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by Grace2Daisy
Mon Sep 04, 2017 8:19 am
Forum: Support
Topic: A real Christian
Replies: 10
Views: 6226

Re: A real Christian

I've always enjoyed a quote by Stephen Fry,
“The incompetent are often blessed with an inappropriate confidence buoyed by something that feels to them like knowledge.”

“The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge.”
by Grace2Daisy
Wed Aug 30, 2017 8:06 am
Forum: Support
Topic: No longer mormons
Replies: 34
Views: 17112

Re: No longer mormons

So, there is no disciplinary council, no letters of resignation, nothing like that. We just don't consider ourselves mormon anymore. Maybe we can move on... We met with the bishop, told him we just did not believe all we have been told for decades (I later emailed him a link to each of the essays a...
by Grace2Daisy
Wed Aug 09, 2017 8:29 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: 70 ex'ed
Replies: 85
Views: 52686

Re: 70 ex'ed

My question, I would assume given he was in the 1Q of 70s, he had a Second Anointing. If he was ex'ed and had a Second Anointing. . . . big deal, his calling and election is secured, so party on!
by Grace2Daisy
Wed Aug 09, 2017 8:25 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: The LDS Church Continues to Grow - Financially
Replies: 19
Views: 12379

Re: The LDS Church Continues to Grow - Financially

What would be advantage of that arrangement? Millions of dollars could be funneled from LDS Inc.'s U.S. sources (BYU) to its wealth management company, Ensign Peak Advisors (EPA). For what purpose? Profitably trading financial instruments. So, the tithing money is moved to BYU, who then sends the m...
by Grace2Daisy
Wed Aug 09, 2017 8:22 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: The LDS Church Continues to Grow - Financially
Replies: 19
Views: 12379

Re: The LDS Church Continues to Grow - Financially

What would be advantage of that arrangement? Millions of dollars could be funneled from LDS Inc.'s U.S. sources (BYU) to its wealth management company, Ensign Peak Advisors (EPA). For what purpose? Profitably trading financial instruments. So, the tithing money is moved to BYU, who then sends the m...
by Grace2Daisy
Tue Aug 08, 2017 9:59 am
Forum: Support
Topic: The LDS Church Continues to Grow - Financially
Replies: 19
Views: 12379

Re: The LDS Church Continues to Grow - Financially

I wonder if there's an increase in these types of development and real estate purchases and if so can it be correlated with the decline in tithing revenue? As people continue to leave the church, tithing dollars and contributions continue to decline faster than converts and younger members bring in...
by Grace2Daisy
Mon Aug 07, 2017 12:19 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: The LDS Church Continues to Grow - Financially
Replies: 19
Views: 12379

The LDS Church Continues to Grow - Financially

There has been a lot of discussion and posts regarding the incredible real estate holdings of the LDS Church. It continues it's growth by buying a three-building, 500,000 square foot office complex in Dallas, TX. According to the article Raytheon Corp.'s new office campus in Richardson's $1.5 billio...
by Grace2Daisy
Sun Jul 30, 2017 8:49 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Mom's Memorial Service
Replies: 5
Views: 3067

Re: Mom's Memorial Service

My wife and I have decided we do not want services and have both written in our wills requesting cremation. We have also detailed our desire to have our ashes scattered together off the coast of Maui, Hawaii. Here is a link we have provided in our wills: http://www.hawaiiashscatterings.com/maui We k...
by Grace2Daisy
Sat Jul 29, 2017 10:30 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Question for the group about when to leave
Replies: 44
Views: 28075

Re: Question for the group about when to leave

It’s a myth that people or relationships don’t change. In fact, it’s inevitable. Relationships go through different developmental stages and situations, such as job loss, health problems, financial issues, family / religious conflict or even just becoming a "different" person that the one who was co...
by Grace2Daisy
Thu Jul 27, 2017 1:44 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: The LDS Flat Earth
Replies: 8
Views: 4655

Re: The LDS Flat Earth

Sometimes we make our beliefs a part of ourselves; we identify as our political party, religion and a million other beliefs. People don't take well to what they perceive as a personal attack and consider an attack on their core beliefs to be the same as an attack on them. This causes people to ignor...
by Grace2Daisy
Thu Jul 27, 2017 1:34 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: How would JS get a recommend?
Replies: 20
Views: 9843

Re: How would JS get a recommend?

