Interesting. Christians actually acting like Christians. Good for them. Apart from having a strange name, I'd never given them much thought.
Question- are they the ones we should thank for this brother and sister business that Mormons have embraced and which there seems to be no end to?
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- Sat Sep 09, 2023 1:08 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: "We are belligerents defending good." Boyd Packer
- Replies: 6
- Views: 13752
Re: "We are belligerents defending good." Boyd Packer
Interesting post, thanks. I'd not seen the BKP quote. Interesting choice of word using "belligerent", as it is usually used in a negative context, so I'd say it's spot on for ol' Boyd K, as he was as stubborn, set in his ways, and narrow-minded as any leader in the church. Your last line, first ...
- Fri Sep 01, 2023 4:54 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Re-thinking re-dedicating floor for church lawyers
- Replies: 4
- Views: 14664
Re-thinking re-dedicating floor for church lawyers
Quite a few years ago, a construction firm that I was working for at the time was involved in remodeling the church lawyers digs, which at the time was Kirton McConkie Poelman, and this was before ol' Poelman, who was a stake pres at the time, got caught with his pants down with a male prostitute ...
- Thu Aug 31, 2023 3:28 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Bednar dedication of the Smith home
- Replies: 6
- Views: 13948
Re: Bednar dedication of the Smith home
Difficult not to be cynical about this sort of thing, so it's best not to try...your comments put a smile on my face for sure. Too bad that keeping the commandments didn't transform into Joseph and Emma's fam staying faithful TBMs that crossed the plains and did all sorts of swell things to build up ...
- Mon Aug 28, 2023 4:17 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: LDS approach to history.
- Replies: 5
- Views: 16444
Re: LDS approach to history.
It has been my experience that true believers in Mormonism have little desire to delve into church history unless it is something that they feel will not be a conflict with the "true" church that they belong to. They have no trouble believing that Lucy Smith, Joseph's mother, who said her son a ...
- Mon Aug 28, 2023 3:55 pm
- Forum: Support
- Topic: Separated vs Divorced
- Replies: 6
- Views: 9848
Re: Separated vs Divorced
Interesting post Meilingke. You raise an interesting question. Around here in Eastern Idaho though, as divorces are quite easy to get, couples usually go ahead with the divorce and start over. If it is a contested divorce, that's a different matter, but in the end, I don't think people get too hung ...
- Sat Aug 19, 2023 1:27 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: A Reasonable God?
- Replies: 19
- Views: 54593
Re: A Reasonable God?
Reasonable god? Nah. "Offended" with nicknames? As mentioned earlier- nope- Another lie from the church. The names Mormon and LDS got tangled in too many internet and legal webs, so the higher ups had to make up a lie to justify spending a gazillion dollars, changing Mormon LDS this and that. All B ...
- Wed Aug 16, 2023 4:02 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Returning Missionary Procedures
- Replies: 28
- Views: 25304
Re: Returning Missionary Procedures
Interesting post, this. I've re-read most of your posts again and enjoyed them. Some of us who went on full-time missions when we were youngsters had a rewarding experience, I know I did. Was it fun? Not at all; but I met some fine people and learned a bit about getting out of myself and my own ego ...
- Wed Aug 16, 2023 3:35 pm
- Forum: Support
- Topic: Lying prophets & other leaders
- Replies: 6
- Views: 8132
Re: Lying prophets & other leaders
Got to chuckle about this. There's a reason that Utah and southeast Idaho are the con capitals of America for get rich and every other scheme. People are brought up to trust people and that's especially true for your beloved church leaders. All one has to do is pray, and by-golly and by-gum, the ...
- Tue Aug 15, 2023 2:07 pm
- Forum: Introductions
- Topic: Hello everyone!
- Replies: 3
- Views: 47467
Re: Hello everyone!
My warmest welcome. Anxious to hear your story.
- Tue Aug 15, 2023 2:03 pm
- Forum: Mixed Faith Relationships
- Topic: How do you get your spouse to see that people can still be good after leaving the church?
- Replies: 38
- Views: 426177
Re: How do you get your spouse to see that people can still be good after leaving the church?
