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by Linked
Thu Sep 07, 2023 3:50 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Please Sir, I Want Some More... Church
Replies: 15
Views: 7322

Re: Please Sir, I Want Some More... Church

Wanting to be good... New semester, students introding themselves, getting to know the new crowd. They want to be good at math, good at programming, good at - you name it - immersed in excercise, immersed in learning a new language, immersed in music, in cooking - dedicated to being good/talented ....
by Linked
Tue Sep 05, 2023 11:07 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Please Sir, I Want Some More... Church
Replies: 15
Views: 7322

Please Sir, I Want Some More... Church

My son asked if he can attend church more. I've posted before about the arrangement my DW and I have agreed on, attending church as a family half the time and staying home as a family half the time. I figured the kids would have an opinion at some point, and it looks like for my deacon-aged son that...
by Linked
Mon Aug 28, 2023 4:13 pm
Forum: Mixed Faith Relationships
Topic: Lying
Replies: 13
Views: 13831

Re: Lying

I 100% relate to your situation stuck. I lied to my wife about my beliefs, then she found in an email from someone else and it crushed her. I lied to my wife by not telling her that I drink coffee until she confronted me about it and it crushed her. In my mind, the idea of telling her about those t...
by Linked
Thu Aug 24, 2023 3:58 pm
Forum: Mixed Faith Relationships
Topic: Lying
Replies: 13
Views: 13831

Re: Lying

I 100% relate to your situation stuck. I lied to my wife about my beliefs, then she found in an email from someone else and it crushed her. I lied to my wife by not telling her that I drink coffee until she confronted me about it and it crushed her. In my mind, the idea of telling her about those th...
by Linked
Mon Aug 14, 2023 2:13 pm
Forum: Mixed Faith Relationships
Topic: How do you get your spouse to see that people can still be good after leaving the church?
Replies: 38
Views: 47069

Re: How do you get your spouse to see that people can still be good after leaving the church?

I baptized my son last year in similar circumstances. We let him pick who confirmed him and he chose his RM cousin. The bishop didn't ask me anything. The requirements to perform a baptism are quite low. The confirmation requires an active temple recommend I believe. I wanted to baptize him because ...
by Linked
Mon Aug 14, 2023 1:59 pm
Forum: Mixed Faith Relationships
Topic: Not renewing my temple recommend
Replies: 6
Views: 12771

Re: Not renewing my temple recommend

That sounds like a successful and mature interaction. I went through this with my DW a few years back and it was a big deal then, but it hasn't been an issue since then. It's been nice to move on from the recommend dance. She said she knows she can't force me but would really appreciate it if I coul...
by Linked
Mon Aug 14, 2023 1:47 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Returning Missionary Procedures
Replies: 28
Views: 12926

Re: Returning Missionary Procedures

I wasn't asked that in my return interview either. Maybe your SP asked it of everyone so he could call it standard? That is a weird question to ask someone who just spent 2 years giving their all to share the gospel. I'm sorry your mission was so terrible. Mine was rough too. I sometimes wonder if I...
by Linked
Mon Aug 14, 2023 12:59 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Doing Good
Replies: 10
Views: 7370

Re: Doing Good

Thank you all for your thoughts on this. Lots of good points made and examples of doing good. This place is fantastic!
by Linked
Thu Jul 20, 2023 8:50 am
Forum: Support
Topic: The Black Hole
Replies: 4
Views: 6505

Re: The Black Hole

I think a lot of those black holes lack Hawkin's radiation, so nothing escapes. Hahaha, this is the best science-nerd burn of the day, you win! Ugh. That's something I really didn't enjoy when I was in, now that I'm out it's really unappealing. I feel like it's a general Christian thing though, and...
by Linked
Tue Jul 18, 2023 5:14 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: The Black Hole
Replies: 4
Views: 6505

The Black Hole

I was chatting with my TBM dad and brother about life and it was really interesting to watch everything be immediately incorporated into their gospel worldview. They information would shift slightly and slot right into their testimony. It felt like their beliefs were a black hole with gravity so pow...
by Linked
Tue Jul 18, 2023 4:59 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Doing Good
Replies: 10
Views: 7370

Doing Good

The last 10 years or so I've spent a huge amount of time unpacking my mormon upbringing and former beliefs. It was shocking to reconsider the stories and actions of the church through a new perspective and see formerly good things as at best a waste of time and at worst actively harmful to millions....
by Linked
Tue Jul 18, 2023 4:49 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Slowly fading away? The future of NOM?
Replies: 54
Views: 15812

Re: Slowly fading away? The future of NOM?

