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by consiglieri
Thu Jul 06, 2017 4:22 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Be Not Deceived
Replies: 35
Views: 18358

Re: Be Not Deceived

I have heard a lot about the Milk Strippings being bunk, but is this intellectually honest by the DAMU or has it grown into a mythology of its own? What I mean is, didn't Thomas Marsh himself reflect upon this being a reason for his disaffection upon return to the Utah saints? I realize that it is ...
by consiglieri
Tue Jun 06, 2017 3:41 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Spying for the Lord
Replies: 20
Views: 15560

Re: Spying for the Lord

Hey...you CES or GA people out there reading this?.... GET A LIFE! STOP telling LIES because you excuse yourself on the grounds "Its for the Lord". You are NOT different because you are Mormon and wear special underware. As I recall, Jesus said that God is no Respecter of Persons...and that scriptu...
by consiglieri
Tue Jun 06, 2017 1:32 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Spying for the Lord
Replies: 20
Views: 15560

Re: Spying for the Lord

John Lynch interview in January of 2016 in which he admits to being contacted by the church to help gather information on dissident voices and helping them out by sending along information. Do you have a reference or link to this? Here you go! http://mormondiscussions.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=1&t...
by consiglieri
Tue Jun 06, 2017 8:31 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Spying for the Lord
Replies: 20
Views: 15560

Spying for the Lord

I am trying to assemble material for a future podcast on the Strengthening Church Members Committee and how it acts within the structure of the LDS Church. I have put together some initial thoughts on the subject and wanted to know if anybody has additional examples or ideas. Here is what I have so ...
by consiglieri
Mon Jun 05, 2017 11:20 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Attorney Friend Leaves Church--Shelf Nuked
Replies: 15
Views: 6340

Re: Attorney Friend Leaves Church--Shelf Nuked

It is up as a premium episode right now on the main web page. http://www.mormondiscussionpodcast.org/ Not to put in too much of a plug, but this episode alone is worth the price of a year's subscription of $25.00. And no, I am making no money off any of it! :cry: On the other hand, to put in a most ...
by consiglieri
Wed May 31, 2017 1:48 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Attorney Friend Leaves Church--Shelf Nuked
Replies: 15
Views: 6340

Re: Attorney Friend Leaves Church--Shelf Nuked

If you listen to Bill Reel's most recent podcast, he talks about being at church a couple of weeks ago and the teacher asking the class why it is so many young people are leaving. The answer comes back, "Because they are listening to alternate voices trying to deceive them about Mormonism." That's w...
by consiglieri
Wed May 31, 2017 7:37 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Attorney Friend Leaves Church--Shelf Nuked
Replies: 15
Views: 6340

Attorney Friend Leaves Church--Shelf Nuked

My attorney-Mormon friend just left the LDS Church. We have spoken occasionally over the past year about issues related to Mormonism. He is very well informed and has definitely put in the effort to learn about his faith. Almost nothing I said to him was news, but he would laugh at it while laughing...
by consiglieri
Thu May 18, 2017 2:34 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Best. Podcast. Ever. Thanks Consiglieri!
Replies: 31
Views: 16521

Re: Best. Podcast. Ever. Thanks Consiglieri!

Thanks RFM. Whether you are aware or not, you have walked me through this mine-field of a transition through your in-depth analysis, breadth of research, gripping insights, and as a bonus, a hell-of-a-sense of dead-pan when needed. I also look to Bill, and others, but have to say nobody I've read o...
by consiglieri
Thu May 18, 2017 10:00 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Best. Podcast. Ever. Thanks Consiglieri!
Replies: 31
Views: 16521

Re: Best. Podcast. Ever. Thanks Consiglieri!

Wow, Hagoth!

Exceptionally, well put!

Exceptionally!
by consiglieri
Tue May 16, 2017 5:29 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Best. Podcast. Ever. Thanks Consiglieri!
Replies: 31
Views: 16521

Re: Best. Podcast. Ever. Thanks Consiglieri!

Thanks so much, Jeanne!

