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by consiglieri
Mon Jun 05, 2017 11:20 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Attorney Friend Leaves Church--Shelf Nuked
Replies: 15
Views: 1368

Re: Attorney Friend Leaves Church--Shelf Nuked

It is up as a premium episode right now on the main web page. http://www.mormondiscussionpodcast.org/ Not to put in too much of a plug, but this episode alone is worth the price of a year's subscription of $25.00. And no, I am making no money off any of it! :cry: On the other hand, to put in a most ...
by consiglieri
Wed May 31, 2017 1:48 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Attorney Friend Leaves Church--Shelf Nuked
Replies: 15
Views: 1368

Re: Attorney Friend Leaves Church--Shelf Nuked

If you listen to Bill Reel's most recent podcast, he talks about being at church a couple of weeks ago and the teacher asking the class why it is so many young people are leaving. The answer comes back, "Because they are listening to alternate voices trying to deceive them about Mormonism." That's w...
by consiglieri
Wed May 31, 2017 7:37 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Attorney Friend Leaves Church--Shelf Nuked
Replies: 15
Views: 1368

Attorney Friend Leaves Church--Shelf Nuked

My attorney-Mormon friend just left the LDS Church. We have spoken occasionally over the past year about issues related to Mormonism. He is very well informed and has definitely put in the effort to learn about his faith. Almost nothing I said to him was news, but he would laugh at it while laughing...
by consiglieri
Thu May 18, 2017 2:34 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Best. Podcast. Ever. Thanks Consiglieri!
Replies: 31
Views: 3438

Re: Best. Podcast. Ever. Thanks Consiglieri!

Thanks RFM. Whether you are aware or not, you have walked me through this mine-field of a transition through your in-depth analysis, breadth of research, gripping insights, and as a bonus, a hell-of-a-sense of dead-pan when needed. I also look to Bill, and others, but have to say nobody I've read o...
by consiglieri
Thu May 18, 2017 10:00 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Best. Podcast. Ever. Thanks Consiglieri!
Replies: 31
Views: 3438

Re: Best. Podcast. Ever. Thanks Consiglieri!

Wow, Hagoth!

Exceptionally, well put!

Exceptionally!
by consiglieri
Tue May 16, 2017 5:29 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Best. Podcast. Ever. Thanks Consiglieri!
Replies: 31
Views: 3438

Re: Best. Podcast. Ever. Thanks Consiglieri!

Thanks so much, Jeanne!

And great to see you here!
by consiglieri
Tue May 16, 2017 3:35 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Best. Podcast. Ever. Thanks Consiglieri!
Replies: 31
Views: 3438

Re: Best. Podcast. Ever. Thanks Consiglieri!

No Tof wrote:
Tue May 16, 2017 12:45 pm
I just wanted to add that the below waterline shot to the ship regarding the epistemology of Mormonism should result in a mad rush to jump to the right road.

This sums up very nicely why we no longer believe.
Thanks for the kind words!

I couldn't have done it without Elder Holland . . .
by consiglieri
Tue May 16, 2017 3:34 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Best. Podcast. Ever. Thanks Consiglieri!
Replies: 31
Views: 3438

Re: Best. Podcast. Ever. Thanks Consiglieri!

The hypothetical story at the end really drives home the absurdity of the whole thing. Truly brilliant, my friend. I seriously considered driving all the way up to the NW just to give you a big man-hug. That is super kind of you, mi amigo. Just be sure to leave room between us for the Book of Mormo...
by consiglieri
Tue May 16, 2017 3:33 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Best. Podcast. Ever. Thanks Consiglieri!
Replies: 31
Views: 3438

Re: Best. Podcast. Ever. Thanks Consiglieri!

No Tof wrote:
Tue May 16, 2017 12:22 pm


The music at the end of this podcast made me wonder who it was being played for?

Ambiguity can be a beautiful thing.
by consiglieri
Tue May 16, 2017 10:39 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Best. Podcast. Ever. Thanks Consiglieri!
Replies: 31
Views: 3438

Re: Best. Podcast. Ever. Thanks Consiglieri!

