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by Gatorbait
Tue Aug 21, 2018 11:40 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: How and when did the word "even" start a declaration for Church Leaders?
Replies: 6
Views: 623

How and when did the word "even" start a declaration for Church Leaders?

Don't want to be a jerk here, but why did the word "even" start a prophetic statement? Pres. Nelson said that the Lord advised him that using Mormon and LDS and all these nicknames for the church- that's bad form- and then Nelson goes on to say the church should be called by its proper name: Even Th...
by Gatorbait
Thu Aug 09, 2018 1:52 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: New Ministering Program
Replies: 56
Views: 3606

Re: New Ministering Program

This one has been kicking around a while and I've not given it much thought. The way I see it, the old Home Teaching and Visiting Teaching was antiquated and needed to be re-vamped. I'll give credit where credit is do- the church is at least trying. This may be a step in the right direction. No more...
by Gatorbait
Thu Aug 09, 2018 1:44 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Pope Francis Does What President Nelson Would Never Do
Replies: 4
Views: 483

Re: Pope Francis Does What President Nelson Would Never Do

Wow. Thanks for sharing that beautiful message. Wow. I needed that. When my grown children were around me last Christmas, and a few of them are TBMs, I told them that this Pope is something special. He is the real deal. He is the ambassador to the world that Christians can be good people and that At...
by Gatorbait
Wed Aug 08, 2018 7:49 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Pacific Islanders love the BoM
Replies: 7
Views: 643

Re: Pacific Islanders love the BoM

Interesting article, I think. Regarding the comments....I read some of them, and when I got to the Dan Peterson comment, I thought, "This bozo thinks that he has the last say on all sorts of things". I don't know when I've had less respect for LDS apologists, as we have discussed before, than I do n...
by Gatorbait
Mon Aug 06, 2018 12:58 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: When are they going to let Mormons drink coffee in front of each other?
Replies: 20
Views: 1293

Re: When are they going to let Mormons drink coffee in front of each other?

Wow, great quote Five Finger. Too much of a kwinky-dink here perhaps? Sorta like the WOW..."not by commandment"... These guys back in Navuoo- I bet close to 90 percent of them chewed tobacco, or smoked- or both. It was dirt cheap, tobacco was, and besides upsetting Emma for spitting all over hell an...
by Gatorbait
Wed Aug 01, 2018 1:51 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: When are they going to let Mormons drink coffee in front of each other?
Replies: 20
Views: 1293

When are they going to let Mormons drink coffee in front of each other?

Okay, I know, you sick of hearing about this, I'm sick of it myself- but I had a serious tiff with one of my brothers about the coffee issue and it went something like this: My brother is heating up water to make some Postum. Postum? Yes, they are making it again- anyway he is cursing the micro-wave...
by Gatorbait
Wed Aug 01, 2018 11:30 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Facts about Con artists
Replies: 4
Views: 500

Re: Facts about Con artists

This is an interesting topic I think, and we have discussed Jos. Smith's psychopathic behavior before. He fits the mold so well that it leaves little doubt that he was a liar, cheat and thief....but also a very clever one. Some of us have fallen prey to someone who has come into our lives, a get-ric...
by Gatorbait
Wed Jul 25, 2018 3:06 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Prosperity Gospel Condemned by Vatican
Replies: 21
Views: 1380

Re: Prosperity Gospel Condemned by Vatican

Wow, I enjoyed that article. My respect for Pope Francis continues to grow. Never thought I'd say that the Catholic Church is leading the charge to get Christ back into Christianity. The LDS church, on the other hand, has turned into a pitiful glory grab. I know a kind gentleman who was a mission pr...
by Gatorbait
Wed Jul 25, 2018 3:03 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Prosperity Gospel Condemned by Vatican
Replies: 21
Views: 1380

Re: Prosperity Gospel Condemned by Vatican

Wow, I enjoyed that article. My respect for Pope Francis continues to grow. Never thought I'd say that the Catholic Church is leading the charge to get Christ back into Christianity. The LDS church, on the other hand, has turned into a pitiful glory grab. I know a kind gentleman who was a mission pr...
by Gatorbait
Mon Jul 09, 2018 1:44 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Appologetic quandry of the warrior gene
Replies: 7
Views: 543

