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by Gatorbait
Tue May 01, 2018 3:43 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: "Guess who's coming to dinner."
Replies: 11
Views: 920

Re: "Guess who's coming to dinner."

Goofed up on the title and fixed it. Took me a while to figure out how...(sigh) Figured someone would catch it and correct it quicker than ol' Bednar can whip out a comb and a mirror and a can of hair spray. You did alright. What the hell, I'm an idiot. We all seek the truth, but the truth is indepe...
by Gatorbait
Tue May 01, 2018 5:41 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: "Guess who's coming to dinner."
Replies: 11
Views: 920

"Guess who's coming to dinner."

Although I'm an oldster now, I'm not so old that I've forgotten my younger years and a few things that shaped my thinking along the way. In 1967, when I was a mere lad of eleven, a movie came out with a cast of actors who were arguably the best at the trade at the time, Spencer Tracy, Katharine Hepb...
by Gatorbait
Thu Apr 26, 2018 12:29 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: A philosophical look at God
Replies: 10
Views: 738

Re: A philosophical look at God

First of all, it is interesting to me that when someone comes up idea or personage of God, they seem to immediately discredit anyone else's concept of God. Yesterday I saw, as many of you have probably seen as well, an image of a few grains of salt as seen through an electron microscope. Look it up,...
by Gatorbait
Mon Mar 19, 2018 8:30 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: No more resignations??
Replies: 21
Views: 1332

Re: No more resignations??

For me, I don't much see the point of resigning. Nothing to be gained from it that I can see apart from the home teachers don't come a knockin' the last day of the month. I like Bill Burr's analogy/metaphor (why in the hell does metaphor end in ph?) which is the game of curling at the winter Olympic...
by Gatorbait
Fri Mar 16, 2018 7:14 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: "If God wanted us to believe in him...he'd exist."
Replies: 10
Views: 676

Re: "If God wanted us to believe in him...he'd exist."

The morning light is filling the valley where I live with the hope of a new day full of peacefulness. Sometimes I marvel at how lucky all of us are to be able to have the freedom of speaking or writing our thoughts on a place such as this. Some of your incites on this topic help to humble me. I see ...
by Gatorbait
Wed Mar 14, 2018 11:18 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: "If God wanted us to believe in him...he'd exist."
Replies: 10
Views: 676

"If God wanted us to believe in him...he'd exist."

Either the hair on the back of your neck is sticking up because you think I've crossed the line, or you are smiling, or both. Or neither. Maybe a wrinkled brow. This "If God wanted...." quote is one that's been around a while and I saw it again yesterday, smiled and thought to myself, yeah, that's a...
by Gatorbait
Fri Jan 12, 2018 9:32 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: President Monson's Passing
Replies: 36
Views: 2145

Re: President Monson's Passing

We've sort of had some fun with this one....mostly at the expense of those of you who liked the guy. Sorry about that. No offence, but we are trying to be honest here on this sight. If nothing else, we say what we really think. Good or bad- it's at least the truth. The thing is, Monson was unique, a...
by Gatorbait
Thu Jan 11, 2018 4:41 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Cringe Worthy Degrees of TBM Piousness
Replies: 21
Views: 1477

Re: Cringe Worthy Degrees of TBM Piousness

Can't leave this one alone- but for a different reason then some of the earlier posts. It's weird how humans want to gather into groups- not just Mormons- but in everything. Think about it- blacks. We have the guy doing the evening news, and he's polished and smart and we love him right? Wrrrong. He...
by Gatorbait
Wed Jan 10, 2018 3:26 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Stats on members leaving?
Replies: 36
Views: 2572

Re: Stats on members leaving?

