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by Gatorbait
Thu Apr 06, 2023 7:54 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Let’s talk about new temples for a minute
Replies: 18
Views: 1720

Re: Let’s talk about new temples for a minute

As a contractor, earlier in my career, we built four temples, two big ones and two smallish ones. They were handled by the church special projects committee and as far as I know still are. The temples were really fun and rewarding to build, and even my nonmember father enjoyed seeing them built and ...
by Gatorbait
Thu Apr 06, 2023 7:38 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Alcohol?
Replies: 23
Views: 3878

Re: Alcohol?

Pretty much drank my entire life apart for missionary years, a few before and a few afterwards. Never heavy, but from time to time. A beer here or there, occasional glass of wine, some whiskey from time to time, but rarely. Although I enjoy it, I think that alcohol is a good one to stay away from, a...
by Gatorbait
Sun Apr 02, 2023 2:06 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Covenant Path... where's the trailhead?
Replies: 18
Views: 1324

Re: Covenant Path... where's the trailhead?

This covenant path business has gotten way out of hand now though, I agree. Every time I go to church, which is not often, I here this covenant business over and over. Difficult not to be cynical about it. Interesting how this stuff gets started. Remember when Thomas Monson would introduce himself a...
by Gatorbait
Fri Mar 31, 2023 3:14 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Hard time dealing with it !
Replies: 7
Views: 806

Re: Hard time dealing with it !

Never heard of Rumble, but it sounds like your wife is going down the same rabbit hole that a lot of Mormons seem to find. Good luck with that noble mon. What ever happened to the good old days before Fox news and all the happy horse s**t that they spew out, Glen Beck, the rest of the gang? Has ther...
by Gatorbait
Fri Mar 31, 2023 3:03 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Youth activities
Replies: 13
Views: 1458

Re: Youth activities

Red Ryder wrote: They still hold Wednesday night mutual and do regular activities.

Do they still call it mutual?

Not following this very closely although I've got grandkids in whatever the hell they call it.

The news that they gave the young men's president the old heave-ho was news to me.
by Gatorbait
Thu Mar 30, 2023 9:14 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Sealing rules?
Replies: 26
Views: 1945

Re: Sealing rules?

This sealing business is vexing is it not? First of all, a lot of Mormons get married way too young because they want to have sex without the guilt. By the time they figure out that they made a mistake and are incompatible with their choice, they're into their second or third curtain climber. Wife h...
by Gatorbait
Thu Mar 30, 2023 9:03 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Konference Predictions
Replies: 20
Views: 1420

Re: Konference Predictions

Hey, maybe something good this time: 1. It's okay to drink coffee and tea. Again. 2. The church is well enough off so you don't have to be a full tithe payer to attend the temple. 3. Mormons can drink a bit of wine or beer in front of each other. Again. 4. The church is going to focus now on serving...
by Gatorbait
Thu Mar 30, 2023 8:46 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Illusory Truth article.
Replies: 3
Views: 636

Re: Illusory Truth article.

Great article. Thanks for sharing. It is interesting to me how many of us have mellowed through the past eight years or so after having our shelves come crashing down, finding out that the church that many of us heard about on our mother's knee, so to speak, and believed in is as artificial as a wat...
by Gatorbait
Tue Feb 28, 2023 10:14 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Temple attendance, temple recommend, temple, temple temple!
Replies: 21
Views: 2169

Re: Temple attendance, temple recommend, temple, temple temple!

Interesting post. Thank you. I'd like to have been a fly on the wall whist you had your discussion with the Bishop. For whatever reason, temples and things related to them give a lot of comfort and peace to people and so be it. Others like to be outside, as mentioned, enjoying God's real creations. ...
by Gatorbait
Mon Feb 27, 2023 4:31 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Adam Ondi Ahman
Replies: 8
Views: 914

Re: Adam Ondi Ahman

First of all, there's no way I could listen to the talk from Wendy. Tried for about a minute. Nope. Not happening, so no comments about her talk. The Reddit stuff - interesting, but it's the sort of stuff that lends to make one wonder if this so called talk happened or if the one who posted it is tr...
by Gatorbait
Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:20 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Ultra far right Christian nation Mormons
Replies: 11
Views: 1552

Re: Ultra far right Christian nation Mormons

Great article by Angel. Read most of it and had to stop.