Re: Appologetic quandry of the warrior gene

Wow, a really thought provoking post. It brings to mind the theory heard many times as I was growing up, that some of the Alpha males or females, in the Church-the leaders- were "warriors" in the pre-mortal existence- Generals, not mere Captains in the war in heaven. Say, how did they fight that war...
by Gatorbait
Mon Jul 02, 2018 2:50 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Apologists and why I don't care about them anymore
Replies: 16
Views: 1068

Apologists and why I don't care about them anymore

A couple of years ago, I locked horns with Dan Peterson, who is a well known scholar- at least to some- in the LDS Church. My discussion with him stemmed around my not giving any credence to what Jos. Smith's mom Lucy had to say in her book, about the episode regarding Jos. Smith's leg, when he was ...
by Gatorbait
Fri Jun 01, 2018 11:31 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: The brethren's lack of faith
Replies: 12
Views: 914

Re: The brethren's lack of faith

It is as we have said all along- "pay at that window". They masquerade with the "preparedness" guise, but what they really want is money. Give me your money....God will bless you. Pay to play. We don't care how much faith you have folks- you don't get to go into that building over there unless you p...
by Gatorbait
Fri Jun 01, 2018 11:24 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: New Dan Peterson article mocking those who question the First Vision accounts... pure insanity.
Replies: 13
Views: 1028

Re: New Dan Peterson article mocking those who question the First Vision accounts... pure insanity.

Dan Peterson. He is the poster boy for: 1. Say that you believe in something and figure out how to con someone into believing it. "It is easier to fool someone than than convince them that they have been fooled". (Mark Twain) 2. Bully someone into either believing as he does or dismiss them without ...
by Gatorbait
Tue May 29, 2018 3:04 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Bigfoot the Nephite
Replies: 6
Views: 484

Re: Bigfoot the Nephite

No, I'm not going to wade into the murky Bigfoot waters with you Brent, because I think that if there was such a thing as Bigfoot, some redneck would hunt it down, shoot it, and strap it onto the hood of his pickup truck. But you did a damn fine job of writing this thread noble mon. Takin' my hat of...
by Gatorbait
Tue May 29, 2018 1:27 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Using truthful facts to deceive
Replies: 5
Views: 544

Re: Using truthful facts to deceive

Interesting word alright- paltering....hmm Words. Remember "Class Clown" by George Carlin? The seven words that you can't say on TV- it came out in the 70's when George Carlin was just getting his momentum of being one of the most original comics of his generation. I'm chuckling to myself as I write...
by Gatorbait
Mon May 28, 2018 1:07 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: On being left out.
Replies: 4
Views: 440

On being left out.

We've bounced around many times, like a beach ball at the beach, the idea that the true and only one and one and only church that is the very one that is true and the onlyest one that is true- that church- ought to be turning out kinder, more loving, accepting, gentle, swell and so on and so forth- ...
by Gatorbait
Thu May 17, 2018 7:22 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Who is the Holy Ghost? It's me!
Replies: 21
Views: 1578

Re: Who is the Holy Ghost? It's me!

Good comments on an interesting difficult topic. I'm agreeing with a lot of stuff I'm reading here. The HG has been this enigma that I've never been satisfied with an answer on from anyone- ever. I put it right up with Mary the Mother of Jesus- who in the world gets pregnant when you are engaged- an...
by Gatorbait
Thu May 10, 2018 2:14 pm
Forum: The Coffee Shop
Topic: Scouting is dead
Replies: 11
Views: 936

Re: Scouting is dead

Never was much of a scouter and I hated like hell when some bozo- my brother included- made their kids get their Eagle badge before they could get their driver's license. Say what you want- the LDS Church is way more organized than the Scouts and will be just fine without them. No more begging for m...
by Gatorbait
Thu May 10, 2018 2:12 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Who woulda thought?
Replies: 8
Views: 717

Re: Who woulda thought?

Brings back memories of about six or so years ago....Kalikala, most of us have felt what you are feeling now. How'd I get sucked into this cuss? The thing is, truth is independent of itself, and we all know that. When an organization has to blast it's "I know the church is true" horn every month and...
by Gatorbait
Sun May 06, 2018 9:10 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Difference between a NOM and an Exmo
Replies: 14
Views: 903

Re: Difference between a NOM and an Exmo

Good points made and I've not much to add apart from the few examples that I've seen. 1. Not an ex-mo if you still worry if people in your ward ask you why you don't attend meetings anymore. Ex-mos just don't give a cuss and tell them so. 2. Ex-mos are okay with saying, "I'm not religious", and mean...