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by Angel
Sun May 12, 2019 1:44 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Mother’s Day
Replies: 7
Views: 472

Re: Mother’s Day

I made it through the mother's day sacrament and services - did not sing "families can be together forever...if you go to the temple.. song... I no longer believe in an exclusionary God that splits families apart. In RS I was able to comment on the diverse influential women in my life, from traditio...
by Angel
Sat May 11, 2019 4:04 pm
Forum: Introductions
Topic: Newly disillusioned...
Replies: 26
Views: 1356

Re: Newly disillusioned...

I simply mean that I can't talk about Joseph Smith, the restoration, modern prophets, or much of our current "doctrine" in the way most active TBM (95% of our ward) would expect. It would either have to be disruptive, or be a lie (loss of integrity). So I follow the mantra of not saying anything at...
by Angel
Fri May 10, 2019 10:39 am
Forum: Introductions
Topic: Newly disillusioned...
Replies: 26
Views: 1356

Re: Newly disillusioned...

... trying to find something acceptable to say that let's me feel like I still have some amount of integrity. ... How are you defining integrity? Honestly reading all sources, and being open to changing your viewpoint when given new information = integrity to me. In any event - I'm sure it is all d...
by Angel
Mon May 06, 2019 6:03 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Prescription for Coffee
Replies: 5
Views: 413

Re: Prescription for Coffee

I use straight caffeine pills - you are able to more closely control the dosage, no added calories, much easier to pop a pill than brew a cup when needed :)

Although when I do have time, I do enjoy a nice cup of Jo - just never seem to have the time.
by Angel
Sun May 05, 2019 5:36 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Pornography is worse than adultery, apparently.
Replies: 13
Views: 745

Re: Pornography is worse than adultery, apparently.

Things that upset me about the addition recovery groups at church 1) they are led by untrained volunteers 2) they completely ignore the victims (there are way more groups for addicts than there are for victims) 3) they enable abuse to continue - pat on the head with no consequences The HP who abuse...
by Angel
Sun May 05, 2019 5:24 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: No "sealings" in the temple, only marriages?
Replies: 8
Views: 795

No "sealings" in the temple, only marriages?

Someone else pointed this out and I just want to be sure it is true - if you look at the exact wording in the temple ceremony, people are not actually sealed to one another, they are only "married" for time and eternity. There are individual blessings sealed on patrons, but these are for the individ...
by Angel
Thu May 02, 2019 8:20 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Pornography is worse than adultery, apparently.
Replies: 13
Views: 745

Re: Pornography is worse than adultery, apparently.

Things that upset me about the addition recovery groups at church 1) they are led by untrained volunteers 2) they completely ignore the victims (there are way more groups for addicts than there are for victims) 3) they enable abuse to continue - pat on the head with no consequences The HP who abused...
by Angel
Wed Apr 10, 2019 8:04 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: My chance to speak on Easter
Replies: 18
Views: 1016

Re: My chance to speak on Easter

I would just stick with scriptures from the Bible. Talk about the garden tomb in Jerusalem - how neat it is that you can actually see where these events took place (unlike anything in the BOM :lol: ) I like to use the BLB - look at original words, and different translations: https://www.blueletterbi...
by Angel
Wed Apr 03, 2019 7:25 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: What was your first NOM thought?
Replies: 46
Views: 2450

Re: What was your first NOM thought?

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by Angel
Tue Apr 02, 2019 6:58 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: What was your first NOM thought?
Replies: 46
Views: 2450

Re: What was your first NOM thought?

....I am still subject to occasional TBM thoughts, but I also am still deciding what to be when I grow up, so...... I am still trying to decide too. I think there are multiple ways to do "Mormon". One way is the naive - just keep yourself ignorant - see the church through rose-colored glasses appro...
by Angel
Sat Mar 16, 2019 4:32 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: If the church were to admit and apologize...
Replies: 22
Views: 974

Re: If the church were to admit and apologize...

Strange - the Catholics claim infallibility - Petrine supremacy of the pope, and yet no Catholic I have ever talked with believes their church or pope to be perfect...

Mormons do not claim the prophet or the church are perfect.... and yet... the culture acts like they are??
by Angel
Thu Mar 14, 2019 9:47 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: on being outside
Replies: 17
Views: 1038

Re: on being outside

My parents did not attend my temple marriage (they were never members), and now I might not attend my children's marriage. I guess you could see it as part of letting go, letting them start a new life without you. Words over an alter and a pretty dress are not what create a marriage. Marriage is the...
by Angel
Thu Mar 14, 2019 9:41 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: What was your first NOM thought?
Replies: 46
Views: 2450

Re: What was your first NOM thought?

....I am still subject to occasional TBM thoughts, but I also am still deciding what to be when I grow up, so...... I am still trying to decide too. I think there are multiple ways to do "Mormon". One way is the naive - just keep yourself ignorant - see the church through rose-colored glasses appro...
by Angel
Thu Mar 14, 2019 9:34 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: If the church were to admit and apologize...
Replies: 22
Views: 974

Re: If the church were to admit and apologize...

What do you think, how far would a simple apology go? ...It would take a while to make up for that, and even then, would trust actually be restored? What if they did not ask for your trust - but instead used their faults to promote individual agency and beliefs? I'm on the fence because of family (...
by Angel
Thu Mar 14, 2019 9:24 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: What was your first NOM thought?
Replies: 46
Views: 2450

Re: What was your first NOM thought?

A homeless girl came to church asking for help - and our bishop at the time told me "people like that, I give them $50, and send them on their way". It shocked me that they were unwilling to really help... (The homeless girl ended up staying with me for almost a year... she is ok now, but it was due...
by Angel
Tue Mar 12, 2019 9:02 am
Forum: Support
Topic: If the church were to admit and apologize...
Replies: 22
Views: 974

If the church were to admit and apologize...

I was thinking about forgiveness, and the repentance process. I recently suggested to our stake president that the church is not perfect and should go through the repentance process just as its members are asked to. ... the church is kind of like a marriage - if there is dishonesty etc., if everyone...
by Angel
Fri Jan 11, 2019 2:28 pm
Forum: Mixed Faith Relationships
Topic: Dr. Laura gives advice to mormon couple
Replies: 10
Views: 1268

Re: Dr. Laura gives advice to mormon couple

I'm not sure if I agree with "no details of why I left" idea. Different families have different dynamics, and there are kind vs. confrontational ways of sharing things... Why not - "I can share why I left with you, but know it would involve delving into subjects you might find painful. If you would ...
by Angel
Sun Jan 06, 2019 6:54 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: WW Devo for YA Help
Replies: 2
Views: 314

WW Devo for YA Help

Long story short - mixed faith marriage, kids in the church, I am supposed to 'help' them study for their upcoming lesson from: https://www.lds.org/study/broadcasts/worldwide-devotional-for-young-adults/2018/06/hope-of-israel?lang=eng I would like to send them the *full* lesson, and was hoping you c...
by Angel
Thu Jan 03, 2019 4:11 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Need Advice - Potential Visit from a Seventy
Replies: 44
Views: 2309

Re: Need Advice - Potential Visit from a Seventy

I would conditionally attend - on the condition they agree to allow the mtg to be recorded. Let them know you represent a group of inactive members (us) who are all interested in what a mtg like this looks like. If they are truly interested in helping inactives who all have very similar concerns, th...
by Angel
Sun Dec 30, 2018 7:42 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Struggling...A Lot
Replies: 29
Views: 1478

Re: Struggling...A Lot

Sounds like you need a support group - if your spouse is struggling too, that might be good to do some kind of group together. What city do you live near? Maybe someone here can help with local resources for you?