Hard to know where we are headed with this Christian Nationalism nonsense. Why does it sound so much like bigotry?

Many thanks for sharing the article.
by Gatorbait
Fri Feb 17, 2023 5:44 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Ultra far right Christian nation Mormons
Replies: 11
Views: 1552

Ultra far right Christian nation Mormons

Had a discussion with a person who I have known for many years and who I've disagreed with on many occasions, stuff we all experience. This time however, the person started telling me how good of a person Donald Trump is, together with his sons. What do you say to this if you disagree? Nothing. Whic...
by Gatorbait
Fri Feb 17, 2023 5:28 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Why does Scripture become irrelavant?
Replies: 10
Views: 728

Re: Why does Scripture become irrelavant?

Loved the responses to this thread, especially the Red Rider poem. Interestingly enough, I'm going to go out on a proverbial limb here and say that most NOMs are fairly knowledgeable regarding the LDS standard works and have probably studied them with pure intent really searching for answers. This o...
by Gatorbait
Fri Feb 17, 2023 5:05 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Ever wished you would just cease to be?
Replies: 23
Views: 2763

Re: Ever wished you would just cease to be?

It is always a comfort to hear that someone decides not to take the drastic step of taking their life, as it has a long-lasting consequences for the living left behind. Those of us who have gone through a suicide of someone close to them understands. I'm not sure if you really understand unless it h...
by Gatorbait
Tue Feb 14, 2023 12:07 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Ever wished you would just cease to be?
Replies: 23
Views: 2763

Ever wished you would just cease to be?

Having grown up in a mixed faith background, agnostic dad and Mormon mom, I struggled, as I do now, to believe in any god. Years ago, I heard a recording of Hugh B. Brown, a story of his struggle with the devil one time before he was called to be an apostle, and he said that he wished that he could ...
by Gatorbait
Tue Jan 31, 2023 11:33 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Can there be an Alma?
Replies: 9
Views: 981

Re: Can there be an Alma?

Interesting subject and I'll admit, I was fond of the Alma the younger story back when I believed that the B of M was true. But still and all, I'm not surprised that the story or one like it is in the B of M because the story is one like Paul the Apostle, the story of the bad boy being changed by an...
by Gatorbait
Tue Jan 31, 2023 11:21 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Noah and the Flood
Replies: 19
Views: 1673

Re: Noah and the Flood

Dogbite wrote: "Noah is the specific issue that broke my shelf." Yowser- first time I've ever heard of Noah and the ark being a shelf breaker to anyone. Having passed that old wore-out story off together with half the other nonsense in the Old Testament years ago, it is surprising to hear that of yo...
by Gatorbait
Tue Jan 31, 2023 11:10 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Why Do I Still Feel the Spirit? (when I don't really believe)
Replies: 22
Views: 1882

Re: Why Do I Still Feel the Spirit? (when I don't really believe)

First of all, thank you for this thought provoking post. Nothing more mysterious in the Mormon church than the Holy Ghost and I for one have never believed that Mormons have or had an inside track on spiritual awareness, and the "gift" of the Holy Ghost is not a thing I believe at all, nor have I be...
by Gatorbait
Sat Jan 28, 2023 3:24 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Noah and the Flood
Replies: 19
Views: 1673

Re: Noah and the Flood

There's not much in the Old Testament that I've got much use for apart from some of the Psalms and things that aren't just plain silly, like God killing off everything in the world that wasn't in the ark. Good grief. I know, I know, some theologians have answers for the flood, rain just happened lik...
by Gatorbait
Fri Jan 20, 2023 3:47 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Changes I have seen. Does anyone agree?
Replies: 17
Views: 2141

Re: Changes I have seen. Does anyone agree?

Black Mormon wrote: People are less gullible nowadays and like to use fact-checks. Good point, and I think we can blame it on people who sometimes don't know that they don't know, and base claims on things they have received "on their mother's knee" so to speak. They "feel" the source is good, that ...