You folks are so kind. Thanks for the support and encouragement!

It couldn't come at a better time!

I really appreciate you!

All the Best!

--Consiglieri
by consiglieri
Mon May 08, 2017 2:21 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Upset by Elder Holland Story
Replies: 27
Views: 3394

Re: Upset by Elder Holland Story

I thought it meant Recovery From Mormonism... But I didn't think you were that hard-core yet :-) By the way, I'd love to hear a short 10-minute RFM podcast on this particular talk that Holland did. Somebody needs to point out when they say stupid stuff :-) Ask and ye shall receive. It is in the wor...
by consiglieri
Mon May 08, 2017 7:21 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Advice to "study MORE!"
Replies: 17
Views: 1379

Re: Advice to "study MORE!"

I have heard this advice to "study church history more" on several occasions now. I have heard it from Elder Christofferson who tells people who are having trouble with issues in church history, "Don't make the mistake of not studying church history enough." I think it is a total strategy, and is an...
by consiglieri
Wed Apr 26, 2017 7:48 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Satan Uses Logic and Reasoning Against Us?
Replies: 23
Views: 2709

Re: Satan Uses Logic and Reasoning Against Us?

I have a friend who once taught me the following expression:

The only difference between the Catholic Church and the Mormon Church is 2,000 years.


Frankly, I think the Mormon Church may be ahead of schedule.
by consiglieri
Wed Apr 26, 2017 6:51 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Upset by Elder Holland Story
Replies: 27
Views: 3394

Re: Upset by Elder Holland Story

God told me to serve a mission, it ended up one of the worst decisions of my life. I came home after having a mental breakdown and attempting to take my own life. I was very confused as to why God would have me go on a mission to try to kill me. The answer came back: God sent me on a mission becaus...
by consiglieri
Wed Apr 26, 2017 3:36 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Upset by Elder Holland Story
Replies: 27
Views: 3394

Re: Upset by Elder Holland Story

Thanks so much for your thoughtful and insightful comments, Pale Rider.

I really appreciate them. I am going to chew them over for some time to come.
by consiglieri
Wed Apr 26, 2017 3:26 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: 2017 General Conference Autopsy Report
Replies: 20
Views: 2995

Re: 2017 General Conference Autopsy Report

I am troubled by the fact that, in a church that has always claimed amazing spiritual gifts, powers and ongoing prophesy, it is now becoming a sign of weakness and apostasy to expect any manifestations of the very things that we are taught make our church superior to all others. I sometimes wonder ...
by consiglieri
Wed Apr 26, 2017 3:14 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Upset by Elder Holland Story
Replies: 27
Views: 3394

Re: Upset by Elder Holland Story

redjay wrote:
Wed Apr 26, 2017 3:02 pm



RFM?

Radio Free Mormon.

I flatter myself it is becoming so well-known it can be referred to by initials.

:D
by consiglieri
Wed Apr 26, 2017 3:00 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Upset by Elder Holland Story
Replies: 27
Views: 3394

Re: Upset by Elder Holland Story

Good grief, RFM just did a whole podcast detailing how the LDS Church has no miracles or revelation left to speak of. Now we have this story where Elder Holland claims a revelation. Only the revelation is wrong. And that is the miracle! We have come to the point where not only is there no revelation...
by consiglieri
Wed Apr 26, 2017 2:58 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Upset by Elder Holland Story
Replies: 27
Views: 3394

Re: Upset by Elder Holland Story

One of the things this story illustrates is that if there is a choice between Elder Holland being wrong and God being wrong, Elder Holland is going to throw God under the bus . . . every time.
by consiglieri
Wed Apr 26, 2017 11:05 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Upset by Elder Holland Story
Replies: 27
Views: 3394

Upset by Elder Holland Story

I just yesterday afternoon found out about Elder Holland's "Wrong Roads" story. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNQC-_srxH8 Elder Holland tells how he and his son were driving home after a day in the wilds and came to a fork in the road and they didn't know which way to go. So they both prayed and w...