As an FYI. . . . . I was told by a COB employee that works directly with the Q15 on specific issues (can't tell what issues or it would out him), the Q15's recommends have no expiration date. One of the many perks!
by Grace2Daisy
Thu Jul 27, 2017 1:31 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: A VERY COOL CONNECTION HERE AT NOM!!!
Replies: 39
Views: 26952

Re: A VERY COOL CONNECTION HERE AT NOM!!!

A New Name wrote:
Tue Jun 13, 2017 7:32 pm
On the old NOM board, we use to post a real photo of ourselves on our avatar for a few days, then change back. Almost everybody did for a few days. My real photo will be up for 2 days only!
This avatar photo is really me!
by Grace2Daisy
Thu Jul 27, 2017 1:29 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Venting
Replies: 25
Views: 8565

Re: Venting

Linked, I would venture to guess a lot of us have walked, or continue to walk, a very similar path. For me my wife said she valued our marriage over the church, then eventually fully bought into walking away. Our problem is that half of our kids remain TBMs, one is a bishop. Between them there are 1...
by Grace2Daisy
Wed Jul 19, 2017 7:58 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: I lost my son
Replies: 74
Views: 26143

Re: I lost my son

Nothing I can say will help. . . . just sending good thoughts your way. I'm very, very sad for you.
by Grace2Daisy
Sun Jul 16, 2017 7:32 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Building a Temple in Haiti - really?
Replies: 7
Views: 4200

Re: Building a Temple in Haiti - really?

Here are proven ways to help break the cycle of poverty. One will note, none include building large expensive religious buildings. 1) Quality education provides children with the knowledge and life skills they need to realize their full potential, and is essential to creating change in a child’s lif...
by Grace2Daisy
Sat Jul 15, 2017 5:15 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Building a Temple in Haiti - really?
Replies: 7
Views: 4200

Building a Temple in Haiti - really?

My frustration as to the church spending its money on temples hit the wall when I read this article in the Salt Lake Tribune. Honestly, what are they thinking. I posted this on Reddit's r/exmormon: Haiti is one of the poorest nations in the Western Hemisphere, with a national poverty rate of 58.6%, ...
by Grace2Daisy
Thu Jul 13, 2017 4:08 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: NOM Conference call? Group therapy?
Replies: 30
Views: 11846

Re: NOM Conference call?

KWAP! KWAP! KWAP! (as my youngest granddaughter says)

I will be at a dinner with my DW and new non-member friends. I'll give you all a toast, and look forward to the next time!
by Grace2Daisy
Thu Jul 13, 2017 4:02 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: How do you know if your wife is having an affair?
Replies: 16
Views: 7416

Re: How do you know if your wife is having an affair?

Ah. . . always a good reminder of Jimmy Dugan in A League of Their Own!
Lord, I'd just like to thank You for that waitress in South Bend. You know who she is - she kept calling Your name.
by Grace2Daisy
Thu Jul 13, 2017 3:58 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Membership in Japan
Replies: 12
Views: 9696

Re: Membership in Japan

I think membership numbers in Japan are pretty static, probably declining as people stop attending without bothering to resign. So why did the church build new temples in Fukuoka and Sapporo? Is it just to give the illusion that all is well in that part of the world? Was it to try to increase tithe...
by Grace2Daisy
Fri Jul 07, 2017 8:58 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Garment Changes
Replies: 40
Views: 26811

Re: Garment Changes

I have a friend who is basically a NOM, he returned from Afghanistan as a medic. We were talking about the fact the church and the military allows members to wear green garments under their combat fatigues. I asked him if he wore a pair during his tour and his reply has stuck with me: "I can testify...