Search found 108 matches

by Yobispo
Wed Jul 25, 2018 1:20 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: The worst (least inspired) decisions by Church leaders
Replies: 20
Views: 1442

Re: The worst (least inspired) decisions by Church leaders

Printing the Articles of Faith. No evangelists, we never hear about he New Jerusalem anymore, they punish the kids of gay parents, and they certainly aren't honest. Also, they left out some ordinances. The AoF describes some other church.

Or maybe Zion's Camp.
by Yobispo
Fri Jul 20, 2018 8:54 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Church vandalized
Replies: 10
Views: 883

Re: Church vandalized

Palerider wrote:
Thu Jul 19, 2018 1:25 pm

Why do we see such an immediate, unequivocal response by the church when it's one of their buildings
He touched the building. Open and closed.
by Yobispo
Fri Jul 20, 2018 8:53 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Church seeks MTC case to be dismissed
Replies: 18
Views: 1448

Re: Church seeks MTC case to be dismissed

I listened to the entire recording. I didn't hear a man struggling with dementia.
by Yobispo
Tue Jul 17, 2018 10:56 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: My list/summary of why the church can't be true... (29 and growing)
Replies: 54
Views: 3921

Re: My list/summary of why the church can't be true...

I would add "Lack of modern mircales". If the same priesthood is here, just like biblical times, then we would see miracles today. I am thinking specifically about lack of healings. -Every conference story about giving a blessing ends in someone dying -Now, it is greater to have faith NOT to be hea...
by Yobispo
Thu May 24, 2018 9:02 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Elder Holland vs. the 1949 First Presidency
Replies: 45
Views: 3339

Re: Elder Holland vs. the 1949 First Presidency

The LDS leadership has this really stupid practice of ALWAYS protecting their predecessors, unless and until they have no other choice. Holland is lying. I'm sure he has his mental-gymnastic reasons for doing such, but its a lie. The 1949 message you quote is definitive, and even used by the FP as ...
by Yobispo
Mon May 14, 2018 9:03 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Priesthood Restoration timeline - Official church narrative vs Historical timeline
Replies: 41
Views: 2889

Re: Priesthood Restoration timeline - Official church narrative vs Historical timeline

Love it. Excellent work. *I'm not familiar with Grant Palmer, but you cite him a few times. Does his work withstand scrutiny? I know he was an outspoken critic of the church so some people will discredit him for that alone (his bias). His book was a page-turner for me. The one thing that many of us...
by Yobispo
Thu May 03, 2018 9:12 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Why I love the essays
Replies: 54
Views: 3354

Re: Why I love the essays

Moksha, your picture here is actually sad. Look at their faces! They look tired, angry, and worn. I hope they think all the adoration is worth it.... These are guys who traded every weekend of their lives for adoration. Can you imagine spending the rest of your life in Stake Conference? Kill me.
by Yobispo
Wed Apr 25, 2018 8:14 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: NEW INFO ON REDACTED BYU POLICE REPORTS
Replies: 27
Views: 2136

Re: NEW INFO ON REDACTED BYU POLICE REPORTS

It was Thomas S. Monson. Did anyone else hear a dramatic orchestra hit when you read this? Thanks for the update, Consiglieri! And thanks for breaking it out as a separate topic. I really hope the audio tape will be forthcoming. What will you do then? You've already gone to all caps for the subject...
by Yobispo
Wed Jan 17, 2018 11:09 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: New presidency same old church
Replies: 15
Views: 1088

Re: New presidency same old church

All of this is dead-on, very well written. We did get one new slogan yesterday, "stay on the covenant path". You can start printing t-shirts now.
by Yobispo
Thu Sep 07, 2017 8:41 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: LDS temples in millennium
Replies: 10
Views: 1167

Re: LDS temples in millennium

Not an original idea of mine, but the Prophet strolls down to the temple and does a single baptism for all of the dead (maybe he does one for the guys, his 3rd wife does one for all the ladies). Then they do a leisurely endowment for the same generic couple. It's all symbolic anyway, so why not? Bu...
by Yobispo
Thu Sep 07, 2017 8:39 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Any Strangite fans out there?
Replies: 17
Views: 1641

Re: Any Strangite fans out there?