I like this post, liked reading all of your posts as well. One of these days the church will wake up, realize that coffee's not like snorting coke off a Las Vegas whore's hind end (liked that one) and is harmless. As one who's pulled a cork or two over the years, not to access, and drank plenty of ...
- Tue Aug 15, 2023 1:40 pm
- Forum: Mixed Faith Relationships
- Topic: Not renewing my temple recommend
- Replies: 6
- Views: 30623
Re: Not renewing my temple recommend
Integrity. That's the word you used to come to your decision to not renew a thing that holds you in contempt of your own conscience. Your choice is to be honest with yourself, true to the one thing that only you have. Years ago I heard a Janis Joplin quote: "Don't compromise yourself. You're all you ...
- Wed Aug 09, 2023 8:13 am
- Forum: Support
- Topic: Eckhart Tolle describing NOMs
- Replies: 16
- Views: 13394
Re: Eckhart Tolle describing NOMs
Great quote. Thank you. We see this ego driven "we are right" attitude in our church no doubt about that, but unfortunately, we seem to it in many places as well, other churches, I remember a Bill Burr bit how he had thought growing up that the church he belonged to was the true and right one and ...
- Mon Aug 07, 2023 1:37 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: The usefulness of prophets
- Replies: 12
- Views: 14760
Re: The usefulness of prophets
Listened to Oak's talk, which I liked. Too often people want to be told what to do so that when they do it they feel that they are gaining ground on a reward somehow. The most- very most poignant thing Jos. Smith ever taught, in my opinion, was to teach correct principles and let the people govern ...
- Mon Aug 07, 2023 12:33 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Will race and ethnicity follow us into the afterlife?
- Replies: 7
- Views: 10300
Re: Will race and ethnicity follow us into the afterlife?
What a great topic. Thank you Red Ryder. Had a Navajo foster sister who was one of the last group with the church sponsored Indian Placement Program. I've kept close to her throughout these almost 45 years. She was and is a deep thinker and I'd consider her one who would be a reliable sound source ...
- Mon Jul 31, 2023 4:12 pm
- Forum: Support
- Topic: Past Stance Against Christianity
- Replies: 10
- Views: 10312
Re: Past Stance Against Christianity
Wow, what an interesting and meaningful post. I'm going to give this some serious thought and spend some time researching this topic. BH Roberts has always seemed to be an enigma. Sort of like Eugene England. Exposed enough of Mormonism's warts and dirty parts to make me wonder why they still ...
- Mon Jul 31, 2023 4:07 pm
- Forum: Support
- Topic: Is Mormonism Your Motherland?
- Replies: 13
- Views: 12390
Re: Is Mormonism Your Motherland?
Mormon church was and is no motherland to me. Grew up, as I've mentioned before, not believing in a god, as I could not rap my mind around it. Still can't; sorry. I still try. I pray from time to time. But it has always been hard for me to be a believer. That does not mean I don't believe in some ...
- Tue Jul 25, 2023 7:02 am
- Forum: Support
- Topic: Doing Good
- Replies: 10
- Views: 11705
Re: Doing Good
To me, it is easiest to do good or pay it forward if there is no eternal reward attached. The list of "blessings" that come from the stuff that I got spoon fed to me when I was a kid, like going to church, paying tithing, later on going to the temple, all that happy horse sh*t. Nowadays, those ...
- Tue Jul 25, 2023 6:42 am
- Forum: Support
- Topic: Hate vs. Indifference
- Replies: 14
- Views: 10434
Re: Hate vs. Indifference
Feeling a bit weary today, looking back at what I wrote now seems a bit like whining, and that was not my purpose. The thing is, I was sorely disappointed with the treatment from an small west Idaho ward far removed from Utah. In Utah, I would have not been surprised. There, the things that Angel ...
- Fri Jul 21, 2023 5:23 am
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: The Cost of a Janitor
- Replies: 28
- Views: 24225
Re: The Cost of a Janitor
First of all, I think there are way too many meeting houses. In my travels to Utah especially, it is a ridiculous waste of resources. That said, I think that the church ought to hire people to clean the churches, at least the large ones. Many times I've gone to clean the church and have not minded ...