Although I've not much to do with the church, apart from going to an occasional baby blessing or the like, I see no need to officially resign. What's the point? There's nothing that can come of it that serves any purpose says I. As my dear departed Dad used to say "It's all bull s***". I agree. Anyt...
by Gatorbait
Wed Jan 10, 2018 10:53 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Mormon Funerals (not the TSM one)
Replies: 20
Views: 962

Re: Mormon Funerals (not the TSM one)

Thought provoking post, and one I enjoyed. Thank you RH. Funerals are difficult in the LDS culture because the attendees claim they "know" that the deceased is now in a better place. (sigh) The big event funeral for Monson was advertised on TV last night. On TV mind you. This smacks of everything Je...
by Gatorbait
Tue Jan 09, 2018 5:10 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Bart Erhman
Replies: 18
Views: 1204

Re: Bart Erhman

Bart Erhman....the beginning of the end of my belief in Christianity started when I read, twice, the book " Misquoting Jesus". It was about ten years ago. Shattered my belief in the bible. The question then remained- if the bible was phony, how about the rest of religion. I read a bunch of C.S. Lewi...
by Gatorbait
Tue Jan 09, 2018 10:36 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: President Monson's Passing
Replies: 36
Views: 2145

Re: President Monson's Passing

With all due respect to those who liked Monson, I will say this: I did not. Reasons: 1. His sing-song voice drove me batty. 2. He told stories that I thought were embellished. One I know was because I knew the circumstances and he got it wrong. 3. He led the charge to "Let's go shopping" at the mall...
by Gatorbait
Sun Nov 19, 2017 6:16 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Sealing Cancellation
Replies: 18
Views: 1299

Re: Sealing Cancellation

Whoa, this is some scary stuff folks. The term “You can be right, or you can be happy” really applies here. Your friend shows a lot of maturity but it is difficult to imagine how it would be to live with someone so steeped in what they “know” is right for her nine children. A forty five minute conve...
by Gatorbait
Fri Nov 10, 2017 1:49 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: What about the Bible?
Replies: 9
Views: 596

What about the Bible?

Couple years ago- maybe more- the LDS church (I refuse to call them "The Church" any more) tried a PR move to show that they were swell folks and were not a bunch of snobs that favored a particular type of underwear and refused to drink coffee or admit that it's not bad for you. Anyway, I ramble at ...
by Gatorbait
Tue Nov 07, 2017 2:21 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: What I learned from David Bednar
Replies: 25
Views: 1797

Re: What I learned from David Bednar

Bednar's never been one of my faves and it stems around one thing and one only. At a question and answer session he opened the meeting up with, "I'll try my best to answer the questions, but sometimes it will be 'I don't know'. That said, I won't even try to answer questions like, 'where is the swor...
by Gatorbait
Sun Nov 05, 2017 7:35 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: We are all enlisted
Replies: 8
Views: 821

Re: We are all enlisted

There’s what, over forty thousand religions in the world? Something like that, they are like diseases- they exist, but we don’t know what they all are, where they all are, or how they came to be in the first place- let alone the cure. Really- where did all these diseases come from. God? The devil? N...
by Gatorbait
Wed Nov 01, 2017 2:46 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: The Biggest Damage done...
Replies: 2
Views: 425

Re: The Biggest Damage done...

Wow, you have been through a lot noble one. I see you have a lot of courage, which is good. Never had any use for Pres. Kimball's book. It is just a story- his story- but that does not make it true. Same with Bednar, and frankly the same with anyone. We each have a story to tell, and if it is true, ...
by Gatorbait
Mon Oct 23, 2017 6:38 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Indian Placement Program - New Perpectives
Replies: 5
Views: 649

Re: Indian Placement Program - New Perpectives

First of all, I think that the Indian Placement Program was born of good intentions. President Kimball was doing his best to do what the Book of Mormon asked him and the LDS church to do. When President Kimball died, so died the Indian/Lamanite programs. The reason? Return on investment. The Indians...
by Gatorbait
Fri Oct 20, 2017 5:51 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: The token gay guy
Replies: 8
Views: 749

Re: The token gay guy

Like some of the rest of you, when I heard about Tom Cristofferson, and heard his story I had a deep respect for him. Seemed like a genuine nice guy and I was happy that he had found his middle ground and happiness in being gay and accepting it. At the time I first heard of him, though I'm not certa...
by Gatorbait
Sun Oct 15, 2017 6:44 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Do you believe in God?
Replies: 17
Views: 1143

Do you believe in God?

As a youngster, growing up in a time when the Second World War was fresh on the minds of my parents, both of whom served in the military during the war and saw awful things, I often heard this line, "There are no atheists in fox holes". Of course I knew what fox holes this was pertaining to, those t...