And great to see you here!
by consiglieri
Tue May 16, 2017 3:35 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Best. Podcast. Ever. Thanks Consiglieri!
Replies: 31
Views: 16521

Re: Best. Podcast. Ever. Thanks Consiglieri!

No Tof wrote:
Tue May 16, 2017 12:45 pm
I just wanted to add that the below waterline shot to the ship regarding the epistemology of Mormonism should result in a mad rush to jump to the right road.

This sums up very nicely why we no longer believe.
Thanks for the kind words!

I couldn't have done it without Elder Holland . . .
by consiglieri
Tue May 16, 2017 3:34 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Best. Podcast. Ever. Thanks Consiglieri!
Replies: 31
Views: 16521

Re: Best. Podcast. Ever. Thanks Consiglieri!

The hypothetical story at the end really drives home the absurdity of the whole thing. Truly brilliant, my friend. I seriously considered driving all the way up to the NW just to give you a big man-hug. That is super kind of you, mi amigo. Just be sure to leave room between us for the Book of Mormo...
by consiglieri
Tue May 16, 2017 3:33 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Best. Podcast. Ever. Thanks Consiglieri!
Replies: 31
Views: 16521

Re: Best. Podcast. Ever. Thanks Consiglieri!

No Tof wrote:
Tue May 16, 2017 12:22 pm


The music at the end of this podcast made me wonder who it was being played for?

Ambiguity can be a beautiful thing.
by consiglieri
Tue May 16, 2017 10:39 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Best. Podcast. Ever. Thanks Consiglieri!
Replies: 31
Views: 16521

Re: Best. Podcast. Ever. Thanks Consiglieri!

You folks are so kind. Thanks for the support and encouragement!

It couldn't come at a better time!

I really appreciate you!

All the Best!

--Consiglieri
by consiglieri
Mon May 08, 2017 2:21 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Upset by Elder Holland Story
Replies: 27
Views: 16095

Re: Upset by Elder Holland Story

I thought it meant Recovery From Mormonism... But I didn't think you were that hard-core yet :-) By the way, I'd love to hear a short 10-minute RFM podcast on this particular talk that Holland did. Somebody needs to point out when they say stupid stuff :-) Ask and ye shall receive. It is in the wor...
by consiglieri
Mon May 08, 2017 7:21 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Advice to "study MORE!"
Replies: 17
Views: 9182

Re: Advice to "study MORE!"

I have heard this advice to "study church history more" on several occasions now. I have heard it from Elder Christofferson who tells people who are having trouble with issues in church history, "Don't make the mistake of not studying church history enough." I think it is a total strategy, and is an...
by consiglieri
Wed Apr 26, 2017 7:48 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Satan Uses Logic and Reasoning Against Us?
Replies: 23
Views: 11460

Re: Satan Uses Logic and Reasoning Against Us?

I have a friend who once taught me the following expression:

The only difference between the Catholic Church and the Mormon Church is 2,000 years.


Frankly, I think the Mormon Church may be ahead of schedule.
by consiglieri
Wed Apr 26, 2017 6:51 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Upset by Elder Holland Story
Replies: 27
Views: 16095

Re: Upset by Elder Holland Story

God told me to serve a mission, it ended up one of the worst decisions of my life. I came home after having a mental breakdown and attempting to take my own life. I was very confused as to why God would have me go on a mission to try to kill me. The answer came back: God sent me on a mission becaus...
by consiglieri
Wed Apr 26, 2017 3:36 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Upset by Elder Holland Story
Replies: 27
Views: 16095

Re: Upset by Elder Holland Story

Thanks so much for your thoughtful and insightful comments, Pale Rider.

I really appreciate them. I am going to chew them over for some time to come.
by consiglieri
Wed Apr 26, 2017 3:26 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: 2017 General Conference Autopsy Report
Replies: 20
Views: 17771

Re: 2017 General Conference Autopsy Report

I am troubled by the fact that, in a church that has always claimed amazing spiritual gifts, powers and ongoing prophesy, it is now becoming a sign of weakness and apostasy to expect any manifestations of the very things that we are taught make our church superior to all others. I sometimes wonder ...