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by Gatorbait
Sun Jul 16, 2023 2:54 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Hate vs. Indifference
Replies: 14
Views: 10440

Hate vs. Indifference

Most of us are familiar with the Elie Wiesel quote, "The opposite of love is not hate, the opposite of love is indifference." Went to Sac mtg and SS today with our TBM son and his wife and family. Small ward in western Idaho. I didn't want to go but since my son was teaching Gospel Doctrine he asked ...
by Gatorbait
Fri Jul 14, 2023 2:54 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Feelin the feels.
Replies: 18
Views: 16575

Re: Feelin the feels.

Great topic. I agree with you Angel. I also feel a connection. The tap on the shoulder, the tug. Something's there, at least I think so.
by Gatorbait
Fri Jul 14, 2023 2:45 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: FAIR's how-to-study guide
Replies: 12
Views: 5522

Re: FAIR's how-to-study guide

Just re-read your posts, mostly because, believe it or not, I don't remember having heard of the Letter to My Wife. I read it now, and it is a lot like the CES letter, so not much new there. Not much there to bring the blood close to boilage. Those days are past. This paragraph that angel wrote is ...
by Gatorbait
Fri Jul 14, 2023 2:34 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Slowly fading away? The future of NOM?
Replies: 54
Views: 57417

Re: Slowly fading away? The future of NOM?

Like many have said before me, this is the site that "feels like home". We've sort of gone through a lot of the same feelings about ten years ago when we started finding out that much of what we learned on our mother's knees were lies. At first I looked at a lot of web sites and learned a bit from ...
by Gatorbait
Fri Jul 07, 2023 12:33 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: FAIR's how-to-study guide
Replies: 12
Views: 5522

Re: FAIR's how-to-study guide

Good responses, but I'm pretty sure the gloomy part for me when I started uncovering lies from the church was the same as other times I got suckered into a bad deal, or lied to by someone you trusted who stole your money. The real gloom for me was knowing I got conned. The hair on the back of your ...
by Gatorbait
Fri Jul 07, 2023 12:24 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: We do not feel that we’re obligated to fill in that box.
Replies: 11
Views: 3215

Re: We do not feel that we’re obligated to fill in that box.

Interesting. Heard about the article or one like it. Is that the same article that mentioned the reason the church didn't fill in the box honestly and accurately was because they feared church members would stop paying tithing?
by Gatorbait
Fri Jul 07, 2023 12:17 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Decline of Mormonism in USA
Replies: 7
Views: 3100

Re: Decline of Mormonism in USA

Interesting post for sure and comments I've enjoyed reading. Where we live, in southeast Idaho, there's plenty of Mormons to go around and to spare but unfortunately, it seems like the sickening self righteous ones are the ones moving in, but not around my place in the boonies thankfully. Our ...
by Gatorbait
Fri Jul 07, 2023 11:42 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: The Ultimate Conspiracy Theory?
Replies: 13
Views: 9225

Re: The Ultimate Conspiracy Theory?

Two things: 1- Can you prove that Hillary doesn't sacrifice babies to Satan and eat their brains? No? Must be true. 2- I saw Satan moving upon the face of the waters. No canoes for me! But seriously, Don't know what it was, but it was something. There is no doubt that really weird, scary ...
by Gatorbait
Fri Jul 07, 2023 11:38 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: So, why did Jesus have to die?
Replies: 23
Views: 13618

Re: So, why did Jesus have to die?

The idea of Jesus being sent from God the Father to be sacrificed has never really set well with me or made any sense. How this concept ever got woven into Mormonism is beyond me. I think it hitched a ride on the Protestantism that Mormonism grew out of. St. Augustine kind of solidified the ...
by Gatorbait
Wed Jul 05, 2023 10:22 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: The Ultimate Conspiracy Theory?
Replies: 13
Views: 9225

Re: The Ultimate Conspiracy Theory?