I haven't been posting as much lately, but I still lurk and appreciate the posts and read through most of them. Posting has slowed some recently and we haven't had many new converts, but this is still the place to find thoughtful posts and discussions. I post less because I'm in a better place so I ...
by Linked
Tue Jul 18, 2023 4:39 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: New marketing manual from dear leader
Replies: 12
Views: 8435

Re: New marketing manual from dear leader

I see chapter 9 on finding people includes a new section called "Keep lines in the water." It's a extended metaphor comparing missionary work to fishing, in which a bait is deceptively attached to a fishing line with a hidden hook that's almost impossible to escape from once set and that is exceedi...
by Linked
Wed Jun 28, 2023 4:07 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: New marketing manual from dear leader
Replies: 12
Views: 8435

Re: New marketing manual from dear leader

Pages 3-50: pictures of people being really happy as they write tithing checks, walk through the temple doors, sit in meetings, gaze lovingly at the TV during general conference, and scrub the toilets. Wow, they've been doing photo ops like these for so long that I can already vividly see each one...
by Linked
Mon Jun 19, 2023 10:03 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Just because I _____, doesn’t mean I _____.
Replies: 10
Views: 1160

Re: Just because I _____, doesn’t mean I _____.

Just because I drink coffee, doesn't mean I will drink anything. Just because I don't believe in mormonism, doesn't mean I need someone to step in as a spiritual father for my children. How about the inverse? I _______, because ________. I drink coffee because it makes me feel good, is a relatively ...
by Linked
Thu Jun 01, 2023 4:28 pm
Forum: Mixed Faith Relationships
Topic: Helping DW with a sacrament meeting talk
Replies: 18
Views: 16947

Re: Helping DW with a sacrament meeting talk

accessing the power of God through covenants Wow, that is a brutal topic for a nonbeliever. To get to a non-magical thinking talk you have to pretty much ignore every part of the topic. Maybe you could pick covenants which are clearly helpful and share some stories about how to maximize the helpful...
by Linked
Tue May 23, 2023 4:55 pm
Forum: Mixed Faith Relationships
Topic: Helping DW with a sacrament meeting talk
Replies: 18
Views: 16947

Re: Helping DW with a sacrament meeting talk

This post reminded me of my kid's recent talk. My oldest son just gave his first sacrament meeting talk on Sunday. He was really anxious after he accepted the invitation to speak and he demanded that we sit down and write the talk immediately. We tweaked it together to improve flow, add jokes, make ...
by Linked
Wed May 17, 2023 12:35 pm
Forum: The Coffee Shop
Topic: Mormon Rap
Replies: 3
Views: 12115

Mormon Rap

Remember this from 1988? It was a simpler time. Half the words are banned by the church now...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99rxBcXUAs0
by Linked
Wed May 17, 2023 12:33 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Doublethink
Replies: 1
Views: 401

Doublethink

Just bumped into this definition of Doublethink from George Orwell's 1984 and it hits so close to home. This is how I lived for 30 years when I was a believer. I even read this book as a believer and was able to compartmentalize it. To know and not to know, to be conscious of complete truthfulness w...
by Linked
Tue May 09, 2023 1:36 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Reframing
Replies: 6
Views: 893

Reframing

I attend sacrament meeting with my wife and kids regularly and often find myself reacting to the services. Something in a talk or song will strike a nerve and elicit an eyeroll or comment to DW. I started writing some of these things down and found that they were just the opposite of what was said, ...