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- Sun Mar 04, 2018 5:55 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Mysteries in the Book of Mormon?
- Replies: 32
- Views: 23781
Re: Mysteries in the Book of Mormon?
I always figured Nephi or Nephite was always a play on Nephilim from Genesis 6:4. He might have gotten it from John Walker's pronunciation guide (as well as possibly many others): http://blog.mrm.org/2014/07/john-walkers-key-opens-book-of-mormon-names/ That would explain the curious Latin pronuncia...
- Sun Mar 04, 2018 2:14 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Critique of worthiness interviews
- Replies: 9
- Views: 5897
Re: Critique of worthiness interviews
Great article! Recently I’ve been thinking a lot about worthiness interviews and their origin. Mithryn made a great blog post about this with a timeline (and links to sources if you're so inclined): https://exploringmormonism.com/bishops-interview-timeline/ I find it most interesting that 1) they s...
- Sun Mar 04, 2018 11:45 am
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Mysteries in the Book of Mormon?
- Replies: 32
- Views: 23781
Re: Mysteries in the Book of Mormon?
Having read the blog article, I think Volluz is making this into more than what it really is. I think, as Joseph is want to do, he has just taken the word "gaze" and played with it to make it seem exotic. Scrying or stone gazing being his forte, it seems like a small leap. The coincidental link with...
- Sat Mar 03, 2018 11:04 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Mormons don't believe in Jesus
- Replies: 55
- Views: 43429
Re: Mormons don't believe in Jesus
Even though Jeffery is more compassionate than some, he still gets it wrong in some important ways. Being "changed" into a new person doesn't begin AFTER "repentance is complete". It begins the moment we begin to place our faith in Christ and ask for forgiveness. We begin to enter the healing proces...
- Sat Mar 03, 2018 9:59 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Mysteries in the Book of Mormon?
- Replies: 32
- Views: 23781
Re: Mysteries in the Book of Mormon?
Welcome! Your story sounds very familiar. ;) I'm trying to remember a BofM phrase that comes almost verbatim from A View to the Hebrews . Anyway, when I mentioned this phrasing to an apologist on another website, he informed me that the phrase was even closer to Joseph than even I had thought and co...
- Fri Mar 02, 2018 5:37 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Morality?
- Replies: 17
- Views: 10787
Re: Morality?
Before making comment, can you give me a specific reference from the BoM?
- Fri Mar 02, 2018 9:29 am
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Mormons don't believe in Jesus
- Replies: 55
- Views: 43429
Re: Mormons don't believe in Jesus
While doing a little research on this thread, I came across this article on lds.org. from the New Era. To me it shows just how deep set the hooks are for young people and adults regarding purported priesthood authority. Here's an excerpt: "Some mistakes, especially those regarding immorality, requir...
- Thu Mar 01, 2018 11:00 am
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Mormons don't believe in Jesus
- Replies: 55
- Views: 43429
Re: Mormons don't believe in Jesus
I don't think your experience disproves or diminishes the experiences of others, as recounted in many of the stories Sam has collected. I agree. My intent in posting the anecdote was to show that un-informed, ignorant or rogue leaders do exist out there and will do stupid sh!t. Obviously the church...
- Wed Feb 28, 2018 12:40 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Mormons don't believe in Jesus
- Replies: 55
- Views: 43429
Re: Mormons don't believe in Jesus
Some of the examples I've found the most compelling as I've presented this previously were the ones that alas pointed out, the way that girls are taught about virtue. They are taught that virtue almost solely equates with sexual virginity. The object lessons of the nail in the board, the chewed gum...
- Tue Feb 27, 2018 8:45 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Mormons don't believe in Jesus
- Replies: 55
- Views: 43429
Re: Mormons don't believe in Jesus
There is scriptural support for the original Apostles having authority to designate a repentant individual. John 20: 22-23 "22And when he had said this, he breathed on them, and saith unto them, Receive ye the Holy Ghost: 23Whose soever sins ye remit, they are remitted unto them; and whose soever s...