What's the Twain saying? The truth doesn't stand a chance against someone determined to believe a lie. So, are all the devil stories just story tellers' morbid and sickening way of scaring people into bowing down to "the one true God"? Are they all made up? Just build on the next lie and then the ...
by Gatorbait
Mon Jul 03, 2023 12:06 pm
Forum: The Coffee Shop
Topic: What if the seer stone spelt worse than joseph
Replies: 5
Views: 13467

Re: What if the seer stone spelt worse than joseph

This is really a good one and original. Can't speak for the rest of you but I'd never heard of the seer stones until I was well into adulthood. Once I heard about them I busied myself to find out all I could about them. As many of you I said asked myself how this could be. Bring up the stones to a ...
by Gatorbait
Mon Jul 03, 2023 11:57 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Book of Mormon reaction
Replies: 14
Views: 7561

Re: Book of Mormon reaction

......... the only words she could get out, over and over again, were, "and you guys BELIEVED this?!" Yes. Yes we did. Just goes to show what can happen when kids are made subject to "the (incorrect) traditions of their fathers...." "Didn't any of you guys think to fact check this stuff?????" :roll ...
by Gatorbait
Mon Jul 03, 2023 11:49 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: So, why did Jesus have to die?
Replies: 23
Views: 13618

Re: So, why did Jesus have to die?

Interesting perspective by many of you. Many thanks. The idea of Jesus being sent from God the Father to be sacrificed has never really set well with me or made any sense. How this concept ever got woven into Mormonism is beyond me. Sort of why I wanted your views and enjoyed very much reading and ...
by Gatorbait
Sun Jun 25, 2023 8:05 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: So, why did Jesus have to die?
Replies: 23
Views: 13618

So, why did Jesus have to die?

Some of the more uninteresting lessons, I've found, are about the atonement. Never understood that one. My list of things I don't get about it are these: 1. Why did Jesus have to die if the atonement was made while he was still alive? 2. What's this business about great drops of blood oozing out of ...
by Gatorbait
Sun Jun 25, 2023 7:44 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: New marketing manual from dear leader
Replies: 12
Views: 12264

Re: New marketing manual from dear leader

Great. I wonder whether they'll abandon reading general conference talks one paragraph at a time so they can read the new preach my gospel one paragraph at a time during EQ and RS next year. Because people are leaving and they're leaving because they don't know the basics... the same basics that ...
by Gatorbait
Mon Jun 19, 2023 11:53 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Just because I _____, doesn’t mean I _____.
Replies: 10
Views: 2645

Re: Just because I _____, doesn’t mean I _____.

Just because my choice of sins are different than yours, it doesn't mean that you have the right to pass judgement on me.
by Gatorbait
Wed Jun 14, 2023 3:56 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Reasons to resign
Replies: 17
Views: 12210

Re: Reasons to resign

Too much mormon stain on me and it's never going to wash out so why try. Not worth the effort. I'm known for not caring what other people think of me, but I do care. I do. No one wants people to think that they are an a**hole. Not really. It's unique for all of us, sorry if I hit a nerve. The other ...
by Gatorbait
Fri Jun 09, 2023 2:58 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Pride works both ways.
Replies: 13
Views: 4598

Re: Pride works both ways.

moksha wrote: Mon Mar 20, 2023 8:04 pm The reason Socrates was the wisest person in Athens was that he realized how little he knew, and was willing to ask questions to seek answers. He questioned the answers to understand all the ins and out of how the answer was formulated.
Too right. Thanks for the reminder noble mon.
by Gatorbait
Fri Jun 09, 2023 2:55 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: NeverMo friend and eternal families
Replies: 4
Views: 1418

Re: NeverMo friend and eternal families

Interesting post. When the church- any church- destroys families, then it is going against every teaching of Christ himself. It's interesting how people think that their own sweet little fams are going to be gathered around mother's knee and all things will be lovely some time. Yet, that make no ...
by Gatorbait
Fri Jun 09, 2023 2:43 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Support Opportunity for Arizona NOMs
Replies: 3
Views: 1167

Re: Support Opportunity for Arizona NOMs

Yikes, this is terrible. I must say that the second paragraph says it all. If this church is really a Christ centered church, then this sort of thing would never ever happen. Christ was sent to the sinners, and if this lady thinks her husband is sinning, she should be working over time to show him ...