I love me some Strang... I also like to bring up the Strang group because of the similarities to things that TBMs hold dear, specifically Witnesses and revelations. And when you add that Martin Fricking Harris was one of the Witnesses, it gets very quiet. Another reason I love Strang is that eventua...
by Yobispo
Mon Jun 19, 2017 10:34 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: LDS temples in millennium
Replies: 10
Views: 1167

Re: LDS temples in millennium

Not an original idea of mine, but the Prophet strolls down to the temple and does a single baptism for all of the dead (maybe he does one for the guys, his 3rd wife does one for all the ladies). Then they do a leisurely endowment for the same generic couple. It's all symbolic anyway, so why not? But...
by Yobispo
Tue Jun 13, 2017 10:04 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Mormon Stories "Middle Way" Series
Replies: 11
Views: 809

Re: Mormon Stories "Middle Way" Series

I like John a lot, but I thought he came off very condescending in this interview. I thought it was especially odd considering his long journey and years of trying to find a middle way himself. I also thought he went out of his way to take credit for the nuanced ways to define belief, as though nobo...
by Yobispo
Thu Jun 08, 2017 1:57 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Thought Terminating Cliche
Replies: 31
Views: 2193

Re: Thought Terminating Cliche

Where did you read/hear that?

Approved sources.
by Yobispo
Wed May 24, 2017 4:19 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: MONSON no longer going to COB.
Replies: 24
Views: 1702

Re: MONSON no longer going to COB.

This is what I don't get... There is such a thing as video cameras that can record and then rebroadcast said recordings. If TSM is really still sitting in council with the other Q15 only is now working from home, he should be okay to let the church membership know himself either via prerecorded mes...
by Yobispo
Fri Apr 07, 2017 11:31 am
Forum: Support
Topic: What mission did you serve in
Replies: 83
Views: 7041

Re: What mission did you serve in

Canada Toronto (91-93). Mission split in 93, went home from the C T West.
by Yobispo
Wed Mar 29, 2017 2:28 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: BoM
Replies: 70
Views: 8257

Re: BoM

Hagoth, This one took on a life of it's own. John did a live-feed on Friday, uploaded it as a podcast and then took it down. That all happened over the course of about 3 days. Lots of drama. You can find the whole recording on the Mormon Leaks site, of course. https://mormonleaks.io/wiki/index.php?t...
by Yobispo
Wed Mar 29, 2017 10:57 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: BoM
Replies: 70
Views: 8257

Re: BoM

Bloodhound, There is a fresh wound in my journey, the 3 Witnesses, and i think it relates to your question. In the recently secret-recorded interview on MS podcast, the historian easily dismissed the 3 Witnesses as merely a "visionary" experience. Now, I've read that before but it struck me how his ...
by Yobispo
Mon Oct 31, 2016 10:20 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Updated mormon and gay website- pitiful!
Replies: 8
Views: 1512

Re: Updated mormon and gay website- pitiful!

I have a daughter at a church school who came out in 2016. She is amazing, by the way, but had a rough road in almost complete silence because of how her daddy, ME, followed the $%#@ prophet on gay issues. She is very involved in the gay student organization (which is still off-campus, BTW) and so s...
by Yobispo
Mon Oct 31, 2016 10:14 am
Forum: Introductions
Topic: Explain your avatar choice
Replies: 109
Views: 13455

Re: Explain your avatar choice

I love the apocalyptic biker (Randall Tex Cobb) from Raising Arizona, and I loved him Uncommon Valor as well (he wore a hand grenade on a chain around his neck, just in case). I think I chose him because I've been pretty ragey about all things church for quite a while. I have made a goal to change t...