- Tue Feb 27, 2018 9:25 am
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Critique of worthiness interviews
- Replies: 9
- Views: 5897
Re: Critique of worthiness interviews
Well written and thought out article. I've been saying for a long time now that the worthiness interview is a sham. It's impossible for one individual to truly ascertain or "measure" another individuals worthiness. That is something only God can do. When I was in the Bishopric there were numerous ti...
- Mon Feb 26, 2018 11:01 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Mormons don't believe in Jesus
- Replies: 55
- Views: 43429
Re: Mormons don't believe in Jesus
Let it be said in emphasis that even the First Presidency and the Apostles do not make a practice of absolving sins. They waive penalties in the course of their ministrations. Thus the forgiveness or waiver of penalty is not something to be taken idly or thoughtlessly and is not to be given for a m...
- Mon Feb 26, 2018 9:18 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Scriptures I hate and why
- Replies: 19
- Views: 9325
Re: Scriptures I hate and why
Harold B. Lee spoke to my missionary group when we went through the temple for the first time. He was severely serious. He asked if we had any questions. As each question was started he would begin turning to the answer from the scriptures which were in the form of a giant quad on the lecturn in fr...
- Mon Feb 26, 2018 6:48 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Mormons don't believe in Jesus
- Replies: 55
- Views: 43429
Re: Mormons don't believe in Jesus
Don't know if this idea will have any effect on the conversation here but it was my understanding that institutional "forgiveness" from the church was quite different from forgiveness proffered from the Lord. The Lord can forgive us immediately but the authorities of the church have to wade through...
- Mon Feb 26, 2018 12:40 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Scriptures I hate and why
- Replies: 19
- Views: 9325
Re: Scriptures I hate and why
Harold B. Lee spoke to my missionary group when we went through the temple for the first time. He was severely serious. He asked if we had any questions. As each question was started he would begin turning to the answer from the scriptures which were in the form of a giant quad on the lecturn in fr...
- Mon Feb 26, 2018 12:30 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Mormons don't believe in Jesus
- Replies: 55
- Views: 43429
Re: Mormons don't believe in Jesus
Don't know if this idea will have any effect on the conversation here but it was my understanding that institutional "forgiveness" from the church was quite different from forgiveness proffered from the Lord. The Lord can forgive us immediately but the authorities of the church have to wade through ...
- Sun Feb 25, 2018 11:09 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Scriptures I hate and why
- Replies: 19
- Views: 9325
Re: Scriptures I hate and why
Harold B. Lee spoke to my missionary group when we went through the temple for the first time. He was severely serious. He asked if we had any questions. As each question was started he would begin turning to the answer from the scriptures which were in the form of a giant quad on the lecturn in fro...
- Sat Feb 24, 2018 10:47 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Member made doctrines
- Replies: 40
- Views: 31565
Re: Member made doctrines
1922 – During Conference, Heber J. Grant stated, “I am not going to give any command, but I will ask it as a personal, individual favor to me, to let coca-cola alone. There are plenty of other things you can get at the soda fountains without drinking that which is injurious. The Lord does not want ...
- Sat Feb 24, 2018 10:06 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Scriptures I hate and why
- Replies: 19
- Views: 9325
Re: Scriptures I hate and why
Anyone, if they are introspective and/or hard on themselves, could fall into the "Trap of Insufficient Faith." And they would be extra susceptible to Gaslighting. Imagine if speakers started getting up in meetings and saying, "The Brethren's lack of faith is holding back the growth of the Church" o...
- Sat Feb 24, 2018 3:08 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Scriptures I hate and why
- Replies: 19
- Views: 9325
Re: Scriptures I hate and why
These "scriptures" and others that Joseph cooked up are just false doctrine. No doubt about that. That's why they create disharmony within the individual.
I really like contrasting 1 Nephi 3:7 with D&C 124:49.
Total revelation of convenience.
I really like contrasting 1 Nephi 3:7 with D&C 124:49.
Total revelation of convenience.