, whether they want to engage in non-correlated topics with me. With a number of my nieces and nephews we've discus...
by Jeffret
Wed May 09, 2018 10:30 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: OFFICIAL: LDS to Scouting, "Good Day Sir!"
Replies: 13
Views: 920

Re: OFFICIAL: LDS to Scouting, "Good Day Sir!"

The effectiveness of the organization will, however, depend directly on the institutional LDS church and will no longer have benefits of the reputation or experience of the hundred year old BSA. Whatever they do will only be recognized within Mormonism. That's one of the things girls have been exci...
by Jeffret
Wed May 09, 2018 6:39 am
Forum: The Coffee Shop
Topic: Scouting is dead
Replies: 11
Views: 917

Re: Scouting is dead

Now maybe the BSA can abandon its last remaining discrimination. I think the BSA is heading in a better, more sustainable direction. They've long been held captive by conservative religions. Now they're opening up membership to.half the population and losing the Mormons. In contrast to the assertion...
by Jeffret
Tue May 08, 2018 10:12 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: There's no good time to make a break
Replies: 33
Views: 1849

Re: There's no good time to make a break

I don't know. I think the time I left turned out to be a really good time to do it. My wife was to a point where she was ready to accept and support it. She and the kids kept attending for nearly a year and then she had enough. The kids were just happy to not have to go anymore. We just kind of slip...
by Jeffret
Tue May 08, 2018 9:52 pm
Forum: The Coffee Shop
Topic: Scouting is dead
Replies: 11
Views: 917

Re: Scouting is dead

I wonder how my relatives are going to react to this. Probably just shrug it off and accept the decision I suppose. My parents have been super involved in scouts. We're just trying to figure out the schedule so they can be here for my youngest's Eagle court of honor. And my relative who's been pouri...
by Jeffret
Tue May 08, 2018 8:06 pm
Forum: The Coffee Shop
Topic: Scouting is dead
Replies: 11
Views: 917

Re: Scouting is dead

Wow
by Jeffret
Tue May 08, 2018 5:21 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Girls Allowed into Boy Scouts... Now the Church is Really Going to Dump Scouting
Replies: 32
Views: 1664

Re: Girls Allowed into Boy Scouts... Now the Church is Really Going to Dump Scouting

Just to clarify, the Cub camping program outside the church is family camping, and is typically one or two campouts a year. I don't think that's entirely true. As a Cub Scout my son's den went camping without all the families. There were also many other dens from other packs in attendance. Looks li...
by Jeffret
Thu May 03, 2018 6:06 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Defamation Lawsuit
Replies: 10
Views: 954

Re: Defamation Lawsuit

moksha wrote:
A New Name wrote:
Thu May 03, 2018 8:13 am
Read the comments in the Roanoke newspaper link. Very entertaining!
The Roanoke story comments do not seem to be accessible.
I see them at the bottom. They seemed to take a moment to load.
by Jeffret
Thu May 03, 2018 3:57 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Polygamy In Heaven
Replies: 26
Views: 1447

Re: Polygamy In Heaven

I don't have *personal* experience either, but when my daughter got into a threesome, I told her it wouldn't last because there is a lack of equality in a threesome. She tried to explain to me the difference between polygamy and polyamory and I told her the same thing applies and I didn't care if s...